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May 05, 2011, 07:21:38 PM |
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Open source software, is for paranoid users. Any skilled programmer, can write their own program exactly like any existing program without the need to use templates from an available open source program. If a developer wanted to do better with a program, they would restart from scratch, instead of learn a different programmers perspective on the same problems. It's way too pointless, and everyone that supports open source is completely paranoid and weird beyond that fact.
Open source builds community. I'm getting more and more motivated to spend a good deal of time putting together a decent alternative given your relentless elitism. For open source I just cannot see a REAL use for it to pay off the time you spend on it. Making a closed source program FREE, already has it's own ups and downs, but open source is just like feeding kids different templates to mooch off of. Now i'm not being selfish, because I AM entitled to my own work, I don't mind sharing it. I would gladly make anything I write open source if I wasn't so bent on proving that there's no real change for the end-user, rather only other developers would make use of the fact that it's open source.
People also care about the culture that their time and money goes. Social stocks and fair trade blow away your argument. But that's where things are different. I'm not making programs for programmers. I'm making programs for users. Users, that don't want to bother with code, with complicated tasks, with monotonous details. Users, that don't care whether or not it's open source, they base their choice of software on quality. Not how it is open source. It's just not practical in the real world. Paranoia also is nothing but a mental block. It ends nowhere. Just like open source.
Who the hell are you to divide people into categories of programmer and user? Give users documentation and get out of the way of programmers. Open source created the Internet. Open source is about create it again. |
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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qberty (OP)
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May 06, 2011, 12:18:15 AM |
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You definitely misunderstood the purpose of my opinion.
Whatever, it's clear all of you are stuck on this open world idea because your scared. Quite frankly I don't care what your reason is for me to make it open source. I don't agree, and I won't do it.
It's not going to happen. So either leave this thread while keeping your sanity intact or stay here and keep ranting about open source and it's benefits to someone that refuses to listen. Keep my software closed source has worked for me in the past, and it shall in the future.
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May 06, 2011, 01:06:30 AM |
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For open source I just cannot see a REAL use for it to pay off the time you spend on it. Making a closed source program FREE, already has it's own ups and downs, but open source is just like feeding kids different templates to mooch off of. Now i'm not being selfish, because I AM entitled to my own work, I don't mind sharing it. I would gladly make anything I write open source if I wasn't so bent on proving that there's no real change for the end-user, rather only other developers would make use of the fact that it's open source.
First, I don't care what you do. I'm not using this and I have no interest in using it, nor developing it. That said, "feeding kids different templates to mooch off of" or "sharing" is the only way we can ever progress technologically. Every major new innovation is built on the shoulders of giants. And small innovations are built on smaller tools, like the one you have written. I understand that at times the "open world idea" can be a product of fear. But don't fall for the fallacy that open source is not pragmatically useful simply because it is attractive to certain types of ideologues. It sounds as if your fear is that "other developers would make use of the fact that it's open source." So you're afraid someone will make it better and you will lose control of the project? Therefore, you want to keep it closed so you can possibly sell it in the future? If that's the case, just admit it's greed and they'll shut up. And one day, they will make peace with the existence of greed in and around them. A friend once told me "there's a time and a place for everything." Do what you want with your software, but don't bash open source. It only feeds the fire precisely because some many people do find it tremendously useful. |
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May 06, 2011, 01:45:43 AM |
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You definitely misunderstood the purpose of my opinion.
This obtuse sentence has to be an accident. Whatever, it's clear all of you are stuck on this open world idea because your scared.
Eh, no. You're the one stuck on it. Quite frankly I don't care what your reason is for me to make it open source. I don't agree, and I won't do it.
He's got a booboo. Troll much? Keep my software closed source has worked for me in the past, and it shall in the future.
Worked in what way? It ran faster? It never called your mother? You are experiencing a contextual clusterfuck. What does open source prevent? |
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qberty (OP)
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May 08, 2011, 06:21:31 PM |
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Closed source makes money. Doesn't intrigue corruption, and it's more profitable in many other ways.
I'm stuck on this bullshit because noone on this board would leave my thread alone about open source. I could careless about it.
Infact, i've gotten more downloads of this program in particular from users other than this forum board. So it that's a small display margin for how corrupting you fools are. You strive to complain and defend your own opinions when i'm not even here to listen to it. I'm here to provide a program to the people who use it. If none of you realized by now, atleast 10 people downloaded it from this board. Aside from the pricks who are arguing, some people on this board didn't care that it was open source. And 10 downloads can provide enough feedback for something as small as this. So closed source IS working for me. If you want to do it open sourced, then by all means. But don't try to infuse your opinion into mine by invalidating my own experience.
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May 09, 2011, 11:09:49 PM |
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Closed source makes money.
So does open source. Why money when you could have bitcoins? Doesn't intrigue corruption,
This is vague and paranoid. You clearly don't know how computers work. Nobody can force their code on you. and it's more profitable in many other ways.
You don't read the news much. I'm stuck on this bullshit because noone on this board would leave my thread alone about open source. I could careless about it.
