Family Considers Killing 10-Year-Old Daughter After Mullah Rapes Her In Mosque

[Rigon]

Another day in the lives of women under the brutality of Islam.. there will be no justice or redemption for this girl until Islam is eradicated from the earth!!!

[foggyb]

What is wrong with this peoples mind. Look like they are still living in stone age.

Are you implying that honor killing was ok in the stone age? If so, its not a moral issue for you. Moral values are absolute.

I should hope you're outraged because these people have corrupt morals. They're not following a moral-giving higher power, they're serving themselves.

I fear this sad situation will translate from 'Muslim honor killing is evil' to 'People of faith are evil'.

[beetcoin]

i once knew an asian girl in college who was raped while out on a date.. i asked her if her parents knew, and she said no... because they would end up blaming it on her. people can be really backwards sometimes.

[BCEmporium]

What are "morals" and "corrupt morals"?
Are the "morals" from the "holy" books right? Do they set the bar? If so, why we feel so much of immorality and twisted morals on all of them? Fathers fucking daughters, killing sons and wives for nothing... the (un)holy books are an "everything goes" as long as it is "in the name of God".

"Morality" is a subjective path, the very same thing can be moral to one and immoral to another. But we can draw a few lines, and those would be to not hurt our kin and protect the weak ones, anything within this boundaries can be considered "moral", anything that violates it "immoral".

If we go by the unholy books we will get Hell on Earth, with people picking on other people for things that aren't in anyway of their concern nor harm or disturb them on anyway.

Work to make Earth a Paradise, because this is the only place you're sure to exist!

[bitsmichel]

It was bad enough that the alleged rape took place in the sanctity of a mosque and that the accused man was a mullah who invoked the familiar defence that it had been consensual sex.

But the victim was only 10 years old. And there was more: The authorities said her family members openly planned to carry out an honour killing in the case – against the young girl. The mullah offered to marry his victim instead.

This past week, the awful matter became even worse. On Tuesday, local policemen removed the girl from the shelter that had given her refuge and returned her to her family, despite complaints from women’s activists that she was likely to be killed.

The case has broader repercussions. The head of the Women for Afghan Women shelter here where the girl took refuge, Dr. Hassina Sarwari, was at one point driven into hiding by death threats from the girl’s family and other mullahs, who sought to play down the crime by arguing the girl was much older than 10. One militia commander sent Sarwari threatening texts and an ultimatum to return the girl to her family. The doctor said she now wanted to flee Afghanistan.

The head of the women’s affairs office in Kunduz, Nederah Geyah, who actively campaigned to have the young girl protected from her family and the mullah prosecuted, resigned May 21 and moved to another part of the country.

The case itself would just be an aberrant atrocity, except that the resulting support for the mullah, and for the girl’s family and its honour killing plans, have become emblematic of a broader failure to help Afghan women who have been victims of violence.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/20/family-under-pressure-to-kill-10-year-old-daughter-after-mullah-rapes-her-in-afghanistan-mosque/

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http://youtu.be/E2VCwBzGdP

Pedophiles being protected, really really backwards. Afghanistan needs a cultural reform.

As for honour killings in Afghanistan: recorded 240 cases of honor killings, but the total number is believed to be much higher. Of the reported honor killings, 21% were committed by the victims’ husbands, 7% by their brothers, 4% by their fathers, and the rest by other relatives (2012) Within the United States, the overwhelming majority of honor killings are perpetrated by Muslims against Muslims (90% of honor killings known to have taken place in Europe and the United States from 1998 to 2008. Source: wiki

[Wilikon]

hbdchick talks about this on her blog.  The practice of honor killings seems evil and insane to Westerners.  It is evil, there really isn't any doubt.  However it isn't insane, and in fact is a logical course of action.

The Bedouin practiced what is called "father's brother's daughter marriage" (FBD) which means that you marry the daughter of your father's brother, your paternal first cousin.  While cousin marriage has been common throughout the world and throughout history, FBD is very rare with one exception: areas formerly part of the caliphate.

FBD, unlike cross-cousin marriage, tends to turn a family tree into a ladder.  The result is a much higher degree of genetic similarity among relatives.  The result is that a man will care for his nephews and nieces much more than normal.  If his daughter has scandalous behavior then it could compromise the ability of his relatives to get good marriages (remember that while most marriages are to closely related members of the family, there are still many that aren't).  So for the sake of family success the family has a massive incentive keep its honor intact.

