Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces.

[247crypto]

Ukrainian government forces manoeuvre anti-aircraft missile launchers as they are transported northwest from Slavyansk, eastern Ukraine Friday.
Photograph by: Dmitry Lovetsky, The Associated Press , The Associated Press

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Ukraine%2Btruce%2Bprospects%2Bappear/10003759/story.html

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[BitcoinMillionaire]

Does the rebel also have this missile system?

[247crypto]

Does the rebel also have this missile system?

For launch are needed 16 prepared people.
Kiev forces says, that all BUK in hands of Donetsk republic is intentionally broken by Ukrainian military. And they declared too, that no systems with capacity to shoot on 10 km is in hands of Donetsk republic.

Пo инфopмaции yкpaинcкoгo вoeннoгo экcпepтa Aлeкceя Apecтoвичa, из чacти A-1402 былa вывeзeнa вcя тexникa, включaя "Бyки", oкoлo двyx мecяцeв нaзaд, и oпoлчeнцы cмoгли зaxвaтить тoлькo oднy пycкo-зapяжaющyю мaшинy (oнa лишь внeшнe пoxoжa нa ycтaнoвкy "Бyк"). Texникa пoлкa нaxoдитcя ближe к линии Cлaвянcк-Кpaмaтopcк, кoнтpoлиpyeмoй yкpaинcкими вoйcкaми, гoвopит Apecтoвич.

Читaть пoлнocтью: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/18/07/2014/937572.shtml
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/18/07/2014/937572.shtml

[Nemo1024]

Besides, Ukrainian Prosecutor General made a statement yesterday, saying that no Buks had fallen into freedom fighters' hands.

[Paya]

It's fine, but 247crypto... you do remember a week ago whan I asked how did the rebels manage to shoot down Ukrainian AN-26 at 6000+ meters? You've posted this same picture of Buk on truck, obviously implying that it was the rebels who were transporting it. Besides, you linked some pro-rebel site telling about the successful action of Donetsk specnaz unit in late June, when they captured Ukrainian AA unit equpped with complete Buk systems. Assuming that this sudden change in your storyline is true, may I ask - why have you been lying before?

[hologram]

It's fine, but 247crypto... you do remember a week ago whan I asked how did the rebels manage to shoot down Ukrainian AN-26 at 6000+ meters? You've posted this same picture of Buk on truck, obviously implying that it was the rebels who were transporting it. Besides, you linked some pro-rebel site telling about the successful action of Donetsk specnaz unit in late June, when they captured Ukrainian AA unit equpped with complete Buk systems. Assuming that this sudden change in your storyline is true, may I ask - why have you been lying before?

Stop talking dirty conspirator 

[bryant.coleman]

Does the rebel also have this missile system?

Even if the rebels have this system, they don't have the technical expertise to operate it. To operate this missile system, you need multiple launch codes, plus more than a dozen well trained personnel.

[hologram]

Even if the rebels have this system, they don't have the technical expertise to operate it. To operate this missile system, you need multiple launch codes, plus more than a dozen well trained personnel.

Don't some part of Russian speaking Ukrainian army became rebel ?

[247crypto]

This is a picture of the BUK that fired.
They transported it back to Russia.
I'm Dutch and I can only blame one P.

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.fr/2014/07/russian-transport-of-buk-that-shot-down.html

LOL winter clothes in summer... a fake




"ukrainian units"
http://censor.net.ua/v274823

[247crypto]

they captured Ukrainian AA

That is captured, but no one published the real number of present weapons there.

[247crypto]

First picture and transport is not fake.

I see no "Russian boarder" on video, totally no fonts about autor, and for working only missiles are not enough.

If they have so strong weapons, why Kiev use military aviation over Snezhnoe?
Why this zone is OK for civil jets and Crimea is not (for Kiev)?

[hologram]

In the past you glorified rebel attack on Kiev plane... Why they can't attack a civilian plane ?

[247crypto]

In the past you glorified rebel attack on Kiev plane... Why they can't attack a civilian plane ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_systems



PZRK Igla is unable to hit something over 5 km, jet was on 10 km.

And the place where jet must be hit by missile is deep on Kiev controlled territory.

Some fonts are talking about 2 air-air missiles.


And some day before AN-26 was hit on 6 km of altitude, in that moment Kiev declare, that Donetsk Republic have no such weapons to hit aircraft on 6 km of altitude.

[247crypto]

Declaration "We have no weapons for altitude over 3 KM" Dmitriy Gau

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulwIa_psdzI

[Paya]

*sigh*
Let's try again. Crypto, what happened with this Buk missile regiment rebels claimed they've captured in June? Did they lie then, or are they lying now?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Frusvesna.su%2Fnews%2F1404041521&edit-text=

[247crypto]

*sigh*
Let's try again. Crypto, what happened with this Buk missile regiment rebels claimed they've captured in June? Did they lie then, or are they lying now?

The best informed are Ukrainian military forces, that continue to use aviation in this area.

All pictures of BUK on "news" for sure are not from that data.

[247crypto]

You're terrible at this 247, gtfo

Watch Kurginyan on Youtube, that saying about intentionaly damaged BUK in Donetsk.
https://www.youtube.com/user/eotsuVideo/videos

[Paya]

Rebels say they have Buk. Rebels say they don't have Buk. Rebels say they *might* have Buk, but it's not working. Rotten corpses secretly loaded into MH17. Putin's presidential plane accidentaly mixed up with MH17. Strelkov and/or his men use FB/twitter. Strelkov and/or his men do not and haven't ever been using FB/twitter. Bullshit list goes on.

Look crypto, you know that lot of people here (including me) are not against people of Donbass and their legitimate wish for independence, but the way you are commenting this latest tragedy is, to say at least, confusing and somewhat crazy. If I were you, I'd take a break and get my shit together because right now you are making your case pretty bad.

[247crypto]

I wonder, why there is no CNN/FOX NEWS/Euronews?

If You will, i can give, the only one place, where Strelkov publish news and give some comment.

Is there in English something, that explain, how many time and how many KM need body to fall from 10 KM of altitude with 800 KM/H of speed?

[247crypto]

[Benjig]

This is a picture of the BUK that fired.
They transported it back to Russia.
I'm Dutch and I can only blame one P.

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.fr/2014/07/russian-transport-of-buk-that-shot-down.html

So this looks like the government shot down the plane, not rebels, at least this is the most likely scenario until someone confirms the opposite.

[BitcoinMillionaire]

Can you explained what the rebel use to down this plane? Can you explain more about this picture?

[247crypto]

Can you explained what the rebel use to down this plane? Can you explain more about this picture?

No idea about real altitude of that flight, and about who make this screenshot.
How they shoot this AN-26 is not reported, only "some number of anti aircraft systems": http://ria.ru/world/20140717/1016409306.html

[247crypto]

Here is about Ukrainians to accuse Russian Federation to shoot on AN-26 ... http://www.president.gov.ua/ru/news/30746.html


From where is this picture, and where is this BUK and in what conditions i have no idea too.

[247crypto]

New fake video of "smoking gun"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iujRSlZ-GTc

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[Benjig]

Can you explained what the rebel use to down this plane? Can you explain more about this picture?

So that hole in the plane seems to be made with an AA gun. maybe the plane was taken down by an anti air batery gun not a missile.

[247crypto]

No idea, if there is something like that for 6500 meter of altitude:

[Paya]

So that hole in the plane seems to be made with an AA gun. maybe the plane was taken down by an anti air batery gun not a missile.

Shrapnel holes. Frag-HE warhead leave such marks when missile detonates in the aircraft's proximity.