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March 16, 2012, 09:33:50 PM
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Hello,

I was watching the video with the new voice-over for MtGox's checkout solution and a question popped into my mind: How accessible is this information? In order words, how hard is it for merchants potentially interested in using Bitcoin to learn about the various options they have?

So I first looked at weusecoins.com where I found it lists:

https://bit-pay.com/ which is good and
https://bitspend.eu/ https://walletbit.com/ http://www.bitwillet.com/ which I have no idea about who or what these are and..
..there's also a link to http://btcinch.com/ which goes to a hosting default page and it also links to a wiki page but actually just links back to the merchant page on weusecoins.com.

I think this is a problem!

Next I looked at the official bitcoin.org and the Bitcoin wiki page and there it's even worse. Although the frontpage bitcoin.org has a link to the "Merchant Howto" wiki page, the main wiki page has no link that would lead directly to merchant solutions. Also once you do go into "Businesses (Trade)" it's only at the very bottom of the page of all the businesses accepting Bitcoin under "See Also" where one can find the link to "ECommerce" https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:ECommerce and it's only on this page where there's a "Merchant Howto" link to here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Merchant_Howto

I believe this is also a problem.

If I'm a merchant and I already have some sort of an online solution incorporated into my business I would probably get really frustrated and disheartened really fast if not only I needed to do a lot of reading on Bitcoin but also had trouble getting easily accessible and easy to learn how to use information about merchant solutions.


So I would like to suggest:

weusecoins.com please look into updating the "Bitcoin for Merchants" page and whoever is in charge of the wiki page please add a link to merchant solutions on the main wiki page and also update the information on the relevant sub pages.

At the very least I'd like to start a discussion about this topic of information availability with regards to merchant solutions in the hopes to find ideas of how to make it as easily accessible and as easy to learn how to use as possible so potential adopter don't get discouraged unnecessarily.

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March 17, 2012, 01:47:43 AM
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Same with https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7269.0

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March 17, 2012, 01:53:47 AM
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I'll replace that whenever someone directs my attention to a better version.

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March 17, 2012, 11:37:15 AM
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From http://bitcoinmedia.com/juice-rap-news-joins-bitcoins-struggle/ :

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Apologies for having taken so damn long to join the Bitcoin community; had we realized just how incredibly easy it was, we would’ve done so a lot sooner.

Kind of supports my suspicions doesn't it?

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March 17, 2012, 11:49:44 AM
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And in half the time it took you to write this post you could've fixed the wiki Wink

And maybe email the owner of weusecoins, who is the only person that can edit that website.

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March 17, 2012, 11:59:28 AM
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That is true, I could have, but that wasn't the point really. I was hoping we could start talking about the accessibility of this kind of information for someone just learning about Bitcoin and figure out ways to make it more easily accessible and easy to learn about.

I other words I was trying to raise awareness that there is such an issue.

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March 17, 2012, 12:22:46 PM
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Yup, raise awareness and do nothing about it is the way to go...

We all see how well that worked/works on Africas' problems. lol <--- Case in point: For the last 25 years I've been aware of them, yet they have the same problems today they had 25 years ago, some of them got even worse despite so many campaigns to raise awareness.

But I digress. You are right after all. I was just venting. It's nothing personal, so, please don't take it as such.

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March 17, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
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Yup, raise awareness and do nothing about it is the way to go...

We all see how well that worked/works on Africas' problems. lol <--- Case in point: For the last 25 years I've been aware of them, yet they have the same problems today they had 25 years ago, some of them got even worse despite so many campaigns to raise awareness.

But I digress. You are right after all. I was just venting. It's nothing personal, so, please don't take it as such.

The Africa point is moot. People are aware of it but are going about it the wrong way. African culture has degenerated to the point to where work is considered to be only fit for women while men live on permanent aid.

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