legendster
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January 11, 2015, 07:52:30 AM Last edit: January 11, 2015, 03:41:39 PM by legendster |
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legendster, devthedev has a life. Everyone that does escrow has a life. You cannot expect them to be around 24/7. I know it sucks, but you will have to wait patiently and keep this in mind next time you use escrow. This will happen again.
Understand this that I am not lashing out because he is late. I am kinda lashing out because he went offline with an active trade online. Off course I understand this 'happens' I m not new here. I received confirmation of receipt from the other party at 04:57:06. (5 hours ago) My response time is usually under 15 minutes. However, I had an unforeseen family matter I had to take care of. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. I will not be an inconsiderate ass and give you a negative for this, but I should expect a positive feedback from you on my trust score. Whatever be the reason you made me loose 3.62% of FIAT value of the BTC you were holding. I sent you payment confirmation from my end with bank transfer screenshots 18 hours prior to your escrow release. The other party had already confirmed that he received the money within 5 minutes of the Bank transfer (it was done through instant transfer), he sent me a message confirming that he had asked you to release the payment at January 10, 2015, 10:59:14 AM. Regardless, since this was a free service I dont have much to complain about, I must give you a friendly advice however, dont go offline ever again, with an active trade in the pipeline. Thats not professional whatever be the reason. Although it seems to me you were busy flying your Parrot Bebop Drone.Good luck with your service. I might use your service again.
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legendster
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January 11, 2015, 03:36:28 PM |
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I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
I know you might not be related to this, but hey, this guy only has 1 positive trust score and its from you and he has sent FOUR trust feedbacks, one of them being a marvelous POSITIVE review of your character. One sympathetic POSITIVE for a bonafide SCAMMER, one negative for another bonafide scammer because that scammer paid late for a signature campaign and a trollish NEGATIVE for me that just says 'Inconsiderate ass' and refers to this post. Makes me wonder.... if this is your alternate account for running sig campaigns ... and a whole load of other things that really encourages me to run a smear campaign against your escrow service. I wont do it cuz his feedback really doesnt hurt me but I m just telling you that I could. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fo08h03.jpg&t=665&c=dic-R7iEQ1hk-w)
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elliwilli
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January 11, 2015, 03:45:54 PM |
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I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
I know you might not be related to this, but hey, this guy only has 1 positive trust score and its from you and he has sent FOUR trust feedbacks, one of them being a marvelous POSITIVE review of your character. One sympathetic POSITIVE for a bonafide SCAMMER, one negative for another bonafide scammer because that scammer paid late for a signature campaign and a trollish NEGATIVE for me that just says 'Inconsiderate ass' and refers to this post. Makes me wonder.... if this is your alternate account for running sig campaigns ... and a whole load of other things that really encourages me to run a smear campaign against your escrow service. I wont do it cuz his feedback really doesnt hurt me but I m just telling you that I could. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fo08h03.jpg&t=665&c=dic-R7iEQ1hk-w) AHAHA Oh wow. No im just a Friend of devs that used to do security and pen-testing on his old projects. If you want proof ask the admins for IP records because im from the UK and Dev is from Florida. Also, you say the rep does not matter bout you are bitching about it so kinda contradictory.
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legendster
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January 11, 2015, 03:48:33 PM |
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AHAHA Oh wow. No im just a Friend of devs that used to do security and pen-testing on his old projects. If you want proof ask the admins for IP records because im from the UK and Dev is from Florida.
Ah good to know, so which drink made you drunk enough to leave a negative on my profile ?
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elliwilli
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January 11, 2015, 03:58:32 PM |
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AHAHA Oh wow. No im just a Friend of devs that used to do security and pen-testing on his old projects. If you want proof ask the admins for IP records because im from the UK and Dev is from Florida.
Ah good to know, so which drink made you drunk enough to leave a negative on my profile ? Currently tea. Probably later will be single malt, want me to talk to you when I'm drunk enough? Anyway, now its cleared up you may as well remove the slander about me being an alt, the other one can stay.
