Help my C drive eating space

[Baitty]

Just backup everything and then reinstall your windows operating system I would just suggest backing up only safe and important files.

[Lethn]

I honestly don't and I don't think the cost/benefits is worth it, like I said, the larger games take longer to load because they're larger, not just because of the hard drives, maybe in a couple of years when SDD hard drives are as cheap as HDD but not now.

Go read this: http://www.storagereview.com/ssd_vs_hdd

I spotted this awhile ago actually but it explains things well, if I make money I might, just MIGHT spend money for a 1TB SSD to see how things go but I'm not holding my breath simply because of the price currently.

[Lauda]

I honestly don't and I don't think the cost/benefits is worth it, like I said, the larger games take longer to load because they're larger, not just because of the hard drives, maybe in a couple of years when SDD hard drives are as cheap as HDD but not now.

Go read this: http://www.storagereview.com/ssd_vs_hdd

I spotted this awhile ago actually but it explains things well.

Nothing special. The larger games take longer to load because the hdd's are slow.
Try loading the biggest game that you can find on an HDD then SDD then ram disk.
Cheerio.  

[LYCAN]

You're in a similar position to me, I seriously recommend saving up $1000 for a good one so you don't disappoint yourself, you'll be able to afford it if you build it yourself, it will take awhile don't get me wrong but I think it will be worth it for sure, you can get a cheaper one but you'll find yourself frustrated at having to deal with FPS drops and stuff all over again depending on the game you play.

so waht will be your recommendation ? any specs with prices.

[bluefirecorp]

Your logic is beyond me.
120gb SSD = $54 http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-2-5-Inch-SV300S37A-120G/dp/B00A1ZTZOG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406284465&sr=8-1&keywords=120gb+ssd
3TB HDD = 107$ http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desktop/dp/B004RORMF6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1406284454&sr=8-3&keywords=3TB
At least when you're comparing products compare ones in the right price range.

240gb SSD is enough for your main drive (way more than what you actually need).

That WD 3 TB drive would be absolute shit to use as a drive. 5400 RPM. It'll take a week to boot your computer with that after everything is loaded.

Also, we didn't even calculate power usage. Less than 1 watt for an SSD vs 10 watts for an hdd. Easily 10x the electricity usage!

Also it is more like 190$ for a good 3TB HDD : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2UWTHE/ref=twister_B00DI12GSM
Which is almost in the price range of a 480gb SSD.
If you get the right software and check the work hours of your HDD, you will see that this 9watt difference is a lot.

Oh, you wanna talk about good HDDs, let's take a look at more enterprise/fast drives. For a proper 600 GB SAS drive, you're looking closer to ~$300.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148617&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

That's actually a damned good deal for that drive. Last year, they were closer to $400 each.

It will make a difference but not as much as you're suggesting, games developers have a nasty habit of just putting as much junk and shit as they can without taking into account what it will do with peoples computers, don't get me started on the bloatware DRM that they throw in. Why do you think games like Skyrim work really well compared to other games? It's because they took the time to make sure things work for the most part despite the bugs and glitches in the game, unfortunately there are so few modern examples I can give because of the complete lack of optimisation in games now.

Battlefield 4 is a classic example because they threw tons of physics into that game and lots and lots of particles/polygons so that forces the computer to work a lot harder which is why only high end computers can realistically run it at a comfortable pace and it takes so fucking long to load.

Skyrim as your example? Are you drunk? Look up comparisons in loading times. Also, bloatware DRM? Are you fucking serious. 1 MB file = total bloatware.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Absolutely no idea. Seriously, now physics are using the disk rather than the CPU / video card?

You probably think you mine BTC with storage too, right?

I honestly don't and I don't think the cost/benefits is worth it, like I said, the larger games take longer to load because they're larger, not just because of the hard drives, maybe in a couple of years when SDD hard drives are as cheap as HDD but not now.

Go read this: http://www.storagereview.com/ssd_vs_hdd

I spotted this awhile ago actually but it explains things well, if I make money I might, just MIGHT spend money for a 1TB SSD to see how things go but I'm not holding my breath.

That site kinda proves our point more. The only thing they have going from them is cost / GB which is nullified about after a year anyway (due to differences in power usage).

[Lauda]

Also it is more like 190$ for a good 3TB HDD : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2UWTHE/ref=twister_B00DI12GSM
Which is almost in the price range of a 480gb SSD.
If you get the right software and check the work hours of your HDD, you will see that this 9watt difference is a lot.

