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July 15, 2014, 10:02:54 AM Last edit: July 15, 2014, 02:36:37 PM by riso2015 |
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So I'm a micronationalist for those of you who don't know what a micronation is there is a great wikipedia article about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronationhttp://navismaris.webs.com/ its important to note that the "theme" of the micronation is no longer pirates. After the old "Governor" decided to step down from his position we voted to change how we represented ourselves, as many of us felt we needed a change. We will have the entire site updated by the end of August! My micronation currently has seven citizens and our economy is based off of bitcoin and dogecoin. (Our national treasuery deals in bitcoins while our citizens use dogecoin. We hope to have everyone using bitcoin by the end of the year) I want to hear what you guys think about us using bitcoin as our national currency and would be willing to answer any serious questions you may have about my nation!
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interesting, all power to you
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July 15, 2014, 10:26:31 AM |
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interesting, all power to you
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July 15, 2014, 12:03:52 PM |
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Wonder want kind of money are you moving if you own a micronation. Next step is bribing the Pope and converting the Vatican in the Bitcoincan.
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July 15, 2014, 12:12:13 PM |
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I want to hear what you guys think about us using bitcoin as our national currency and would be willing to answer any serious questions you may have about my nation!
This sounds amazing! I have a few questions about your nation, though not related to bitcoin. 1. Is your nation recognized by any other nations or maybe the UN? 2. Where in the world is it located? 3. How does one become a citizen of your nation? 4. Do you have dual citizenships?
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July 15, 2014, 02:09:06 PM |
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I want to hear what you guys think about us using bitcoin as our national currency and would be willing to answer any serious questions you may have about my nation!
This sounds amazing! I have a few questions about your nation, though not related to bitcoin. 1. Is your nation recognized by any other nations or maybe the UN? 2. Where in the world is it located? 3. How does one become a citizen of your nation? 4. Do you have dual citizenships? We are not recognized by the UN however we are recognized by Mollosia, The New Aerican Empire and, New Scottland. We are located in northern New Jersey You have to apply for citizenship and take a test, though we do offer honorary citizenship to those who are not currently members of our nation but provide Aid to us. All members of Navismaris are technically dual citizens. Thanks for your questions! If you have any others be sure to ask!
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July 15, 2014, 02:15:23 PM |
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I wonder why you didnt tell the name from the beginning. http://navismaris.webs.com/
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July 15, 2014, 02:34:14 PM |
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I forgot to put our website in the original post! I fixed it thanks for the reminder!
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I will join your nation if you can successfully conduct a political coup in Sparta, NJ, then take a page from The Conch Republic playbook http://www.conchrepublic.com/republic_position.htmsecede, declare war, surrender, then demand foreign aid from the US. Your motto can be, "Tonight we dine in Sussex County!"
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I will join your nation if you can successfully conduct a political coup in Sparta, NJ, then take a page from The Conch Republic playbook http://www.conchrepublic.com/republic_position.htmsecede, declare war, surrender, then demand foreign aid from the US. Your motto can be, "Tonight we dine in Sussex County!" Ha ha! I doubt very seriously that they would even notice us if we did that. We are a micronation and we would like to stay that way, the gray area that we lay in is pretty comfortable for our current size. Thanks for the suggestion though!
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i hope people realise that this is not about the real world/land nation.. but someone website being the nation.. trust me the USA wont just hand part of new jersey to 7 people and let them form an actual country that is outside the jurisdictions of U.S law.
they are only recognized by another internet nation aerica (which itself is not a piece of land outside government jurisdiction) it is another imaginary empire based on starfleet (star trek federation of planets).
one thing that is missing in navsmaris and aerica, is an actual land base governed by the micronation and no other government. after all starfleets base is san fransisco and they own and govern the land(well inside the tc show it dos, but not in reality.. but even so its not just about membership its about government and rules).
so this micronation thing is not based on making real world change of real world governments. its simply web based memberships. where people still need to follow the laws of the land,no matter if they are a member of this web based nation.
im smelling a 'finshaggy' uptopia here... this is no different then the bitcoin foundation where there are members and ofcourse membership fee's but the individuals still have to obide by the laws of their countries government. which means the foundation / micronation, has no governing powers in the real material world that we walk every day.
in short its world of war craft. when a member you have to follow th game rules but that does not affect any laws of the real world. its just inside the computer world
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i hope people realise that this is not about the real world/land nation.. but someone website being the nation.. trust me the USA wont just hand part of new jersey to 7 people and let them form an actual country that is outside the jurisdictions of U.S law.
they are only recognized by another internet nation aerica (which itself is not a piece of land outside government jurisdiction) it is another imaginary empire based on starfleet (star trek federation of planets).
