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July 22, 2014, 04:27:33 PM
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Escrow isn't a great way to earn money but a great way to improve the trust among the bitcoin community.

That's true, but it can also be used for a ;long con. Build up trust over a bit of time handling small amounts then as soon as somebody trusts you with a very large amount like 100 bitcoins or something you could dissapear. Thankfully though I think most escrowers are legit, but there's always a level of trust involved.

I think the most trusted escrow here is escrow.ms, I would do large transaction with him without fear, but still there's a 0,00001% possibility that he will disappear with the coins.

I think the chance is much higher than that, as he may come to an accident (fire accident, car crash, etc.) and be unable to release the escrow (not that he runs away with your coins).

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July 22, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
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so the summary is:

they charge for the transaction fee but nothing else. this is normally charged by the seller.

some members of the forum do offer completely free escrow services which offer people to tip.

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July 23, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
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I believe they contribute to the community and want to have a bigger audience for the bitcoin currency.

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Feb. 14, 2010: I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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July 23, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
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I believe they contribute to the community and want to have a bigger audience for the bitcoin currency.

It's already be discussed most escrows which require no fees at all are doing it for the community such as a community service but that is rare and most do require fees.

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July 23, 2014, 02:13:12 PM
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Do escrows scam people?
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July 23, 2014, 02:20:40 PM
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Do escrows scam people?

They can do but if you use a trusted escrow the odds are reduced as most are very trusted in the community and have been in the community for at least 2 years and have handled over 1000 Bitcoin.

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July 23, 2014, 03:48:17 PM
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Do escrows scam people?

They can do but if you use a trusted escrow the odds are reduced as most are very trusted in the community and have been in the community for at least 2 years and have handled over 1000 Bitcoin.

Exactly.

If someone have held hundreds and thousands of bitcoin as escrow before without scamming, would he/she scam my small amount of bitcoin? Probably not. Cheesy

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July 23, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
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Do escrows scam people?

They can do but if you use a trusted escrow the odds are reduced as most are very trusted in the community and have been in the community for at least 2 years and have handled over 1000 Bitcoin.

Exactly.

If someone have held hundreds and thousands of bitcoin as escrow before without scamming, would he/she scam my small amount of bitcoin? Probably not. Cheesy

Probably not. But there is of course still a possibility.

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July 23, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
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I've never seen an escrow (website at least) without fees, but if bitcointalk users are doing it they are just doing it for a favor, or maybe for some trust.

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July 23, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
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I've never seen an escrow (website at least) without fees, but if bitcointalk users are doing it they are just doing it for a favor, or maybe for some trust.
Most of escrows working here on this forum so they no need any website they have threads in Lending and services sections

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July 23, 2014, 03:56:47 PM
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I've never seen an escrow (website at least) without fees, but if bitcointalk users are doing it they are just doing it for a favor, or maybe for some trust.

I don't think I know or would trust a website escrow anyway at least here you know some of the history with the escrow.

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July 23, 2014, 03:57:10 PM
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Do escrows scam people?

They can do but if you use a trusted escrow the odds are reduced as most are very trusted in the community and have been in the community for at least 2 years and have handled over 1000 Bitcoin.

Exactly.

If someone have held hundreds and thousands of bitcoin as escrow before without scamming, would he/she scam my small amount of bitcoin? Probably not. Cheesy

Probably not. But there is of course still a possibility.

That's true, but escrow is used because you don't trust the buyer/seller you are dealing with.
So, if you think the escrow person is more trustworthy than the buyer/seller, you should definitely use the escrow service. Cheesy

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July 23, 2014, 03:57:47 PM
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Escrows also have pretty big minimums. If I were to need an escrow I would contact an old experienced member with a good trust rating and experience with being an escrow.

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July 24, 2014, 12:46:15 AM
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I've been offering a free escrow service for over 2 years. Yes I have lost a little btc (.00X?) due to transaction fees but I have more than made up for it in tips.

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July 24, 2014, 01:54:07 AM
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Escrow isn't a great way to earn money but a great way to improve the trust among the bitcoin community.

That's true, but it can also be used for a ;long con. Build up trust over a bit of time handling small amounts then as soon as somebody trusts you with a very large amount like 100 bitcoins or something you could dissapear. Thankfully though I think most escrowers are legit, but there's always a level of trust involved.

I think the most trusted escrow here is escrow.ms, I would do large transaction with him without fear, but still there's a 0,00001% possibility that he will disappear with the coins.

I think the chance is much higher than that, as he may come to an accident (fire accident, car crash, etc.) and be unable to release the escrow (not that he runs away with your coins).

Thats a huge factor, so I guess whenever you do any transaction it better not be a huge one.
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July 24, 2014, 01:56:45 AM
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Escrow isn't a great way to earn money but a great way to improve the trust among the bitcoin community.

That's true, but it can also be used for a ;long con. Build up trust over a bit of time handling small amounts then as soon as somebody trusts you with a very large amount like 100 bitcoins or something you could dissapear. Thankfully though I think most escrowers are legit, but there's always a level of trust involved.

I think the most trusted escrow here is escrow.ms, I would do large transaction with him without fear, but still there's a 0,00001% possibility that he will disappear with the coins.

I think the chance is much higher than that, as he may come to an accident (fire accident, car crash, etc.) and be unable to release the escrow (not that he runs away with your coins).
The chances of this happening is very slim. The deaths per 100,000 are very small for these things happening.
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July 24, 2014, 03:02:14 PM
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Escrow isn't a great way to earn money but a great way to improve the trust among the bitcoin community.

That's true, but it can also be used for a ;long con. Build up trust over a bit of time handling small amounts then as soon as somebody trusts you with a very large amount like 100 bitcoins or something you could dissapear. Thankfully though I think most escrowers are legit, but there's always a level of trust involved.

I think the most trusted escrow here is escrow.ms, I would do large transaction with him without fear, but still there's a 0,00001% possibility that he will disappear with the coins.

I think the chance is much higher than that, as he may come to an accident (fire accident, car crash, etc.) and be unable to release the escrow (not that he runs away with your coins).

Thats a huge factor, so I guess whenever you do any transaction it better not be a huge one.

You can do a 2-of-3 transaction if you are worried about that.
It is statistically very very unlikely to have 2 escrows getting into accident at the time. Smiley

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