Study: Socialists Twice As Likely To Cheat, “Lasting Impact On Basic Morality"

[Wilikon]

Individuals exposed to socialism were twice as likely to cheat as those who had not been in a socialist system, says a new study from a collaboration between Duke University and the University of Munich. “The longer individuals were exposed to socialism, the more likely they were to cheat on our task.”

Researchers compared 259 participants’ willingness to lie and cheat by playing a simple game that could earn them $8. Every game player was asked to throw a pair of dice 40 times and record every roll of the dice on paper. Those with the highest tallies would have the highest payoff. Players had to commit to write down the number on either the top or the bottom of the dice. Since they didn’t have to say which side they had chosen, it was easy to cheat by rolling the dice and then pretending the higher number was the side they had chosen. [...]

“We interpret our findings as evidence that the political regime of socialism has a lasting impact on citizens’ basic morality,” say the study’s authors Ariely, Garcia-Rada, Hornuf and Mann.


http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/study-socialists-twice-likely-cheat

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[Chef Ramsay]

Doesn't surprise me one bit. Fostering an entitlement atmosphere isn't exactly optimum for the spread of anything more than a sub-par mentality culture. Do the bare minimum because any extra creative skills will be quashed or penalized via excessive regulation/taxation. Gee whiz thinks the young person fresh out of government skoolz. They can either get a menial job or start shelling out kids and have all their bases covered so they can sit around and just exist rather than excel at something of material gain, which leads to societal gain typically. The water tends to settle around the lowest common denominator as there are more barriers to prosperity yet more rewards for mediocrity or less.

[pedrog]

"If you play by the rules, you will always lose."

Well, I have serious doubts about that conclusion, a ton of other factors surely contributed for the outcome of those results, but by that conclusion it seems individuals raised in a socialist regime are more fit to survive.  

[Wilikon]

"If you play by the rules, you will always lose."

Well, I have serious doubts about that conclusion, a ton of other factors surely contributed for the outcome of those results, but by that conclusion it seems individuals raised in a socialist regime are more fit to survive.  

.. By stepping on other people's face I agree...  Survival of the fittest does define socialism when there is one loaf of bread left for 100 system dependent people...

[shogdite]

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/21/1118373109.abstract

Seven studies using experimental and naturalistic methods reveal that upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals. In studies 1 and 2, upper-class individuals were more likely to break the law while driving, relative to lower-class individuals. In follow-up laboratory studies, upper-class individuals were more likely to exhibit unethical decision-making tendencies (study 3), take valued goods from others (study 4), lie in a negotiation (study 5), cheat to increase their chances of winning a prize (study 6), and endorse unethical behavior at work (study 7) than were lower-class individuals. Mediator and moderator data demonstrated that upper-class individuals’ unethical tendencies are accounted for, in part, by their more favorable attitudes toward greed.

[practicaldreamer]

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/21/1118373109.abstract

Seven studies using experimental and naturalistic methods reveal that upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals.

LOL - agreed.

     And in a participant observer study undertaken by the University of PD over the last 30 years, said upper class are 1000% less likely to have said unethical behaviour admonished/sanctioned than their lumpenproletariat counterparts 

[bitsmichel]

Researchers compared 259 participants' willingness to lie and cheat by playing a simple game that could earn them $8

259? This dataset is... beyond tiny!  I think this is way to small to make any conclusions. Looks like they were in a hurry to make the yearly publish record, and quickly ran this experiment.

[Ekaros]

Researchers compared 259 participants' willingness to lie and cheat by playing a simple game that could earn them $8

259? This dataset is... beyond tiny!  I think this is way to small to make any conclusions. Looks like they were in a hurry to make the yearly publish record, and quickly ran this experiment.

Was comparison just west and east Germany too?

[bitsmichel]

Researchers compared 259 participants' willingness to lie and cheat by playing a simple game that could earn them $8

259? This dataset is... beyond tiny!  I think this is way to small to make any conclusions. Looks like they were in a hurry to make the yearly publish record, and quickly ran this experiment.

Was comparison just west and east Germany too?

Looks like it:

Those who grew up in East Germany were twice as likely to cheat as those who grew up in capitalism in West Germany. And, the longer someone had lived in East Germany, the more likely they were to lie about the result of their dice rolls.

It is just way too few data to make any conclusions. It's like I count 300 cars in Japan, and conclude all cars in the world must be of type Hyundai and Toyota

[beetcoin]

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/21/1118373109.abstract

Seven studies using experimental and naturalistic methods reveal that upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals. In studies 1 and 2, upper-class individuals were more likely to break the law while driving, relative to lower-class individuals. In follow-up laboratory studies, upper-class individuals were more likely to exhibit unethical decision-making tendencies (study 3), take valued goods from others (study 4), lie in a negotiation (study 5), cheat to increase their chances of winning a prize (study 6), and endorse unethical behavior at work (study 7) than were lower-class individuals. Mediator and moderator data demonstrated that upper-class individuals’ unethical tendencies are accounted for, in part, by their more favorable attitudes toward greed.

yep, it makes sense to me. to become wealthy, you need to have a disregard for the wake of whatever the fuck you do to make money. in most cases, you have to bend the rules to get ahead of others to become successful. that's basically capitalism there, so socialism may not be a good system, but it's not like capitalism is the ideal.