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July 19, 2014, 12:29:05 PM
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Ukrainian government forces manoeuvre anti-aircraft missile launchers as they are transported northwest from Slavyansk, eastern Ukraine Friday.
Photograph by: Dmitry Lovetsky, The Associated Press , The Associated Press

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Ukraine%2Btruce%2Bprospects%2Bappear/10003759/story.html

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July 19, 2014, 12:47:30 PM
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Does the rebel also have this missile system?

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July 19, 2014, 01:19:36 PM
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Does the rebel also have this missile system?

For launch are needed 16 prepared people.
Kiev forces says, that all BUK in hands of Donetsk republic is intentionally broken by Ukrainian military. And they declared too, that no systems with capacity to shoot on 10 km is in hands of Donetsk republic.
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Читaть пoлнocтью: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/18/07/2014/937572.shtml
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July 19, 2014, 01:28:39 PM
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Besides, Ukrainian Prosecutor General made a statement yesterday, saying that no Buks had fallen into freedom fighters' hands.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 19, 2014, 01:52:41 PM
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It's fine, but 247crypto... you do remember a week ago whan I asked how did the rebels manage to shoot down Ukrainian AN-26 at 6000+ meters? You've posted this same picture of Buk on truck, obviously implying that it was the rebels who were transporting it. Besides, you linked some pro-rebel site telling about the successful action of Donetsk specnaz unit in late June, when they captured Ukrainian AA unit equpped with complete Buk systems. Assuming that this sudden change in your storyline is true, may I ask - why have you been lying before?
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July 19, 2014, 01:56:40 PM
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It's fine, but 247crypto... you do remember a week ago whan I asked how did the rebels manage to shoot down Ukrainian AN-26 at 6000+ meters? You've posted this same picture of Buk on truck, obviously implying that it was the rebels who were transporting it. Besides, you linked some pro-rebel site telling about the successful action of Donetsk specnaz unit in late June, when they captured Ukrainian AA unit equpped with complete Buk systems. Assuming that this sudden change in your storyline is true, may I ask - why have you been lying before?

Stop talking dirty conspirator  Grin

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July 19, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
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Does the rebel also have this missile system?

Even if the rebels have this system, they don't have the technical expertise to operate it. To operate this missile system, you need multiple launch codes, plus more than a dozen well trained personnel.
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July 19, 2014, 03:01:14 PM
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Even if the rebels have this system, they don't have the technical expertise to operate it. To operate this missile system, you need multiple launch codes, plus more than a dozen well trained personnel.

Don't some part of Russian speaking Ukrainian army became rebel ?

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July 19, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
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This is a picture of the BUK that fired.
They transported it back to Russia.
I'm Dutch and I can only blame one P.

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.fr/2014/07/russian-transport-of-buk-that-shot-down.html


LOL winter clothes in summer... a fake




"ukrainian units"
http://censor.net.ua/v274823

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July 19, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
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they captured Ukrainian AA

That is captured, but no one published the real number of present weapons there.

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July 19, 2014, 04:42:29 PM
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First picture and transport is not fake.

I see no "Russian boarder" on video, totally no fonts about autor, and for working only missiles are not enough.

If they have so strong weapons, why Kiev use military aviation over Snezhnoe?
Why this zone is OK for civil jets and Crimea is not (for Kiev)?

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July 19, 2014, 04:46:52 PM
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In the past you glorified rebel attack on Kiev plane... Why they can't attack a civilian plane ?

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July 19, 2014, 04:56:40 PM
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In the past you glorified rebel attack on Kiev plane... Why they can't attack a civilian plane ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_systems



PZRK Igla is unable to hit something over 5 km, jet was on 10 km.

And the place where jet must be hit by missile is deep on Kiev controlled territory.

Some fonts are talking about 2 air-air missiles.


And some day before AN-26 was hit on 6 km of altitude, in that moment Kiev declare, that Donetsk Republic have no such weapons to hit aircraft on 6 km of altitude.


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July 19, 2014, 05:18:28 PM
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Declaration "We have no weapons for altitude over 3 KM" Dmitriy Gau

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulwIa_psdzI

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July 19, 2014, 05:28:23 PM
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*sigh*
Let's try again. Crypto, what happened with this Buk missile regiment rebels claimed they've captured in June? Did they lie then, or are they lying now?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Frusvesna.su%2Fnews%2F1404041521&edit-text=
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July 19, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
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*sigh*
Let's try again. Crypto, what happened with this Buk missile regiment rebels claimed they've captured in June? Did they lie then, or are they lying now?


The best informed are Ukrainian military forces, that continue to use aviation in this area.

All pictures of BUK on "news" for sure are not from that data.

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July 19, 2014, 06:36:15 PM
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You're terrible at this 247, gtfo
Watch Kurginyan on Youtube, that saying about intentionaly damaged BUK in Donetsk.
https://www.youtube.com/user/eotsuVideo/videos

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July 19, 2014, 07:20:15 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2014, 07:30:57 PM by Paya
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Rebels say they have Buk. Rebels say they don't have Buk. Rebels say they *might* have Buk, but it's not working. Rotten corpses secretly loaded into MH17. Putin's presidential plane accidentaly mixed up with MH17. Strelkov and/or his men use FB/twitter. Strelkov and/or his men do not and haven't ever been using FB/twitter. Bullshit list goes on.

Look crypto, you know that lot of people here (including me) are not against people of Donbass and their legitimate wish for independence, but the way you are commenting this latest tragedy is, to say at least, confusing and somewhat crazy. If I were you, I'd take a break and get my shit together because right now you are making your case pretty bad.
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July 19, 2014, 07:44:54 PM
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I wonder, why there is no CNN/FOX NEWS/Euronews?

If You will, i can give, the only one place, where Strelkov publish news and give some comment.

Is there in English something, that explain, how many time and how many KM need body to fall from 10 KM of altitude with 800 KM/H of speed?

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