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July 21, 2014, 07:30:19 PM
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Surely they are losing out because of the miner fees each time they said the transaction to the seller. Why would they not want fees to cover those expenses? They are losing out every time. Am I missing something? 

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July 21, 2014, 07:31:29 PM
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Surely they are losing out because of the miner fees each time they said the transaction to the seller. Why would they not want fees to cover those expenses? They are losing out every time. Am I missing something? 
They are taking fees but giving service without any fees its simple no one going to do this without miner service

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July 21, 2014, 07:44:23 PM
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Thanks for the explanation I thought I was being stupid or missing something.

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July 21, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
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Escrow provides their service to the community to make the bitcoin economy larger and more healthy. They will usually make the buyer send an extra .0001 btc to cover the 2nd tx fee

Most escrow services on these forums also accept tips
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July 22, 2014, 12:01:10 AM
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Escrow provides their service to the community to make the bitcoin economy larger and more healthy. They will usually make the buyer send an extra .0001 btc to cover the 2nd tx fee

Most escrow services on these forums also accept tips

That's true, and sometimes the seller (in most cases) and buyer (a bit less) are happy with the trade and they decide to tip.  Sometimes it's actually a bit more profitable, it all depends on who your dealing with.

All in all, I offer escrow services to help the community, and to minimize [newbie] scams. Smiley
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July 22, 2014, 04:12:24 AM
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Escrow is a good thing.  If a escrow offers it for no fee i would be a little worried unless very well know escrow agent.  Normal is 1 percent or so depending on what is being used.
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July 22, 2014, 04:22:20 AM
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Escrow provides their service to the community to make the bitcoin economy larger and more healthy. They will usually make the buyer send an extra .0001 btc to cover the 2nd tx fee

Most escrow services on these forums also accept tips

That's true, and sometimes the seller (in most cases) and buyer (a bit less) are happy with the trade and they decide to tip.  Sometimes it's actually a bit more profitable, it all depends on who your dealing with.

All in all, I offer escrow services to help the community, and to minimize [newbie] scams. Smiley
I think that accepting tips for escrow services would be more profitable then taking a percentage for most smaller deals. If a seller would tip escrow .01 on a .25 deal, then the escrow just made 4% on the deal, which I don't think he would be able to earn charging a fixed percentage.

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July 22, 2014, 04:34:42 AM
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Escrow provides their service to the community to make the bitcoin economy larger and more healthy. They will usually make the buyer send an extra .0001 btc to cover the 2nd tx fee

Most escrow services on these forums also accept tips

That's true, and sometimes the seller (in most cases) and buyer (a bit less) are happy with the trade and they decide to tip.  Sometimes it's actually a bit more profitable, it all depends on who your dealing with.

All in all, I offer escrow services to help the community, and to minimize [newbie] scams. Smiley
I think that accepting tips for escrow services would be more profitable then taking a percentage for most smaller deals. If a seller would tip escrow .01 on a .25 deal, then the escrow just made 4% on the deal, which I don't think he would be able to earn charging a fixed percentage.
People won't pay out tips that often, from what I gather. So it would be more profitable if they just charged a fixed percentage (Example; 1%) and then went from there. You'd be asking for 1 person in every 4 exchanges to send you 4%, based on your example, so it just wouldn't be a better deal to just accept tips.
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July 22, 2014, 05:13:40 AM
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They do without charge because people using bitcoin to trade things, and don't crying about bitcoin scams to everyone they can reach, is indirectly beneficial to them, since more people will hold and trust bitcoin.

They see the whole picture, not only short term profits.
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July 22, 2014, 02:16:59 PM
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How can I use an escrow to sell like a webpage for BTC? or other digital goods
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July 22, 2014, 02:25:43 PM
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Escrow provides their service to the community to make the bitcoin economy larger and more healthy. They will usually make the buyer send an extra .0001 btc to cover the 2nd tx fee

Most escrow services on these forums also accept tips

That's true, and sometimes the seller (in most cases) and buyer (a bit less) are happy with the trade and they decide to tip.  Sometimes it's actually a bit more profitable, it all depends on who your dealing with.

