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July 20, 2014, 08:57:07 PM
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July 20, 2014, 09:36:42 PM
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So if I understand.. once 100 people send 0.01 and you have 1.0 BTC you will then send 0.1 to 10 people, thus leaving you with 0 BTC ?

is that pretty much it ?

I suppose if it is a decent book no reason why people should not send you 0.01..  Just seems odd you will then give it all away?
Assuming you actually send the 0.1 this seems like a standard raffle  where you can win 10X the deposit amount?


I have not downloaded it or had a look but  sounds like a decent book if it covers PGP and basic security.

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July 20, 2014, 09:41:20 PM
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I clicked on the goldenkeys.com link, their HTTPS cert expired nearly 2 weeks ago. Am I being MITM'd?
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July 20, 2014, 09:46:27 PM
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So if I understand.. once 100 people send 0.01 and you have 1.0 BTC you will then send 0.1 to 10 people, thus leaving you with 0 BTC ?
No, once 100 people send me 0.01 and I have 1.0 BTC I will draw 0.1 among those 100 and give 0.1 to one single winner. I will use random.org for that.

is that pretty much it ?

I suppose if it is a decent book no reason why people should not send you 0.01..  Just seems odd you will then give it all away?
Assuming you actually send the 0.1 this seems like a standard raffle  where you can win 10X the deposit amount?
Actually I am raising 10 bitcoins and giving 10% of that (1 bitcoin) to the supporters. 1 out of 100 people will win 0.1 bitcoin.

I have not downloaded it or had a look but  sounds like a decent book if it covers PGP and basic security.
Thanks. Check it out, you'll like it.
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July 20, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
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I clicked on the goldenkeys.com link, their HTTPS cert expired nearly 2 weeks ago. Am I being MITM'd?
The correct link is goldenkeys.org, it is working now. I am not using HTTPS.
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July 20, 2014, 09:50:21 PM
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Sorry, that was my mistake. I was on goldenkeys.org when I saw the expired cert.
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July 20, 2014, 09:56:31 PM
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oh ok.
You would probably make more BTC if you just ask for 0.01 if people like it.
Adding the contest makes  it sound dodgy. I know you don't want it to... its just my opinion.. perhaps others will not agree with me.

So if I understand.. once 100 people send 0.01 and you have 1.0 BTC you will then send 0.1 to 10 people, thus leaving you with 0 BTC ?
No, once 100 people send me 0.01 and I have 1.0 BTC I will draw 0.1 among those 100 and give 0.1 to one single winner. I will use random.org for that.

is that pretty much it ?

I suppose if it is a decent book no reason why people should not send you 0.01..  Just seems odd you will then give it all away?
Assuming you actually send the 0.1 this seems like a standard raffle  where you can win 10X the deposit amount?
Actually I am raising 10 bitcoins and giving 10% of that (1 bitcoin) to the supporters. 1 out of 100 people will win 0.1 bitcoin.

I have not downloaded it or had a look but  sounds like a decent book if it covers PGP and basic security.
Thanks. Check it out, you'll like it.

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July 20, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
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oh ok.
You would probably make more BTC if you just ask for 0.01 if people like it.
Adding the contest makes  it sound dodgy. I know you don't want it to... its just my opinion.. perhaps others will not agree with me.
Maybe, I think my text needs some clarification. By the way the reason why I am raising 10 bitcoins is to release the book to the public domain.
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July 20, 2014, 10:24:54 PM
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I don't have BTC to support you, however I must say this book looks promising and I will definitely read it.
Good luck on your goal anyway!
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July 20, 2014, 10:32:46 PM
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I don't have BTC to support you, however I must say this book looks promising and I will definitely read it.
Good luck on your goal anyway!
Thanks, you can also help spreading it to others. Good reading.
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July 21, 2014, 05:47:08 AM
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This sounds like a scam to me.

You are basically asking people to give you BTC, trusting that you will actually hold a drawing to give people .1 BTC as part of the contest.
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July 21, 2014, 07:11:29 AM
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I am also missing the point here. Why do you need 10 Bitcoins to make it public domain. Is that a theoretical figure you placed, on what you would have earned, if you sold the book?

Rather put the book out there and try to sell it or get donations, the last option, being your last resort or is this already your last resort?

Well anyways, I will consider it, but I do not promise to do it.. Let's see how it goes.  Wink

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July 21, 2014, 07:26:03 AM
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This sounds like a scam to me.

You are basically asking people to give you BTC, trusting that you will actually hold a drawing to give people .1 BTC as part of the contest.
I am also missing the point here. Why do you need 10 Bitcoins to make it public domain. Is that a theoretical figure you placed, on what you would have earned, if you sold the book?

Rather put the book out there and try to sell it or get donations, the last option, being your last resort or is this already your last resort?

Well anyways, I will consider it, but I do not promise to do it.. Let's see how it goes.  Wink
I've worked a lot to make this book because I think cryptography is very important but GnuPG (like most free software projects) lacks decent documentation, so I decided to write a guide to help others. My point is: I want to make money with the book AND help the free software community, so to balance things out while I don't raise 10 bitcoins the book is available under a restrictive sharing license (Creative Commons BY-NC-ND), anyone can share it but I hold the copyright. After I raise 10 bitcoins I will release it to the public domain, this way anyone can own it and do whatever they want with it. To "accelerate" things I am holding a contest and giving 10% of my profits to the participants, thus the contest.
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July 23, 2014, 05:45:06 AM
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why i trust you to send btc..? and how many profits can i earn from 0.01 btc ?

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July 23, 2014, 01:36:07 PM
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Wow you arent even trying, this clearly sounds like a scam. :s
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