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July 18, 2014, 06:12:26 AM
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any site which is accepting BTC that we can buy solar products

 

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July 18, 2014, 06:29:26 AM
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SOLAR energy is long term investment this will return your money within 5 years and the warranty of solar panel is 25 years

Bullshit.

ROI is 10+ years.

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July 18, 2014, 06:31:28 AM
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SOLAR energy is long term investment this will return your money within 5 years and the warranty of solar panel is 25 years

Bullshit.

ROI is 10+ years.


its 5+ years if you use with care

 

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July 18, 2014, 07:02:25 AM
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SOLAR energy is long term investment this will return your money within 5 years and the warranty of solar panel is 25 years

Bullshit.

ROI is 10+ years.


its 5+ years if you use with care

Wrong. I've calculated ROI multiple times in multiple areas. The only way you can even get close to 5 years is without including any sort of land cost or extra equipment. 5 years if you ONLY calculate for solar cells and building panels yourself. Just the cells and panel materials. No extra kit that converts the 12 volt DC to 120 volt AC is included in that ROI.

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July 18, 2014, 09:59:46 AM
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More then 7 years unless you can get it dirt cheap..

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July 18, 2014, 10:29:52 AM
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You guys know the Solar Roadways concept right ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619852.0
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July 18, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
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I heard from news that there is a new and more efficient solar energy, hopefully it is cheaper also and it would bring the ROI close to 3 years if my calculation is right.

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July 18, 2014, 02:55:36 PM
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What about those people around here talking about those solar-streets? I guess that's nothing new, though... Those things also still need to be developed further. I mean, they'll have to endure great stress over a long time - something you can't just simulate in a lab. Also, they get dirty. Very dirty. There's a reason why streets are black  Cheesy
I've also heard of something like solar cell paint.  You can just apply the stuff to whatever you want to turn it into a solar collecting source: walls, roofs, etc.  If they could make that cheap and efficient, that would really be something.

Whoa, really? Got any sources? That's sick! Where do you harvest the actually collected energy? Just plug in the wires at some point of your painted area? Is this safe for people and the environment at all?

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July 19, 2014, 05:24:30 AM
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What about those people around here talking about those solar-streets? I guess that's nothing new, though... Those things also still need to be developed further. I mean, they'll have to endure great stress over a long time - something you can't just simulate in a lab. Also, they get dirty. Very dirty. There's a reason why streets are black  Cheesy
I've also heard of something like solar cell paint.  You can just apply the stuff to whatever you want to turn it into a solar collecting source: walls, roofs, etc.  If they could make that cheap and efficient, that would really be something.

Whoa, really? Got any sources? That's sick! Where do you harvest the actually collected energy? Just plug in the wires at some point of your painted area? Is this safe for people and the environment at all?
I'm not sure of all the details, but yes, I think you just attach a couple wires to key points.  I'm not sure of how toxic the chemicals would be.  I think the biggest obstacles have been efficiency and cost.  But they're working on it.  Just google something like "solar cell paint," and you'll get a whole bunch of articles.  For example:

http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/15/caution-wet-solar-power-new-affordable-solar-paint-research/
http://www.cnet.com/news/new-nanotech-quantum-dots-to-make-solar-cells-lighter-cheaper/
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July 19, 2014, 06:09:56 AM
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SOLAR ENERGY ?

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IMO solar energy can give a boost to the bitcoin mining - it's environmentally-friendly and quiet cheap.

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July 19, 2014, 07:20:24 AM
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If you are talking about solar panels on your roof or something, it's certainly cleaner than oil and may be price competitive depending on your electric rates.

It's not so great as a power source overall, as far as powering a nation. Panels need replacing, and creating the panels themselves create a lot of toxic materials.

Thorium plants longterm is likely a better choice.

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July 19, 2014, 01:12:18 PM
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SOLAR ENERGY ?

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free bitcoins (minus cost of equipment obviously)?

i am here.
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July 20, 2014, 07:15:37 AM
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SOLAR ENERGY ?

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free bitcoins (minus cost of equipment obviously)?

Well, yes, but the up-front equipment cost is huge.  Solar energy systems only pay off over many years of use.  One example I found with a quick Google search said $6-$8/watt installed, which led to a 10-year ROI for the system.  So you could install solar panels or buy an equivalent amount of electricity for a decade.  Do you think you'll be mining that long?
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July 20, 2014, 07:45:24 AM
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I am pretty SURE my electricity meter is connected to a Stratum 0 devices, and is nuclear powered ... how can we audit it ? I mean how to know my meter is really showing the proper measurement ?

I would be enlightened by the sun with a miner device 99.999 sun's nuclear fusion ( Our star, the Sun, makes up 99% of all the mass in the Solar System.) powered.


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July 21, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
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Solar energy shouldn't even be in the convo at the moment.  It is far to expensive up front and doesn't return your investment until way later of in the years.

I often see this posted on social media about how we need to convert roads to solar panels.  It is a great idea....however if we were to do that to just 1 state(larger state) the country would probably double in debt and its already hard to see us getting out of this whole(USA).  Think about redoing the world...
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July 21, 2014, 12:53:44 PM
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i'd love to install solar pads on my home, but for now, it's really not cost effective.

Tell me cost of hot water for 5 Years in Your Home  Grin Grin Grin

I have now 150 liter of water at 71 C° for free. And in Summer is normal 90-97 C°.

If I would try to do that I would have 150 litres of ice for most of time Grin

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July 21, 2014, 01:00:07 PM
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July 21, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
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Solar energy shouldn't even be in the convo at the moment.  It is far to expensive up front and doesn't return your investment until way later of in the years.

I often see this posted on social media about how we need to convert roads to solar panels.  It is a great idea....however if we were to do that to just 1 state(larger state) the country would probably double in debt and its already hard to see us getting out of this whole(USA).  Think about redoing the world...
Unfortunately, if we stick to "we can't afford this now," then it will never happen.  Solar energy is not the full answer anyway.  It's just one of a number of clean energy sources that needs to be developed.  Like many technologies, the more solar is used, the more incentive there is to research improved cells, which will further bring down the cost.  Additionally, it's very likely that fossil fuel energy sources will continue to increase in price.  Solar may be more expensive now, but further development will make it cheaper in the future.
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July 21, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
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what if gov rise charges on non-green energy ... what the impact would be ?

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July 21, 2014, 03:24:51 PM
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You know what? I once saw satellite picture of Sahara Desert. There were staged solar collectors on like 1/10 of that desert and descriptions: If you put solar collectors on part of Sahara Desert it will generate energy sufficient to power whole world. Now I am wonder why people does not do that?


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