Oh, you wanna talk about good HDDs, let's take a look at more enterprise/fast drives. For a proper 600 GB SAS drive, you're looking closer to ~$300.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148617&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
That's actually a damned good deal for that drive. Last year, they were closer to $400 each.

It will make a difference but not as much as you're suggesting, games developers have a nasty habit of just putting as much junk and shit as they can without taking into account what it will do with peoples computers, don't get me started on the bloatware DRM that they throw in. Why do you think games like Skyrim work really well compared to other games? It's because they took the time to make sure things work for the most part despite the bugs and glitches in the game, unfortunately there are so few modern examples I can give because of the complete lack of optimisation in games now.

Battlefield 4 is a classic example because they threw tons of physics into that game and lots and lots of particles/polygons so that forces the computer to work a lot harder which is why only high end computers can realistically run it at a comfortable pace and it takes so fucking long to load.

Skyrim as your example? Are you drunk? Look up comparisons in loading times. Also, bloatware DRM? Are you fucking serious. 1 MB file = total bloatware.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Absolutely no idea. Seriously, now physics are using the disk rather than the CPU / video card?
You probably think you mine BTC with storage too, right?

Which makes this even worse. A 480gb SSD is cheaper than that. People just don't realize this sadly.
I even missed this post. This is hilarious. So tons of physics is the reason why the game loading slowly.  

Personal:
PC (HDD): around 2.3min boot time (measured)
Laptop (SSD) - using the same programs, identical almost: 25 seconds boot time.
No, it does not make a difference at all. 

[Lethn]

You're in a similar position to me, I seriously recommend saving up $1000 for a good one so you don't disappoint yourself, you'll be able to afford it if you build it yourself, it will take awhile don't get me wrong but I think it will be worth it for sure, you can get a cheaper one but you'll find yourself frustrated at having to deal with FPS drops and stuff all over again depending on the game you play.

so waht will be your recommendation ? any specs with prices.

Buy HDD and wait for SSD's to become cheap, the foaming at the mouth fanbois in this thread are being just like anybody else who rants about some new and expensive thing >_<

bluefirecorp, you don't seem to realise that ordinary people aren't going to give a fuck about a few seconds difference, especially with the cost, get it in your skull and read what I'm saying, in fact neither of you and LaudaM are reading what I'm saying so I won't even bother posting responses to you now lol.

This always happens, you get some hype over a new piece of technology that's very expensive at first, people go giddy for it and the intelligent people just wait a year or two for the price to come down and get much better equipment for a cheaper price and better performance, seen it a million times now I think about it.

[omgbossis21]

I built this pc using the 1tb as a main drive originally.  I later ordered the ssd and installed windows on it and the difference truly is night and day.  Its honestly the best upgrade I have done hands down.  I went from a dual core e6750 2.6ghz overclocked to 3.6 to this i7 build and the difference was quite noticeable.  Things like converting movies were ridiculously faster but going from the standard mechanical drive to the ssd, now that obviously was way better!   I suppose it depends on your needs though.  With mining and using a media extender (xbox 360) I reboot on a regular basis and that boot time is drastically reduced!  Updates install in no time along with any applications I run and extracting large files (xbox 360 games@8.5gb) that are in rar files Cruises right through compared to the mechanical drive which averaged about 6 minutes to extract.  I really haven't played any games in which I had much if any wait for loading.

[LYCAN]

nah i m asking that you just say spend 1000 dollars it worth .. for gaming pc..

i want suggestion ..and dont mess guys. everyone welcome to give his opinions thnkx.

[Lethn]

nah i m asking that you just say spend 1000 dollars it worth .. for gaming pc..

i want suggestion ..and dont mess guys. everyone welcome to give his opinions thnkx.

Oh yeah, that's the kind of budget you're looking at for a really nice one, you CAN build one for $500 - $600 easily don't get me wrong, but if you want something nice which will last a long time that's the kind of budget you're looking at if you get me.

[bluefirecorp]

bluefirecorp, you don't seem to realise that ordinary people aren't going to give a fuck about a few seconds difference, especially with the cost, get it in your skull and read what I'm saying, in fact neither of you and LaudaM are reading what I'm saying so I won't even bother posting responses to you now lol.

This always happens, you get some hype over a new piece of technology that's very expensive at first, people go giddy for it and the intelligent people just wait a year or two for the price to come down and get much better equipment for a cheaper price and better performance, seen it a million times now I think about it.