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legendster
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January 11, 2015, 04:01:17 PM |
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AHAHA Oh wow. No im just a Friend of devs that used to do security and pen-testing on his old projects. If you want proof ask the admins for IP records because im from the UK and Dev is from Florida.
Ah good to know, so which drink made you drunk enough to leave a negative on my profile ? Currently tea. Probably later will be single malt, want me to talk to you when I'm drunk enough? Well I would like a sample of that intoxicating tea you're having, oh & you dont wanna meet me when you're drunk ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I m known to break jaws. Jokes aside, do you have a good reason for leaving that negative trust ?
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elliwilli
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January 11, 2015, 04:04:37 PM |
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AHAHA Oh wow. No im just a Friend of devs that used to do security and pen-testing on his old projects. If you want proof ask the admins for IP records because im from the UK and Dev is from Florida.
Ah good to know, so which drink made you drunk enough to leave a negative on my profile ? Currently tea. Probably later will be single malt, want me to talk to you when I'm drunk enough? Well I would like a sample of that intoxicating tea you're having, oh & you dont wanna meet me when you're drunk ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I m known to break jaws. Jokes aside, do you have a good reason for leaving that negative trust ? Yeah, you are being a inconsiderate dick. Dev said that he was attending to a family member for all you know they could be terminally ill. Treat others how you wish to be treated; or did your mother not teach you any manners?
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legendster
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January 11, 2015, 04:10:09 PM |
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Yeah, you are being a inconsiderate dick. Dev said that he was attending to a family member for all you know they could be terminally ill. Treat others how you wish to be treated; or did your mother not teach you any manners?
Did you suddenly take on the role of being a moral police ? FOR ALL I KNOW, Dev was busy flying his $500 quad and posting a youtube video about it. For which I have provided links of. And I didnt leave that negative trust. As far as my mother is concerned she taught me well enough not to poke my nose in someone else's business, dev is not a damsel in distress that he requires the Knight in shining tin (you) to come and defend him. He was offline, HE WAS LATE, I said it was unprofessional and DIDNT leave him a negative rating and moved on, but from where on earth did you drop in ?
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marcotheminer
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January 11, 2015, 04:12:31 PM |
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Legendster why don't you go outside and play with your neighbour's cat? Go on. No one cares for your whining.
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legendster
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January 11, 2015, 04:15:30 PM |
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Legendster why don't you go outside and play with your neighbour's cat? Go on. No one cares for your whining.
Off course not, remind me why are you here ?
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elliwilli
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January 11, 2015, 04:17:03 PM |
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Yeah, you are being a inconsiderate dick. Dev said that he was attending to a family member for all you know they could be terminally ill. Treat others how you wish to be treated; or did your mother not teach you any manners?
Did you suddenly take on the role of being a moral police ? FOR ALL I KNOW, Dev was busy flying his $500 quad and posting a youtube video about it. For which I have provided links of. And I didnt leave that negative trust. As far as my mother is concerned she taught me well enough not to poke my nose in someone else's business, dev is not a damsel in distress that he requires the Knight in shining tin (you) to come and defend him. He was offline, HE WAS LATE, I said it was unprofessional and DIDNT leave him a negative rating and moved on, but from where on earth did you drop in ? No he does not NEED it, i just felt like you were being a undue asshole. Are you telling me you have never been late in your life, Rent/mortgage/Whatever kind of debt Im bored of you now, your arguments are not pathetic enough to be entertaining, but TBH, you seem quite insolent and already have enough neg rep on you in the first place that my non-default trust list -1 wont matter to you will it? especially seeing as you said you don't care about it. If you want to keep arguing with me then take it to PM so we dont fill up a perfectly good thread with our bickering.
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January 11, 2015, 04:25:05 PM |
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Legendster why don't you go outside and play with your neighbour's cat? Go on. No one cares for your whining.
Off course not, remind me why are you here ? Please read my post again.
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January 11, 2015, 04:27:22 PM |
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Yeah, you are being a inconsiderate dick. Dev said that he was attending to a family member for all you know they could be terminally ill. Treat others how you wish to be treated; or did your mother not teach you any manners?
