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July 13, 2014, 08:30:27 AM
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Even in the event that an attacker gains more than 50% of the network's
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JorgeStolfi
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July 13, 2014, 08:58:16 AM |
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Following the Scammer's Manual to the letter: "Once the victim begins to doubt that he will ever get his money back, offer to return part of it; he will be so happy that he will let you walk away free with the rest." |
Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success.
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klee (OP)
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July 13, 2014, 08:59:25 AM |
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Following the Scammer's Manual to the letter: "Once the victim begins to doubt that he will ever get his money back, offer to return part of it; he will be so happy that he will let you walk away free with the rest." That was my intention with the 500btc bounty - I am quite sure I would never see them back, at least not before 3 years.. |
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theonewhowaskazu
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July 13, 2014, 09:05:41 AM |
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Following the Scammer's Manual to the letter: "Once the victim begins to doubt that he will ever get his money back, offer to return part of it; he will be so happy that he will let you walk away free with the rest." In this case, what's the incentive to return any at all? Its virtually inconceivable that they could get the bitcoin back without the hacker's cooperation, or even track it to an IP, let alone an individual. |
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JorgeStolfi
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July 13, 2014, 09:24:29 AM |
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Following the Scammer's Manual to the letter: "Once the victim begins to doubt that he will ever get his money back, offer to return part of it; he will be so happy that he will let you walk away free with the rest." That was my intention with the 500btc bounty - I am quite sure I would never see them back, at least not before 3 years.. Well then, if you are glad that you lost 700 BTC, I am glad for you too.  And there goes another successful bitcoin entrepreneur, who has found a way to earn hundreds of BTC from a single "customer", with little work and without any legal risk. May his career be long and prosper.  |
Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success.
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JorgeStolfi
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July 13, 2014, 09:40:17 AM |
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Following the Scammer's Manual to the letter: "Once the victim begins to doubt that he will ever get his money back, offer to return part of it; he will be so happy that he will let you walk away free with the rest."
In this case, what's the incentive to return any at all? Its virtually inconceivable that they could get the bitcoin back without the hacker's cooperation, or even track it to an IP, let alone an individual. Just psychology. A bitcoin thief runs a non-negligible risk of being caught by a bounty-hunting hacker, or denounced by a friend. But if the victim gets part of loot back, he will cancel the bounty and almost always give up on the chase. At this point, for example, if the MtGOX victims were to get 20% of their coins back, they would probably "turn the page" on the incident and stop harassing Mark and his partners. |
Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success.
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SirChiko
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July 13, 2014, 11:31:42 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. |
The only online casino on which i won something. I made 17mBTC from 1mBTC in like 15 minutes. This is not paid AD!
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klee (OP)
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July 13, 2014, 11:32:39 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? 462 EDIT: That is what I am supposed to get anyway - today sometime first 231 and after 36 days the other half.. |
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johnwest
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July 13, 2014, 11:35:35 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? 462 EDIT: That is what I am supposed to get anyway - today sometime first 231 and after 36 days the other half.. But something is better then nothing, he lost all and now getting back portion. |
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klee (OP)
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July 13, 2014, 11:36:31 AM
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer (?) etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... |
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SirChiko
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July 13, 2014, 11:39:02 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. |
The only online casino on which i won something. I made 17mBTC from 1mBTC in like 15 minutes. This is not paid AD!
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klee (OP)
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July 13, 2014, 11:46:21 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. He has enough BTC to stalk me many years... It was counterproductive for both to escalate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNqFABM6M2A |
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ShroomsKit
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July 13, 2014, 11:47:21 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. I didn't follow the story. How did he get access to your mail and computer? |
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klee (OP)
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July 13, 2014, 11:49:45 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. I didn't follow the story. How did he get access to your mail and computer? Not sure - maybe from a dropbox plain txt file I had all my pwds in.. |
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July 13, 2014, 11:54:43 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. I didn't follow the story. How did he get access to your mail and computer? Not sure - maybe from a dropbox plain txt file I had all my pwds in.. Really bad, dropbox not safe for keeping password at all. |
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klee (OP)
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July 13, 2014, 11:57:01 AM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. I didn't follow the story. How did he get access to your mail and computer? Not sure - maybe from a dropbox plain txt file I had all my pwds in.. Really bad, dropbox not safe for keeping password at all. I paid hundred thousand of dollars to learn this lesson... |
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July 13, 2014, 12:05:47 PM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. I didn't follow the story. How did he get access to your mail and computer? Not sure - maybe from a dropbox plain txt file I had all my pwds in.. Really bad, dropbox not safe for keeping password at all. I paid hundred thousand of dollars to learn this lesson... are all the coins yours or a part of some kind of an escrow or holdings for a community ? |
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ShroomsKit
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July 13, 2014, 12:06:47 PM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. I didn't follow the story. How did he get access to your mail and computer? Not sure - maybe from a dropbox plain txt file I had all my pwds in.. Err ok. But that doesn't explain how he had access to your computer. |
Its price is not a very relevant factor in its adoption....
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klee (OP)
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July 13, 2014, 12:08:57 PM |
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bitstamp keeps pushing, but no one is following.
Europeans are in trouble for sure but I hope this is not a new MtGox too.. How many coins did you recover? glad to hear you got some coins back klee. i hope you get the rest too. what do you mean europeans are in trouble? because of the portagul bank in the crapper? Look into his thread it was 4xx but if i'd be on your place klee i'd request 600 atleast as he is clearly worried about his life and future.. Just accept the money and then claim more afterwards. It's not like you need to keep the moral high ground when negotiating with a thief. He is probably following klee's posts and he is probably member of btctalk so i'm not sure if posting this is good idea, but otherwise yep it's true. I didn't post it in Klee's topic for this very reason. Guys he had access to my emails, computer etc, not only my coins! Everyone can find my real ID very easily and I have a family... Well, but it would be threatening and police would maybe help you but yeah it's really better to get atleast this summ of money than nothing...congratulations. I didn't follow the story. How did he get access to your mail and computer? Not sure - maybe from a dropbox plain txt file I had all my pwds in.. Err ok. But that doesn't explain how he had access to your computer. Ah yes, my bad - I should not have said about the computer, I had no indications that he has access. But he did have to my main email (gmail)... |
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July 13, 2014, 03:21:16 PM |
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What is your timeline for returning Nxt community funds?
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