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July 20, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
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Hi guys,

I used bitcoin-qt as my bitcoin wallet and I forgot to setup a password Sad

So today I checked my wallet and a very small amount of bitcoins were stolen:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1CPEdjFu6TaZpPFGQ81zHaW7prtJ1pk8LV

Is there any chance I get these BTC back? Or do I have to pay to learn the lesson?

After that, I moved to multibit and saved it on several USB-Sticks with a strong password using KeyPass obfuscating. Is there anything else I have to take care of?

Thx for your help!

Regards
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July 20, 2014, 10:40:51 PM
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Hi guys,

I used bitcoin-qt as my bitcoin wallet and I forgot to setup a password Sad

So today I checked my wallet and a very small amount of bitcoins were stolen:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1CPEdjFu6TaZpPFGQ81zHaW7prtJ1pk8LV

Is there any chance I get these BTC back? Or do I have to pay to learn the lesson?

After that, I moved to multibit and saved it on several USB-Sticks with a strong password using KeyPass obfuscating. Is there anything else I have to take care of?

Thx for your help!

Regards
Mix it and send to a complete different address stored on a USB stick. There is no way you will get your money back unless the thief sends it back for some reason.

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July 20, 2014, 10:44:45 PM
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Leider Gottes hatt es schon Bestätigungen du hättest www.bitundo.com benutzen können, ist aber schon zu spät.

Sorry but it is confirmed you should use www.bitundo.com next time
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July 20, 2014, 10:51:11 PM
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But do I have to change my BTC address or can I use the same as before?
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July 20, 2014, 10:54:58 PM
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But do I have to change my BTC address or can I use the same as before?
You should assume that they have your private key, so yes, you should change your address.
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July 20, 2014, 10:55:32 PM
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I'm not really impressed w/ these stories popping up about certain cold storage options getting people hacked or stolen. It's almost easier and safer to leave them at Blockchain.info w/ 2FA on or vault them w/ Xapo.
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July 20, 2014, 11:19:04 PM
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This will not happen if you have a clean pc!! Stop downloading crap and you will not have this problem anymore. Do a full system scan with up2date antivirus.
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July 20, 2014, 11:22:10 PM
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I'm not really impressed w/ these stories popping up about certain cold storage options getting people hacked or stolen. It's almost easier and safer to leave them at Blockchain.info w/ 2FA on or vault them w/ Xapo.

I think that the blockchain.info wallet with 2FA is a mighty fine idea for those wanting to store small holdings of bitcoins. There are so many stories being posted on here of people having their wallet looted, sometimes due to no password, sometimes keyloggers, sometimes even by those close to you.

There's no realistic way to get your money back, DrRobotto. The most likely scenario is that the thief will send some or all of the BTC back to you - and that's unlikely given that they committed the crime with intent. Thankfully it wasn't considerably more - you will have to use it as a lesson.

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July 20, 2014, 11:23:44 PM
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Hm, I did not download anything suspicious. The pc is a computer with a newly installed windows on it. I think the main mistake was that I did not set a password on my BTC wallet. I think the program should force you to use a password, but nevermind. Thx for the replies!
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July 20, 2014, 11:33:20 PM
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Whatever happened to that hardware wallet that was suppose to be shipping about a year ago or so?

QuarkCoin - what I believe bitcoin was intended to be. On reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/
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July 20, 2014, 11:35:17 PM
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Hi guys,

I used bitcoin-qt as my bitcoin wallet and I forgot to setup a password Sad

So today I checked my wallet and a very small amount of bitcoins were stolen:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1CPEdjFu6TaZpPFGQ81zHaW7prtJ1pk8LV

Is there any chance I get these BTC back? Or do I have to pay to learn the lesson?

After that, I moved to multibit and saved it on several USB-Sticks with a strong password using KeyPass obfuscating. Is there anything else I have to take care of?

Thx for your help!