Did you suddenly take on the role of being a moral police ? FOR ALL I KNOW, Dev was busy flying his $500 quad and posting a youtube video about it. For which I have provided links of. And I didnt leave that negative trust. As far as my mother is concerned she taught me well enough not to poke my nose in someone else's business, dev is not a damsel in distress that he requires the Knight in shining tin (you) to come and defend him. He was offline, HE WAS LATE, I said it was unprofessional and DIDNT leave him a negative rating and moved on, but from where on earth did you drop in ? No he does not NEED it, i just felt like you were being a undue asshole. Are you telling me you have never been late in your life, Rent/mortgage/Whatever kind of debt Im bored of you now, your arguments are not pathetic enough to be entertaining, but TBH, you seem quite insolent and already have enough neg rep on you in the first place that my non-default trust list -1 wont matter to you will it? especially seeing as you said you don't care about it. If you want to keep arguing with me then take it to PM so we dont fill up a perfectly good thread with our bickering. Being late for parties, classes and lectures is my MO. But I tend to be professional when I am handling someone else's money. Well the only credible negative on my profile is from Johnie, and that too because of his theories, another issue another topic. I was curious to find out why you even bothered. As it seems the only motivation for your negative on my profile was because I was being an ass to your friend ... while incurring a 3% value drop of my coins that he was holding in HIS wallet for 18 hours.... if you ask me I had a perfect reason to be pissed off, but was I really being an ass to him ? I leave that for others to judge. Your non default negative does not show up on my rating - YES. But it is there for utterly no reason and that bothers me. Remove that and all of this goes away ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Enjoy your tea.
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January 11, 2015, 04:32:05 PM |
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legendster, devthedev has a life. Everyone that does escrow has a life. You cannot expect them to be around 24/7. I know it sucks, but you will have to wait patiently and keep this in mind next time you use escrow. This will happen again.
Understand this that I am not lashing out because he is late. I am kinda lashing out because he went offline with an active trade online. Off course I understand this 'happens' I m not new here. I received confirmation of receipt from the other party at 04:57:06. (5 hours ago) My response time is usually under 15 minutes. However, I had an unforeseen family matter I had to take care of. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. I will not be an inconsiderate ass and give you a negative for this, but I should expect a positive feedback from you on my trust score. Whatever be the reason you made me loose 3.62% of FIAT value of the BTC you were holding. I sent you payment confirmation from my end with bank transfer screenshots 18 hours prior to your escrow release. The other party had already confirmed that he received the money within 5 minutes of the Bank transfer (it was done through instant transfer), he sent me a message confirming that he had asked you to release the payment at January 10, 2015, 10:59:14 AM. Regardless, since this was a free service I dont have much to complain about, I must give you a friendly advice however, dont go offline ever again, with an active trade in the pipeline. Thats not professional whatever be the reason. Although it seems to me you were busy flying your Parrot Bebop Drone.Good luck with your service. I might use your service again. You should not expect to receive a positive trade feedback from any particular trade, especially if things did not 100% smoothly. If your deal was priced in terms of bitcoin then you should not be complaining about the fiat value of whatever you received. Some trades can take several days to complete, especially ones involving physical goods. Trades involving the purchase of bitcoin can take several hours and the point of using his services is to not need to worry about not getting your money right away.
I can vouch that I have used dev on many occasions without any problems on his end. I have not had any transactions with him that have not gone smoothly.
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January 11, 2015, 04:32:11 PM |
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Legendster why don't you go outside and play with your neighbour's cat? Go on. No one cares for your whining.
Off course not, remind me why are you here ? Please read my post again. Read my question again, if you dont care about my 'whining' why bother responding here ?
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January 11, 2015, 04:36:16 PM |
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Legendster why don't you go outside and play with your neighbour's cat? Go on. No one cares for your whining.
Off course not, remind me why are you here ? Please read my post again. Read my question again, if you dont care about my 'whining' why bother responding here ? Just letting you know. You are making a big deal out of pretty much nothing.
