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March 17, 2012, 09:28:02 PM
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which one could double first ?

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March 17, 2012, 10:02:04 PM
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which one could double first ?



Bitcoin will double first, but both will double.
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March 17, 2012, 10:04:24 PM
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You should make this a poll.

Also, yeah. Bitcoin for sure. As gold prices fall, silver will rise. But as the dollar (and the Euro, and any other fiat) falls, bitcoin will skyrocket.

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March 17, 2012, 11:09:42 PM
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As gold prices fall, silver will rise.

..first time ever I hear this hypothesis.
Most folks say that silver leads, gold follows. silver is more volatile with larger swings, but they shall both go the same direction.

However, historically, silver seems to be highly underrated, compared to gold.
However, bitcoin seems to be highly highly underrated compared to fiat ;-)

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March 17, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
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As gold prices fall, silver will rise.

..first time ever I hear this hypothesis.
Most folks say that silver leads, gold follows. silver is more volatile with larger swings, but they shall both go the same direction.

However, historically, silver seems to be highly underrated, compared to gold.
However, bitcoin seems to be highly highly underrated compared to fiat ;-)

Ente

I think that right now, historical data doesn't count for much. People are beginning to completely distrust fiat altogether, so they're turning to metals. I think that gold has reached its peak (for now, until fiat collapses completely), and so people looking to retain their wealth are going to turn to silver.

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March 17, 2012, 11:29:54 PM
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US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.
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March 17, 2012, 11:33:00 PM
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US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

agree

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March 17, 2012, 11:43:01 PM
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US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/pimco-bill-gross-qe3-inflation-muted-growth-way-115229488.html

Bonds are done.

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March 18, 2012, 12:02:27 AM
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US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/pimco-bill-gross-qe3-inflation-muted-growth-way-115229488.html

Bonds are done.

Bill Gross got his ass handed to him during the debt debate last fall when US yields collapsed. Just because he has an opinion doesn't mean it is correct.

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March 18, 2012, 12:13:35 AM
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US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/pimco-bill-gross-qe3-inflation-muted-growth-way-115229488.html

Bonds are done.

 Just because he has an opinion doesn't mean it is correct.

To be fair, that applies to all of us. We'll just have to see what happens.

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March 18, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
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which one could double first ?


Either could of course.  The phrasing seems somewhat none-sense to me.

I'll say the odds are on Bitcoin doubling (measured in USD) first mostly because it's much more volatile and a doubling is much more within it's recent range.  Of course Bitcoin could very easily be cut in half just as fast, and while possible, I don't see it happening for silver (but we can hope since I would be delighted at another buying opportunity.)

A more interesting question is: 'Which one has the potential to increase in constant dollar value by orders of magnitude?'  The answer here would be Bitcoin, and that's a fair part of the reason why I'm sticking around.


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March 19, 2012, 08:01:40 PM
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which one could double first ?


Either could of course.  The phrasing seems somewhat none-sense to me.

I'll say the odds are on Bitcoin doubling (measured in USD) first mostly because it's much more volatile and a doubling is much more within it's recent range.  Of course Bitcoin could very easily be cut in half just as fast, and while possible, I don't see it happening for silver (but we can hope since I would be delighted at another buying opportunity.)

A more interesting question is: 'Which one has the potential to increase in constant dollar value by orders of magnitude?'  The answer here would be Bitcoin, and that's a fair part of the reason why I'm sticking around.



Ditto.
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March 19, 2012, 11:31:23 PM
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But as the dollar (and the Euro, and any other fiat) falls, bitcoin will skyrocket

Fall against what?

Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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March 20, 2012, 12:28:46 AM
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Against value itself.

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April 07, 2012, 12:36:23 AM
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Ounces of silver that one BTC will buy (Dec 1, 2011 through March 31, 2012):




Ounces of gold that one BTC will buy (Dec 1, 2011 through March 31, 2012):




Barrels of oil that one BTC will buy (Dec 1, 2011 through March 31, 2012):




The spreadsheet with the underlying data:
 - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHJuUE1mUkFxa3A0eHBDQkxZLVVFZmc

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