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July 13, 2014, 02:43:58 PM |
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Bitmixer has not much to do with hack, they have just provided the service for hacker.
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The Avenger
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July 13, 2014, 02:49:15 PM |
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Bitmixer has not much to do with hack, they have just provided the service for hacker.
People in the bitcoin community are so strange. bitmixer.io knowingly accepted $750,000 in stolen funds. They did not inform the police. That is a crime. |
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July 13, 2014, 02:52:10 PM |
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Bitmixer has not much to do with hack, they have just provided the service for hacker.
People in the bitcoin community are so strange. bitmixer.io knowingly accepted $750,000 in stolen funds. They did not inform the police. That is a crime. they just tumble magical internet maneys eat a dick |
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CIYAM
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July 13, 2014, 02:53:30 PM |
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bitmixer.io knowingly accepted $750,000 in stolen funds.
How do you know that they "knowingly accepted $750,000 in stolen funds" - do you have proof of this (and if so then maybe you should be reporting them to the police)? |
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The Avenger
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July 13, 2014, 03:03:25 PM |
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bitmixer.io knowingly accepted $750,000 in stolen funds.
How do you know that they "knowingly accepted $750,000 in stolen funds" - do you have proof of this (and if so then maybe you should be reporting them to the police)? I have no proof that klee lost 1170BTC in the first place, other than he said he did. So how could I take his case to the police? It's up to klee. Putting together what BurtW said in this thread- that all the coins have already been mixed. And bitmixer's admission in the old thread they had sent the hacker new coins. It's all there, proof who is now in possession of the stolen coins, purchased from the hacker. I'm impressed by how many flock to the defence of criminals and criminal acts. |
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jc01480
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July 13, 2014, 03:09:44 PM |
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Dumb kid. Very dumb.
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CIYAM
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July 13, 2014, 03:10:20 PM |
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I'm impressed by how many flock to the defence of criminals and criminal acts.
I am certainly not trying to defend any criminals or criminal acts. I just think people need to think carefully about all the issues here and not start to form "lynch mobs" or the like. (btw - best to ignore some of the more silly posts being made here and elsewhere - this is bitcointalk and the trolls love it) |
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The Avenger
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July 13, 2014, 03:22:36 PM |
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If I stole $750k of gold and sold it to someone, would I be guilty of a crime? Yes.
Would the person who bought that gold be guilty of a crime (recieiving stolen goods)? Yes.
How would "I didn't know it was stolen" stand up as a defence in the real world?
Someone gave you $750k in return for $746k and that was not suspicious? Come on!
Keep looking for the hacker for sure.
But some of the people who provide "services" on this forum need to step back and say to themselves "Would this be a crime in the 'real world', i.e. offline? What if it were fiat or precious metals?"
If it is still a crime, then you should not be providing that service in the bitcoin world, even if people here seem to go along with it.
Because the people that will be called on to prosecute you will be using laws from the 'real world'.
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WootKung
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July 13, 2014, 03:22:42 PM |
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I'm impressed by how many flock to the defence of criminals and criminal acts.
I am certainly not trying to defend any criminals or criminal acts. I just think people need to think carefully about all the issues here and not start to form "lynch mobs" or the like. (btw - best to ignore some of the more silly posts being made here and elsewhere - this is bitcointalk and the trolls love it) what the fuck did you just say to me, you little bitch? |
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CIYAM
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July 13, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
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what the fuck did you just say to me, you little bitch?
Good try troll (well actually not even a good try - you just resort to name calling straight away?). A more clever troll would have come up with something a bit more creative and bit less aggressive. |
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klee
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July 13, 2014, 03:40:06 PM |
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inb4 hacker don't give bak lol
not really a laughing matter.  but it sounds like he signed a message from the address (or a linked address, if it moved). and made offers/demands. i doubt someone would go to those lengths otherwise. sounds like he wants to take a hit on the total loot in order to cut off any investigation. seems wise enough. So far the hacker has return 4.62 BTC (not 462BTC) to the specified address. Looks like klee was scammed twice. This is a previous transaction I made myself. I deliberately chose this address for the hacker too. |
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July 13, 2014, 03:42:46 PM |
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Klee, any explanation on why 36 days if the btc has been already laundered and are in hacker's hands?
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klee
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July 13, 2014, 03:44:51 PM |
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Klee, any explanation on why 36 days if the btc has been already laundered and are in hacker's hands?
I don't know if they are laundered or not! |
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klee
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July 13, 2014, 03:50:41 PM |
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How do we know it was the whole amount? |
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July 13, 2014, 03:56:40 PM |
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How do we know it was the whole amount? I am not sure someone could mix that easily a big amount like that. Probably he would need smaller chunks. |
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July 13, 2014, 04:38:15 PM |
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The BTC has already been through a mixer (as was noted by the mixer service in Klee's topic) and supposedly all records that could have traced the mixing have already been deleted (so there is no way that they can trace the hacker without at least losing their credibility as a mixing service).
I do think that the stuff about having 36 days to return the 462 BTC amount doesn't look very legit (i.e. the hacker gains 1 month to "disappear to another country").
I would speculate that it would give him time to further mix the coins and let enough time for the logs on the mixing services to be deleted. If Klee was still looking for the thief then the mixing services may wish to retain the logs and give them to klee so the thief's identity could be discovered. If klee is openly saying that he has no further claim against the thief then the mixing services would have no reason to retain logs |
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CIYAM
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July 13, 2014, 04:41:06 PM |
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Klee is in a rather bad situation - of course he'd rather get 40% of his BTC back than none.
The mixing service needs to make their own decision about what they do and of course authorities may be interested in that.
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klee
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July 13, 2014, 04:41:28 PM
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July 13, 2014, 05:03:17 PM |
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Yeah i just saw this when there was 2 confirmations , good at least your recovering a part of your loses. |
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