one thing that is missing in navsmaris and aerica, is an actual land base governed by the micronation and no other government. after all starfleets base is san fransisco and they own and govern the land(well inside the tc show it dos, but not in reality.. but even so its not just about membership its about government and rules).
so this micronation thing is not based on making real world change of real world governments. its simply web based memberships. where people still need to follow the laws of the land,no matter if they are a member of this web based nation.
im smelling a 'finshaggy' uptopia here... this is no different then the bitcoin foundation where there are members and ofcourse membership fee's but the individuals still have to obide by the laws of their countries government. which means the foundation / micronation, has no governing powers in the real material world that we walk every day.
in short its world of war craft. when a member you have to follow th game rules but that does not affect any laws of the real world. its just inside the computer world
This is sort of correct. If you read the wiki page that I posted (Which I'm sure you did) you would know that most micronations exist as either a webiste or as small unrecognized areas of land that are sovereign to larger countries. In our cause we lay claim to a small area of our lake. We do not have any membership fees however and we don't really charge our citizens for anything. As a matter of fact we pay them for being citizens. (Very small payments) All of our citizens are my close personal friends and family who originally joined the micronation when it was founded, by the original governor. We exist mostly outside of the computer world to be honest, operating as if we held true sovereignty while still respecting the laws of the United States of America. If you have any other questions I would be happy to answer them!
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This is sort of correct. If you read the wiki page that I posted (Which I'm sure you did) you would know that most micronations exist as either a webiste or as small unrecognized areas of land that are sovereign to larger countries. In our cause we lay claim to a small area of our lake.
We do not have any membership fees however and we don't really charge our citizens for anything. As a matter of fact we pay them for being citizens. (Very small payments) All of our citizens are my close personal friends and family who originally joined the micronation when it was founded, by the original governor.
We exist mostly outside of the computer world to be honest, operating as if we held true sovereignty while still respecting the laws of the United States of America.
If you have any other questions I would be happy to answer them!
1. if you are fully independent from government benefits (social security payments, social housing, etc) do you atleast try to stay away from forming contracts with governments 'acts' and only obey the laws. put simply do you avoid recognition of parking /speeding tickets and any court orders that are not concerning injury/loss by another human. 2. do you know the difference between legal and law 3. do you still pay state/government tax? and not have worries of government response
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This is sort of correct. If you read the wiki page that I posted (Which I'm sure you did) you would know that most micronations exist as either a webiste or as small unrecognized areas of land that are sovereign to larger countries. In our cause we lay claim to a small area of our lake.
We do not have any membership fees however and we don't really charge our citizens for anything. As a matter of fact we pay them for being citizens. (Very small payments) All of our citizens are my close personal friends and family who originally joined the micronation when it was founded, by the original governor.
We exist mostly outside of the computer world to be honest, operating as if we held true sovereignty while still respecting the laws of the United States of America.
If you have any other questions I would be happy to answer them!
1. if you are fully independent from government benefits (social security payments, social housing, etc) do you atleast try to stay away from forming contracts with governments 'acts' and only obey the laws. put simply do you avoid recognition of parking /speeding tickets and any court orders that are not concerning injury/loss by another human. 2. do you know the difference between legal and law 3. do you still pay state/government tax? and not have worries of government response We 100% recognize any 'acts' issued by the US Government. If a member of our nation is given any citation, ticket, or court order it is our recommendation that he obey it. At this point the US Government is leaving us alone and letting us manage our nation, and we wouldn't want to do anything to make them come down on us. I do think I know the difference between the two We still pay a tax on any goods purchased within the united states, and we each individually give foreign aid to the united states around April 15 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Like I said before we don't want to do anything to attract negative attention from the united states government.
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We 100% recognize any 'acts' issued by the US Government. If a member of our nation is given any citation, ticket, or court order it is our recommendation that he obey it. At this point the US Government is leaving us alone and letting us manage our nation, and we wouldn't want to do anything to make them come down on us. I do think I know the difference between the two We still pay a tax on any goods purchased within the united states, and we each individually give foreign aid to the united states around April 15 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Like I said before we don't want to do anything to attract negative attention from the united states government. then your not a nation. unlike the amish or native indians that do not have to worry about government acts and have the freedoms as such, you are nothing more then people playing a game. and not a proper nation.. lol sorry but your a laughing stock and just a dreamer. im sorry but its true. good luck in life but dont think by any means that you are a separate nation. you are purely a separate society..