Ok, so now you find that your daughter has been raped.  No one will dishonor his family by marrying a broken woman, and so the woman is unmarriageable.  Genetically, she is a dead end.  However, unlike a dead daughter, she can still harm the honor and thus the marriage prospects of her extended family.  She might get raped again.  She might become despondent and start sleeping around.  Genetically, she has no upside and plenty of downside.  Thus the muslim populations of these lands have evolved a response (honor killing) to handle this situation.

So while it is an evil practice, it is perfectly logical.  The only way to eliminate it would be to eliminate FBD marriage.  Eliminating all cousin marriage would speed the process, though it would probably still take a few centuries.

So while it is an evil practice, it is perfectly logical.

Wow...

[BCEmporium]

hbdchick talks about this on her blog.  The practice of honor killings seems evil and insane to Westerners.  It is evil, there really isn't any doubt.  However it isn't insane, and in fact is a logical course of action.

The Bedouin practiced what is called "father's brother's daughter marriage" (FBD) which means that you marry the daughter of your father's brother, your paternal first cousin.  While cousin marriage has been common throughout the world and throughout history, FBD is very rare with one exception: areas formerly part of the caliphate.

FBD, unlike cross-cousin marriage, tends to turn a family tree into a ladder.  The result is a much higher degree of genetic similarity among relatives.  The result is that a man will care for his nephews and nieces much more than normal.  If his daughter has scandalous behavior then it could compromise the ability of his relatives to get good marriages (remember that while most marriages are to closely related members of the family, there are still many that aren't).  So for the sake of family success the family has a massive incentive keep its honor intact.

Ok, so now you find that your daughter has been raped.  No one will dishonor his family by marrying a broken woman, and so the woman is unmarriageable.  Genetically, she is a dead end.  However, unlike a dead daughter, she can still harm the honor and thus the marriage prospects of her extended family.  She might get raped again.  She might become despondent and start sleeping around.  Genetically, she has no upside and plenty of downside.  Thus the muslim populations of these lands have evolved a response (honor killing) to handle this situation.

So while it is an evil practice, it is perfectly logical.  The only way to eliminate it would be to eliminate FBD marriage.  Eliminating all cousin marriage would speed the process, though it would probably still take a few centuries.

This is just "logical" if you got repeatedly hit in the head by a hammer or your parents are close relatives and therefore you have mental issues! O.o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding

[foggyb]

What are "morals" and "corrupt morals"?
Are the "morals" from the "holy" books right? Do they set the bar? If so, why we feel so much of immorality and twisted morals on all of them? Fathers fucking daughters, killing sons and wives for nothing... the (un)holy books are an "everything goes" as long as it is "in the name of God".

"Morality" is a subjective path, the very same thing can be moral to one and immoral to another. But we can draw a few lines, and those would be to not hurt our kin and protect the weak ones, anything within this boundaries can be considered "moral", anything that violates it "immoral".

If we go by the unholy books we will get Hell on Earth, with people picking on other people for things that aren't in anyway of their concern nor harm or disturb them on anyway.

Work to make Earth a Paradise, because this is the only place you're sure to exist!

Morals are NOT subject to your whims. That is why we can mostly agree that rape and murder are wrong. Simply because it is a fixed absolute idea with the source being of supernatural origin. We don't just make these laws to get along. We make them because its the right thing to do. I propose that the reason you don't agree is because you deny the supernatural. Fine, but be honest about it.

If morals were subjective, then were the US Constitution unlawful, null & void. (ie. who are you tell me what rights I can't have. This is implied by the constitution, that you can't do whatever you decide is right).

[BCEmporium]

The fact something is subjective doesn't mean it is non-existent. Or that you can run over our society structure and laws.

No morals comes from God or any supernatural thing, "morals" come from philosophy, human experience and practical results and sometimes envy, greed or other hard feelings.
i.e A society of murders wouldn't live long as they would keep killing each other.

And still, under the subjective view, for a 21st century western it is equally wrong to kill a woman or a man, for a traditional Afghan it isn't, kill a woman is a somewhat "normal thing". If it was a "fixed view" then the Afghans would put this pedophile behind bars and threw away the key.

Edit:

And more! If morals were fixed then there would be no social evolution. Gays would still be persecuted and/or killed at US, for an instance, whereas whatever they do cause no harm to the society.