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January 11, 2015, 04:48:24 PM |
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You should not expect to receive a positive trade feedback from any particular trade, especially if things did not 100% smoothly.
If your deal was priced in terms of bitcoin then you should not be complaining about the fiat value of whatever you received.
Some trades can take several days to complete, especially ones involving physical goods. Trades involving the purchase of bitcoin can take several hours and the point of using his services is to not need to worry about not getting your money right away.
I can vouch that I have used dev on many occasions without any problems on his end. I have not had any transactions with him that have not gone smoothly.
Lets take a step back and understand what you're all saying here. Its ok for dev - a trusted escrow holder to go offline for 18 hours with an active trade in the pipeline. Its ok for dev's friend to leave a negative rating on my profile for laughs and giggles. Its not ok for me to make 3 posts in 18 hours on his escrow board asking why he's late. Its NOT ok for me to be upset about the 3% loss in value of BTC which dev had in his wallet for 18 hours after I have paid for them.
I do not need to explain the nature of the Buy low sell high principle in bitcoin trade, I know you guys are well versed in that context. However, Dev is never concerned with the nature of my transaction, his role in the transaction was simply to provide safe keeping of the BTC while I and the seller made our trade. Dev fulfilled his role without question, albeit 18 hours late. I did expect a positive rating from him, I did not DEMAND it, and it was not because of the trade we were involved in; but this was because of the fact that he made me loose the relative value of my BTC in terms of fiat by not being online for a significant amount of time. He didnt leave a rating for me and neither did I. And the thing about physical goods isnt relevant here.
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January 11, 2015, 04:51:24 PM |
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Legendster why don't you go outside and play with your neighbour's cat? Go on. No one cares for your whining.
Off course not, remind me why are you here ? Please read my post again. Read my question again, if you dont care about my 'whining' why bother responding here ? Just letting you know. You are making a big deal out of pretty much nothing. I am not, I was gone from this thread merrily busy with my own stuff that was until Eli showed up. Someone leaves a neg on my profile, that is a big enough deal for me to make a li'l fuss about it. I am sure you'd be pissed if I posted a neg on your profile for no reason at all.
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January 11, 2015, 04:54:21 PM |
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I am not, I was gone from this thread merrily busy with my own stuff that was until Eli showed up. Someone leaves a neg on my profile, that is a big enough deal for me to make a li'l fuss about it. I am sure you'd be pissed if I posted a neg on your profile for no reason at all.
Then open a new thread in reputation.
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January 11, 2015, 04:57:44 PM |
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Lets take a step back and understand what you're all saying here. Its ok for dev - a trusted escrow holder to go offline for 18 hours with an active trade in the pipeline.
Yes like I said it is not uncommon for some deals to take hours to complete. Its ok for dev's friend to leave a negative rating on my profile for laughs and giggles. I don't know that person, however he is not dev and does not speak for him. The issue with the negative rating does not speak for dev. Its not ok for me to make 3 posts in 18 hours on his escrow board asking why he's late. Making more then one post or sending more then one PM is probably not going to expedite the process. Its NOT ok for me to be upset about the 3% loss in value of BTC which dev had in his wallet for 18 hours after I have paid for them. If you were expecting to receive a specific amount of bitcoin then no. If you were planning on selling that bitcoin on an exchange then you would have just used fiat to buy bitcoin which you would have sold for fiat which makes no sense (yes I know if this was the case you were probably trying to arbitrage however this is in itself risky). Unless he made a specific promise to release the escrow within a certain timeframe then you have nothing to complain about. However, Dev is never concerned with the nature of my transaction, his role in the transaction was simply to provide safe keeping of the BTC while I and the seller made our trade. Dev fulfilled his role without question, albeit 18 hours late. If that was his role then you have nothing to complain about I did expect a positive rating from him, I did not DEMAND it, I said you should not even expect it as you will probably not get feedback in every trade you participate in. and it was not because of the trade we were involved in; but this was because of the fact that he made me loose the relative value of my BTC in terms of fiat by not being online for a significant amount of time. He didnt leave a rating for me and neither did I. You are really just repeating yourself now
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