Infact, i've gotten more downloads of this program in particular from users other than this forum board. So it that's a small display margin for how corrupting you fools are. You strive to complain and defend your own opinions when i'm not even here to listen to it. I'm here to provide a program to the people who use it. If none of you realized by now, atleast 10 people downloaded it from this board. Aside from the pricks who are arguing, some people on this board didn't care that it was open source. And 10 downloads can provide enough feedback for something as small as this. So closed source IS working for me. If you want to do it open sourced, then by all means. But don't try to infuse your opinion into mine by invalidating my own experience.
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qberty (OP)
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May 12, 2011, 04:24:55 AM |
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Updated the download link. Some people couldn't download the first version.
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May 12, 2011, 04:37:18 AM |
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welcome to the bitcoin community qberty. the place is populated by paranoid anarchists so here you're presumed guilty until proven innocent.
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warweed
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May 12, 2011, 04:37:45 AM |
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If you guys are sooooooooo worried set your payout threshold higher and send the btc to a mybitcoin.com address and monitor your network traffic for anything suspicious on top of that monitor system file changes to see if there are keylogging like software ect and if your super paranoid just send to another instance of bitcoin disconnect that machine from the tubes and test quit being paranoid lol gawd
You blindly download closed source software daily Most of you
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warweed
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May 12, 2011, 04:53:38 AM |
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And slush / tycho all due respect all of us were new at sometime and even senior members can be shady
But would you open source your pools ? No I
Sure you wouldn't why because if you did A people could find bugs and exploit costing you money everyone would have there own pools and ultimatly all your hardwork would be worthless
What if the op wants after testing and proven working to charge a small fee for his work ... He couldn't could he because it would be open source
I understand concerns but as tycho suggested there isn't much can be done with the API itself the concern would be more key logger based or possibly round robinging the miners to his own private pool Thou even if that were the case it sure wouldn't be very long before it was discovered
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May 12, 2011, 07:06:19 AM |
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But would you open source your pools ?
There is a huge difference - closed source pool cannot access your computer. As you're sending every small bit of earned bitcoins to your wallet from the pool, there is no chance how I can steal your coins. Usually I'm not paranoid (I'm using Windows, Skype etc), but realistic, because there was malicious software stealing wallets before some time already. |
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May 12, 2011, 09:56:12 PM |
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And slush / tycho all due respect all of us were new at sometime and even senior members can be shady
I would go GNU because my value is community and it eats opportunity like nothing else. Now watch this drive. |
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qberty (OP)
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May 12, 2011, 10:19:26 PM |
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lol.
I'm designing the worlds first bitcoin powered poker system. Let's hope noone beats me to it. And I'm going to seriously laugh at who ever says to open source THAT.
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AtlasONo
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May 13, 2011, 12:52:51 AM |
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Don't waste your time.
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qberty (OP)
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May 13, 2011, 03:01:01 AM |
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Too late. move along.
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May 13, 2011, 08:04:03 AM |
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Given that you refuse to even acknowledge the nature of the issue, I have no choice but to conclude that you most likely have malicious intentions.
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May 13, 2011, 09:11:03 AM |
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Too late. move along.
You're too late. Take any open source poker software add a bitcoin backend and you're done. But worse you actually want to go into a business that just rammed up the chute by the US government and risk the whole enterprise to attack. Fuck you, sir. Fuck you very much with a hockey stick. |
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May 13, 2011, 10:58:34 AM |
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If someone is so bent on the intent that this program has malicious code, then you guys know where to find Olly. Learn assembly and start exploring the code. Specifically for strings like wallet.dat.
When you don't find the malicious code, then come back and of course apologize to the developer.
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May 13, 2011, 01:51:33 PM |
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If someone is so bent on the intent that this program has malicious code, then you guys know where to find Olly. Learn assembly and start exploring the code. Specifically for strings like wallet.dat.
When you don't find the malicious code, then come back and of course apologize to the developer.
You guys really have trouble with the concept of culture. Culture trumps profit. Developer? LOL. Anyone with a little guts and free time is a developer. It's not a special ahievement here, because we all do it. He isn't one Ayn Rand among drooling acolytes. For all you know we are an army of Ayn Rands. "Apologize to the developer". Children, say "Thank you" to the nice electrician who turned on the power for your PS3s. "Someday you'll grow up to be like him. Now eat yer vegetables." Please take your patronizing, condescending, elitist notions elsewhere. We're doing work here. He's an opportunist who doesn't appreciate where this currency is going. And some of the uses people will be applying it to are a priority that is absolutely incompatible with his customer / vendor, server / client bias. |
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May 13, 2011, 02:10:31 PM |
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If someone is so bent on the intent that this program has malicious code, then you guys know where to find Olly. Learn assembly and start exploring the code. Specifically for strings like wallet.dat.
When you don't find the malicious code, then come back and of course apologize to the developer.
I'm not sure if you're being serious, but assuming it was obfuscated even to a simple degree it would likely take weeks to disassemble and follow through the code to a degree you could be sure of what it does. Personally if I particularly wanted the functions I'd rather spend a day and write my own version. There's already a Javascript based Windows gadget floating around that's very easy to verify. |
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