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We 100% recognize any 'acts' issued by the US Government. If a member of our nation is given any citation, ticket, or court order it is our recommendation that he obey it. At this point the US Government is leaving us alone and letting us manage our nation, and we wouldn't want to do anything to make them come down on us. I do think I know the difference between the two We still pay a tax on any goods purchased within the united states, and we each individually give foreign aid to the united states around April 15 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Like I said before we don't want to do anything to attract negative attention from the united states government. then your not a nation. unlike the amish or native indians that do not have to worry about government acts and have the freedoms as such, you are nothing more then people playing a game. and not a proper nation.. lol sorry but your a laughing stock and just a dreamer. im sorry but its true. good luck in life but dont think by any means that you are a separate nation. you are purely a separate society.. You didn't seem to read the wiki page on what micronations are, otherwise you wouldn't have had to ask any questions to realize that micronations are mostly simulations and are typically done for fun. I appreciate your comments however! I don't want anyone to think that we are actually attempting to hold true Sov!
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We 100% recognize any 'acts' issued by the US Government. If a member of our nation is given any citation, ticket, or court order it is our recommendation that he obey it. At this point the US Government is leaving us alone and letting us manage our nation, and we wouldn't want to do anything to make them come down on us. I do think I know the difference between the two We still pay a tax on any goods purchased within the united states, and we each individually give foreign aid to the united states around April 15 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Like I said before we don't want to do anything to attract negative attention from the united states government. then your not a nation. unlike the amish or native indians that do not have to worry about government acts and have the freedoms as such, you are nothing more then people playing a game. and not a proper nation.. lol sorry but your a laughing stock and just a dreamer. im sorry but its true. good luck in life but dont think by any means that you are a separate nation. you are purely a separate society.. There is no need to be an asshole about it. Let him have his fun and dont be a douchebag.
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We 100% recognize any 'acts' issued by the US Government. If a member of our nation is given any citation, ticket, or court order it is our recommendation that he obey it. At this point the US Government is leaving us alone and letting us manage our nation, and we wouldn't want to do anything to make them come down on us. I do think I know the difference between the two We still pay a tax on any goods purchased within the united states, and we each individually give foreign aid to the united states around April 15 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Like I said before we don't want to do anything to attract negative attention from the united states government. then your not a nation. unlike the amish or native indians that do not have to worry about government acts and have the freedoms as such, you are nothing more then people playing a game. and not a proper nation.. lol sorry but your a laughing stock and just a dreamer. im sorry but its true. good luck in life but dont think by any means that you are a separate nation. you are purely a separate society.. There is no need to be an asshole about it. Let him have his fun and dont be a douchebag. Thanks! I just came here to talk a bit about a hobby a few my friends and I have. Figured that maybe some of the people on this forum would find the idea of a "National" currency being bitcoin kind of interesting.
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We 100% recognize any 'acts' issued by the US Government. If a member of our nation is given any citation, ticket, or court order it is our recommendation that he obey it. At this point the US Government is leaving us alone and letting us manage our nation, and we wouldn't want to do anything to make them come down on us. I do think I know the difference between the two We still pay a tax on any goods purchased within the united states, and we each individually give foreign aid to the united states around April 15 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Like I said before we don't want to do anything to attract negative attention from the united states government. then your not a nation. unlike the amish or native indians that do not have to worry about government acts and have the freedoms as such, you are nothing more then people playing a game. and not a proper nation.. lol sorry but your a laughing stock and just a dreamer. im sorry but its true. good luck in life but dont think by any means that you are a separate nation. you are purely a separate society.. There is no need to be an asshole about it. Let him have his fun and dont be a douchebag. Thanks! I just came here to talk a bit about a hobby a few my friends and I have. Figured that maybe some of the people on this forum would find the idea of a "National" currency being bitcoin kind of interesting. And it is pretty col and i've been doing some googling. But there are some people here act like they just got buttfucked and are shitty so dont listen to them.
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We 100% recognize any 'acts' issued by the US Government. If a member of our nation is given any citation, ticket, or court order it is our recommendation that he obey it. At this point the US Government is leaving us alone and letting us manage our nation, and we wouldn't want to do anything to make them come down on us. I do think I know the difference between the two We still pay a tax on any goods purchased within the united states, and we each individually give foreign aid to the united states around April 15 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Like I said before we don't want to do anything to attract negative attention from the united states government. then your not a nation. unlike the amish or native indians that do not have to worry about government acts and have the freedoms as such, you are nothing more then people playing a game. and not a proper nation.. lol sorry but your a laughing stock and just a dreamer. im sorry but its true. good luck in life but dont think by any means that you are a separate nation. you are purely a separate society.. There is no need to be an asshole about it. Let him have his fun and dont be a douchebag. I flavor a for-funsies nation over a douchy nation any day of the week. (I meant favor)
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