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July 23, 2014, 07:09:36 AM |
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It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.
Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile. Precisely my point. It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC. There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet. Elite private proxies anyone? Well I guess. To the common person that's plausible. What about the black hats. How are they going to be anonymous with exhanges when the gov comes and busts them down?
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July 23, 2014, 09:19:40 AM |
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It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.
Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile. Precisely my point. It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC. There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet. Elite private proxies anyone? Well I guess. To the common person that's plausible. What about the black hats. How are they going to be anonymous with exhanges when the gov comes and busts them down? Oh, Probecito! I AM the "Blackhat" to whom you refer. LOL! You don't think we can get around all of that? Think again. Have a nice whitehat day while the government fucks you to death.
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cbeast
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July 23, 2014, 11:41:54 AM |
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It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.
Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile. You are a good example. The air you breathe is public too. Does that threaten your privacy?
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Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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BowieMan
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July 23, 2014, 11:59:12 AM |
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There are so many things going wrong these days. Databases leak on a weekly basis. You just buy something at Target and suddenly it appears that your Credit Card information got stolen. If you can't trust people to handle your data responsibly you just have to take care of that yourself!
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July 23, 2014, 12:06:19 PM |
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So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it. So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.
But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities? Do you just not want to be known?
I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me. Is Anonymity not that important to you?
If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are. In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy. Yup. Also, if i were to buy something ilegal (not that i've ever bought anything ilegal) but if someone wants to go to say SilkRoad, why would they use Bitcoin if something like XMR exists tho? Like why would you want to leave traces on the blockchain or whatnot? I don't know. Isn't all of this solved if you just create a diffrent recieving address each time tho? It's a bit of a pain in the ass but should do the job.
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July 23, 2014, 12:58:27 PM |
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So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it. So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.
But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities? Do you just not want to be known?
I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me. Is Anonymity not that important to you?
If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are. In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy. Yup. Also, if i were to buy something ilegal (not that i've ever bought anything ilegal) but if someone wants to go to say SilkRoad, why would they use Bitcoin if something like XMR exists tho? Like why would you want to leave traces on the blockchain or whatnot? I don't know. Isn't all of this solved if you just create a diffrent recieving address each time tho? It's a bit of a pain in the ass but should do the job. Yeah well, until you - at some point - forward the BTC in those addresses to some address on an exchange or pool them all in one address. It only remains anonymous as long as it isn't connected to some known entity (address)
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July 23, 2014, 02:58:02 PM |
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So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it. So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.
But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities? Do you just not want to be known?
I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me. Is Anonymity not that important to you?
If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are. In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy. Yup. Also, if i were to buy something ilegal (not that i've ever bought anything ilegal) but if someone wants to go to say SilkRoad, why would they use Bitcoin if something like XMR exists tho? Like why would you want to leave traces on the blockchain or whatnot? I don't know. Isn't all of this solved if you just create a diffrent recieving address each time tho? It's a bit of a pain in the ass but should do the job. Also this. Why not use ltc of dark coin or what not?
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cbeast
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July 23, 2014, 07:11:16 PM |
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It seems most people don't know the difference between private and anonymous. They are listing reasons why they want privacy, not anonymity.
Bitcoin has no privacy (all transactions are public). If you want to reclaim some privacy, you need to be anonymous. Unfortunately, Bitcoin only supports pseudo-annonymity: meaning any anonymity (and resulting privacy) is fragile. Precisely my point. It's pretty much impossible for the common person to be using BTC. There's another thread on here where it's said that your IP address will always be associated with your wallet. There is no personal or IP information in the blockchain. Data mining is futile. The NSA is overwhelmed. This is a typical tinfoil hat argument.
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Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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cdog
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July 23, 2014, 07:34:48 PM |
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I want a digital version of cash. I cant buy into a poker game with a check, paypal, or a VISA card
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July 23, 2014, 08:40:59 PM |
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It's not important to me as i'm not doing anything i should be afraid of, but, i do understand that there are many LEGAL situations where ppl need anonimity and it's cool to know that if i eve need to "dissapear" for some time, BTC in combination with other tools can help.
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July 28, 2014, 04:41:31 AM |
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It is for privacy reasons. If you dont value that then ok
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July 28, 2014, 05:26:15 AM |
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Same reasons i like to use cash.
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July 28, 2014, 05:27:52 AM |
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So regarding BTC, I understand why people use it. So you can't be tracked down, it's useful, it's fast, etc etc.
But do you remain anonymous because of blackhat related activities? Do you just not want to be known?
I personally don't care. I just think that BTC is a great investment for me. Is Anonymity not that important to you?
If you run a business, you don't want people to figure out who your buyers and suppliers are. In some industries *cough*porn*cough* what you are doing is perfectly legal but stalkers are crazy. Yup. Also, if i were to buy something ilegal (not that i've ever bought anything ilegal) but if someone wants to go to say SilkRoad, why would they use Bitcoin if something like XMR exists tho? Like why would you want to leave traces on the blockchain or whatnot? I don't know. Isn't all of this solved if you just create a diffrent recieving address each time tho? It's a bit of a pain in the ass but should do the job. There are mixers that are near free that would solve this problem
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July 30, 2014, 09:04:42 AM |
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When protecting one's privacy including financial details. I think anonymity is important.
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July 30, 2014, 10:48:20 AM |
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Anonymity is very important if we want to preserve the freedom of speech. Recently, a lot of anti-Drug cartel bloggers were murdered in Mexico, after the cartels traced back their identity through sophisticated tracking tools. I don't want criminals to target net users.
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dKingston
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July 30, 2014, 10:59:13 AM |
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That question is like asking why you wear clothes. The simple answer is privacy.
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July 30, 2014, 02:07:03 PM |
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The reason why it is so important to me is because the governments are kicking up a fuss about censoring this, censoring that, because of "fear of terrorism and public safety" and stuff. I find it outrageous that they use such a pathetic excuse to cover up what blatantly is just to sensor each and every single person and be able to have access to be able to transfer funds from MY and YOUR bank accounts without premission, internet history logs, they already have blocked some websites on my router. I could sit here and list all day long but I think you all get my drift.
Fuck the government.
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July 30, 2014, 02:29:14 PM |
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Anonymity is not a problem for me as I have not completed any kind of transactions that could cause me problems if I was found out to be the person who made the transaction. I do like having that option to be able to show as anonymous when making transactions as it's privacy which I feel we are all entitled to.
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darkota
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July 30, 2014, 02:39:59 PM |
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Bitcoin is not anonymous, at all. Simply put, there are programs out there and in the making, that track every address associated to a designated Bitcoin address, and can interlock transactions between other known addresses of exchanges etc, to find the identity of the user if she/he cashes out via subpoena.
There goes Bitcoin's pseudo-anonymity.
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July 30, 2014, 02:42:11 PM |
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Anonymity isn't important to me but its a plus. Having an Anonymity is a good thing because a user not publicly known to have enormous amount in the wallet will be a target of scammers.
I won't be doing something illegal anyway so I'm sure people who will transact with me will know my real name since it skype Id is my real name.
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