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March 21, 2012, 07:42:31 AM
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

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March 21, 2012, 07:46:38 AM
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

You advocate a surveillance of Luke Jr. because he advocates surveillance of you? Interesting.  What is it like living inside your hypocritical mind, Atlas?

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March 21, 2012, 07:48:38 AM
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March 21, 2012, 07:50:53 AM
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

You advocate a surveillance of Luke Jr. because he advocates surveillance of you? Interesting.  What is it like living inside your hypocritical mind, Atlas?

Being audited by the IRS because your IP was on a compromised node is far more severe than stalking Mr. Luke-Jr's merge requests.

One entails costly paperwork and possibly bankruptcy. The other entails minor social consequences.

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March 21, 2012, 07:51:49 AM
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

You advocate a surveillance of Luke Jr. because he advocates surveillance of you? Interesting.  What is it like living inside your hypocritical mind, Atlas?

Being audited by the IRS because your IP was on a compromised node is far more severe than stalking Mr. Luke-Jr's merge requests.

One entails costly paperwork and possibly bankruptcy. The other entails minor social consequences.

So you admit that when push comes to shove, your philosophy is dropped at the door and you will advocate violence and coercion?

The IRS's involvement in anything you do is also a social consequence.

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March 21, 2012, 07:53:05 AM
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Sheesh, he's talking about recording info he already has access to and making it easy for other's to do the same right? Don't send blocks or tx from your own IP if you don't want them to be connected.

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March 21, 2012, 07:53:54 AM
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Sheesh, he's talking about recording info he already has access to and making it easy for other's to do the same right? Don't send blocks or tx from your own IP if you don't want them to be connected.

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Atlas is just fear mongering to suit the needs of his deranged and self-important, spergy existence.

"Look at me! Look at me! I have a mouth hole! When can I have my Nobel Peace Prize for rescuing Bitcoin from the people who helped make it while I, a talentless fuckwitt, just stood by and gawked giving pseudo intellectual inexperienced opinons?"

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March 21, 2012, 07:55:06 AM
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

You advocate a surveillance of Luke Jr. because he advocates surveillance of you? Interesting.  What is it like living inside your hypocritical mind, Atlas?

Being audited by the IRS because your IP was on a compromised node is far more severe than stalking Mr. Luke-Jr's merge requests.

One entails costly paperwork and possibly bankruptcy. The other entails minor social consequences.

So you admit that when push comes to shove, your philosophy is dropped at the door and you will advocate violence and coercion?

I have no philosophy. I just want privacy to be inherent in Bitcoin.

Anyways, you're being retarded, so no fucks are given, Matthew.

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March 21, 2012, 07:56:45 AM
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OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?

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March 21, 2012, 07:59:48 AM
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OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 21, 2012, 08:02:02 AM
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If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?



I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear.
And yet you use the DNS system by typing in a domain name instead of an IP address?


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March 21, 2012, 08:06:33 AM
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It seems I am overreacting. I truly understand what this actually is now but I am still skeptical.

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March 21, 2012, 08:12:26 AM
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OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.

Of course he should. Post-Tits.
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March 21, 2012, 08:13:27 AM
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OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.

Of course he should. Post-Tits.

Sadly, for my sense of empathy, /b/ already does this.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 21, 2012, 08:14:15 AM
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OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.

Of course he should. Post-Tits.

Are you advocating child pornography? Be careful, Atlas might start a phone drive to support Parapain reporting to the Spanish authorities that you might be going to Pattaya.

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March 21, 2012, 08:17:02 AM
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Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

Stuff getting merged requires 51% of the Bitcoin world's hashing power to agree with it.

If anything, we should keep a watchful eye on you so that we can be there to take the photos of when you snap and start shooting people in a public square for your deranged and sociopathic reasons.

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March 21, 2012, 08:26:02 AM
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Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

Stuff getting merged requires 51% of the Bitcoin world's hashing power to agree with it.

That's irrelevant if people don't know what's in the upgrade. That's why I am calling for awareness and NOT trusting people's word. We need to read in between the lines and not just the title.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 21, 2012, 08:40:38 AM
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Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

Stuff getting merged requires 51% of the Bitcoin world's hashing power to agree with it.

That's irrelevant if people don't know what's in the upgrade. That's why I am calling for awareness and NOT trusting people's word. We need to read in between the lines and not just the title.

Oh, Atlas. What would we do without you. Without your noble position in the community of calling out everything that creeps and has shadows, we would all be so ignorant on our own. Tell me though, do you even know how the Bitcoin client communicates with nodes? Can you give me a brief description of the protocol?

Can you let the adults work and cram the pseudo-intellectual self-important bullshit? Maybe start asking questions instead of making bogus claims all the time?

"I just wanted to ask, is this something you guys think we should worry about?" <--- Appropriate

"Be on the watch my minions! The time for reckoning is close at hand! Luke Jr (who has never actually made any commits to the Bitcoin protocol whatsoever) said something somewhere! Beware!" <--- Ignorant, like you.

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March 21, 2012, 08:45:02 AM
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Matthew, you're too good for this. I hate to see you waste your energy on something so minuscule. So what if I am reactionary? Don't you have a girl to fuck and a magazine to print?

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March 21, 2012, 08:45:22 AM
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It seems I am overreacting. I truly understand what this actually is now but I am still skeptical.

This is a reaction to people wanting to find out who is producing the blocks without transactions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67634).

The node inherently knows where the blocks it receives come from. This patch is merely logging this info to debug.log. I made a similar one: http://pastebin.com/EgJAGnSj.

This in itself I find not worrying. Of course one could connect a node to as many other nodes as possible and find out where a block/tx is originating from (the node first broadcasting it). This is already done by many (for example blockchain.info, bitcoinwatch.com do this to determine source of blocks for statistics)

So yes, this might be a privacy-problem for some, albeit a small one (even if you're identified as the originator of some transaction, it's still unknown who the recipient is. Looking at a transaction, I cannot tell wether or not it goes to SR, for example). If you want to mask yourself as the originator of a block/tx you will have to resort to established IP-hiding measures (use proxy, i2p, tor). If I was, for example, the linode-thief, I would certainly do this.

EDIT: I dont assume luke-jr wants this pull-request pulled into bitcoin. He's just using github as a conventient place to publish his patch to interested parties.

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