Almost every build now-a-days uses an SSD. You don't seem to realize that ordinary people don't need more than 200 GB of storage space, and that they DO want their facebook machine to be on as fast as possible.

SSDs aren't new. Solid state media will eventually replace all spinning disks. It's been YEARS now that the SSDs have been out. Honestly, you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Seriously, state some of your qualifications that give you a right to talk about this subject as if you know more than actual professionals.

[omgbossis21]

Save for the better processor, like the i7.  Get a budget board that meets your needs, I choose the asus z87-a b/c it was a newer chipset and I didn't need things like the wifi.  Budget ram, shoot for 8gb+ of probably ddr3 1866.  Would definitely recommend the k series i7 so you can later overclock it a bit if you care for that.  Gaming is mostly about the gpu anyways so you would spend the most on the processor and gpu.  Wont need anything drastic on the power supply either.

[Baitty]

SSD have been around for years now and are probably the more preferred harc drives. but they can be expensive and are not fitted in the majority of machines it depends what machine you are running. A laptop is very very unlikely to have a SDD.

[bluefirecorp]

SSD have been around for years now and are probably the more preferred harc drives. but they can be expensive and are not fitted in the majority of machines it depends what machine you are running. A laptop is very very unlikely to have a SDD.

Laptop uses 2.5" form factor. Most SSDs are 2.5". Laptops are very likely to have a SSD.

[Baitty]

SSD have been around for years now and are probably the more preferred harc drives. but they can be expensive and are not fitted in the majority of machines it depends what machine you are running. A laptop is very very unlikely to have a SDD.

Laptop uses 2.5" form factor. Most SSDs are 2.5". Laptops are very likely to have a SSD.

Really? I didn't know that. I know mine does but didn't think many laptops would have them. (thanks for pointing that out).

[btmtb]

I'm much more of a fan of Hybrid SSD/spindle drives personally, you gain the performance improvement on the day-to-day tasks, without the limitation of low storage space and excessively high costs. Small SSD's are great in laptops though, less to mechanically fail throughout the bumps and bangs of day to day life, although the stock ones do always seem to be on the low end of the available drive size.

[bluefirecorp]

I'm much more of a fan of Hybrid SSD/spindle drives personally, you gain the performance improvement on the day-to-day tasks, without the limitation of low storage space and excessively high costs. Small SSD's are great in laptops though, less to mechanically fail throughout the bumps and bangs of day to day life, although the stock ones do always seem to be on the low end of the available drive size.

Except for the huge failure rates and not much of a performance benefit.

[btmtb]

I'm much more of a fan of Hybrid SSD/spindle drives personally, you gain the performance improvement on the day-to-day tasks, without the limitation of low storage space and excessively high costs. Small SSD's are great in laptops though, less to mechanically fail throughout the bumps and bangs of day to day life, although the stock ones do always seem to be on the low end of the available drive size.

Except for the huge failure rates and not much of a performance benefit.

The stats disagree with you.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/150004-seagate-launches-new-hybrid-hard-drive-that-closes-the-ssd-gap-drops-momentus-xt-brand

It's certainly enough of a performance benefit that it made a notable different in day to day use when I introduced them. No failures yet amongst ~100 or so drives, but only 12 months in.

[Lauda]

I'm much more of a fan of Hybrid SSD/spindle drives personally, you gain the performance improvement on the day-to-day tasks, without the limitation of low storage space and excessively high costs. Small SSD's are great in laptops though, less to mechanically fail throughout the bumps and bangs of day to day life, although the stock ones do always seem to be on the low end of the available drive size.

Except for the huge failure rates and not much of a performance benefit.

The stats disagree with you.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/150004-seagate-launches-new-hybrid-hard-drive-that-closes-the-ssd-gap-drops-momentus-xt-brand

It's certainly enough of a performance benefit that it made a notable different in day to day use when I introduced them. No failures yet amongst ~100 or so drives, but only 12 months in.

These are no stats, just a few useless graphs.
8 gb cache can't replace a full SDD, no way. This is just marketing, I wanna see tests.

[Malin Keshar]

Reinstall windows. Might be that you lost control over your files and updates and blockchains and etc and they just eat all of your space, or a virus. I wouldn't try to gamble the options.

Learn to have a separate partition to personal files and blockchains, so you can have more clue about what is going on if that happens again.

Use ccleaner and run antivirus stuff, and be carefull and trust no one.