All in all, I offer escrow services to help the community, and to minimize [newbie] scams. Smiley
I think that accepting tips for escrow services would be more profitable then taking a percentage for most smaller deals. If a seller would tip escrow .01 on a .25 deal, then the escrow just made 4% on the deal, which I don't think he would be able to earn charging a fixed percentage.
People won't pay out tips that often, from what I gather. So it would be more profitable if they just charged a fixed percentage (Example; 1%) and then went from there. You'd be asking for 1 person in every 4 exchanges to send you 4%, based on your example, so it just wouldn't be a better deal to just accept tips.

True, but if they ask for a fixed fee, they probably won't have many customers.
After all, there are quite a number of highly trusted people here providing free/tips escrow services.

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July 22, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
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Surely they are losing out because of the miner fees each time they said the transaction to the seller. Why would they not want fees to cover those expenses? They are losing out every time. Am I missing something? 

1. They may be given tips.
2. They are doing it kind of like a community service.

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July 22, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
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Usually they get some fees and some others depend on tips.
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July 22, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
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Escrow provides their service to the community to make the bitcoin economy larger and more healthy. They will usually make the buyer send an extra .0001 btc to cover the 2nd tx fee

Most escrow services on these forums also accept tips

That's true, and sometimes the seller (in most cases) and buyer (a bit less) are happy with the trade and they decide to tip.  Sometimes it's actually a bit more profitable, it all depends on who your dealing with.

All in all, I offer escrow services to help the community, and to minimize [newbie] scams. Smiley
I think that accepting tips for escrow services would be more profitable then taking a percentage for most smaller deals. If a seller would tip escrow .01 on a .25 deal, then the escrow just made 4% on the deal, which I don't think he would be able to earn charging a fixed percentage.
People won't pay out tips that often, from what I gather. So it would be more profitable if they just charged a fixed percentage (Example; 1%) and then went from there. You'd be asking for 1 person in every 4 exchanges to send you 4%, based on your example, so it just wouldn't be a better deal to just accept tips.
I think a lot less people would use escrow services if escrow services were to charge for their services. I also think that escrow would have to spend a lot more time negotiating their price then it is really worth. 

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July 22, 2014, 02:48:54 PM
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Personally i think its great that some escrow do this for free , it keep the forum a bit cleaner from scammers
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July 22, 2014, 03:06:15 PM
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I think when they say free it still includes the transaction fees. Most escrowers who offer a free service probably just do this to attract more users in the hope that they get a little tip from each deal.

How can I use an escrow to sell like a webpage for BTC? or other digital goods

Same way you use any other deal. The person who wants to buy sends the money to the escrow and the seller transfers the digital goods over to the buyer, then the escrow releases the funds.

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July 22, 2014, 03:48:06 PM
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Escrow isn't a great way to earn money but a great way to improve the trust among the bitcoin community.

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July 22, 2014, 03:54:58 PM
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Escrow isn't a great way to earn money but a great way to improve the trust among the bitcoin community.

That's true, but it can also be used for a ;long con. Build up trust over a bit of time handling small amounts then as soon as somebody trusts you with a very large amount like 100 bitcoins or something you could dissapear. Thankfully though I think most escrowers are legit, but there's always a level of trust involved.
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July 22, 2014, 04:17:32 PM
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Escrow isn't a great way to earn money but a great way to improve the trust among the bitcoin community.

That's true, but it can also be used for a ;long con. Build up trust over a bit of time handling small amounts then as soon as somebody trusts you with a very large amount like 100 bitcoins or something you could dissapear. Thankfully though I think most escrowers are legit, but there's always a level of trust involved.

I think the most trusted escrow here is escrow.ms, I would do large transaction with him without fear, but still there's a 0,00001% possibility that he will disappear with the coins.
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July 22, 2014, 04:20:49 PM
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they take tips instead right?  is there a list since John K seems to be no longer for escrow besides escrow.ms.
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