Regards

My suggestion is to not use Microsoft Windows and to use GNU/Linux instead, and yes encrypt your wallet. If one originally created the wallet on Microsoft Windows move the coins to a new wallet created on GNU/Linux. I have been involved with Bitcoin since 2011 and have not lost a single satoshi to malware; however I would not let a single of my satoshi near Microsoft Windows. Make sure to make multiple redundant backups of wallet.dat and keep in mind that after 100 transactions the change or received funds are no longer backed up when using Bitcoin-qt. A good habit is to back up wallet.dat after 20 transactions or so.

By the way I stopped using Microsoft Windows for fiat banking back in 2006 before Bitcoin even existed for the same reasons.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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July 21, 2014, 04:51:48 AM
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Sorry your bitcoin was stolen. Small amounts are easier to store at the places mentioned above. For large amounts it really is worth your time to do a paper wallet.

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July 21, 2014, 08:47:22 AM
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Whatever happened to that hardware wallet that was suppose to be shipping about a year ago or so?

You mean the Trezor?
If that is the case, it is coming really soon.

http://satoshilabs.com/news/2014-07-18-first-edition-classics-getting-ready-for-tour-de-globe/
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July 21, 2014, 08:51:28 AM
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Hi guys,

I used bitcoin-qt as my bitcoin wallet and I forgot to setup a password Sad

So today I checked my wallet and a very small amount of bitcoins were stolen:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1CPEdjFu6TaZpPFGQ81zHaW7prtJ1pk8LV

Is there any chance I get these BTC back? Or do I have to pay to learn the lesson?

I am sorry for your loss, but I am afraid there is no way you can get it back. Sad

After that, I moved to multibit and saved it on several USB-Sticks with a strong password using KeyPass obfuscating. Is there anything else I have to take care of?

Don't go to some strange websites.
Don't click strange links.
Don't download strange email attachments and files.

Switch to an offline wallet when one day you have a significant amount of bitcoin. Smiley

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July 21, 2014, 09:43:21 AM
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Learn about cold storage, too. And do format or just scan your computer, you definitely have malware there...
Be careful what you download, internet is a dark place
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July 21, 2014, 11:42:44 AM
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Hm, I did not download anything suspicious. The pc is a computer with a newly installed windows on it. I think the main mistake was that I did not set a password on my BTC wallet. I think the program should force you to use a password, but nevermind. Thx for the replies!

The question still stands: how did the attacker get your wallet.dat file. Unprotected or not it still has to leave your computer in order to spend your coins. The encryption is an added security feature, but files should not just leave your computer and end up somewhere else.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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July 21, 2014, 11:57:26 AM
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Learn about cold storage, too. And do format or just scan your computer, you definitely have malware there...
Be careful what you download, internet is a dark place

This is the first thing I'm trying to learn, I don't have much btc money but cold storage seems to be a must read here.

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July 21, 2014, 12:11:00 PM
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did he take the whole amount or just some?
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July 21, 2014, 12:18:22 PM
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bitcoin is making me paranoid as hell about everything being a virus  Cry
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July 21, 2014, 12:23:05 PM
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Hi guys,

I used bitcoin-qt as my bitcoin wallet and I forgot to setup a password Sad

So today I checked my wallet and a very small amount of bitcoins were stolen:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1CPEdjFu6TaZpPFGQ81zHaW7prtJ1pk8LV

Is there any chance I get these BTC back? Or do I have to pay to learn the lesson?

After that, I moved to multibit and saved it on several USB-Sticks with a strong password using KeyPass obfuscating. Is there anything else I have to take care of?

Thx for your help!

Regards
Mix it and send to a complete different address stored on a USB stick. There is no way you will get your money back unless the thief sends it back for some reason.
Mixing it doesn't improve the security, mixing only increase the privacy. OP, I suggest you to create a cold storage paper wallet using a offline linux computer and bitaddress.org.

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