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July 25, 2014, 02:09:26 PM
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Hello,

Just want to see other peoples thoughts on this.. something to worry about?

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/proposed-bitcoin-regulation-bitlicense-shut-mining-bitcoin-businesses-us/2014/07/20
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July 25, 2014, 02:15:14 PM
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Niot unless you're a miner. It wont effect the rest of us or  the network if thats what you're worried about.
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July 25, 2014, 02:16:00 PM
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 Grin yes, shutdown the pools ... like server on P2P file sharing.
and then, personal node (with low miner powered) can win 25BTC  Cheesy
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July 25, 2014, 02:30:01 PM
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Grin yes, shutdown the pools ... like server on P2P file sharing.
and then, personal node (with low miner powered) can win 25BTC  Cheesy


And a private node from some arabic country can win most of the coins and 51% attack the network.

It may be a strategic problem with future consequences that we may not directly relate to this, since US in really strong in the network, and less hash power = less powerfull and vulnerable to attack bitcoin network.
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July 25, 2014, 02:58:03 PM
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ooooh, please ... don't compare a pool and a solo-miner.
51% is possible because of the pools ...

you can't do a real 51% without a heavy costly line (only available) on datacenter.
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July 25, 2014, 03:55:37 PM
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Yep a major mining pool out of Vegas put up notice in 45 days they may close due to new NY State reg's

Look at node map of the world btc network

USA btc nodes mine more than any region

Next is Europe in total nodes

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July 25, 2014, 04:31:39 PM
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Any regulations that don't ban Bitcoin are great.  It still early days yet
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July 25, 2014, 04:34:11 PM
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Grin yes, shutdown the pools ... like server on P2P file sharing.
and then, personal node (with low miner powered) can win 25BTC  Cheesy
IF we shutdown pools then it will be easier to attempt a 51% attack as less people would have the capital to mine with enough hashrate to make it so they ever earn a reward, so the network difficulty would be lowered.
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July 25, 2014, 04:53:00 PM
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Haters gonna hate.

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July 25, 2014, 06:07:50 PM
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This is a weird thread. You want us to comment in this thread about an article summarizing another Bitcointalk thread. Why not just go directly to the thread to comment?

Go here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg7900799#msg7900799
 

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July 28, 2014, 05:44:53 AM
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Really? Is this a thing?. Regulated bitcoin? Sad.

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July 28, 2014, 09:24:58 AM
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Really? Is this a thing?. Regulated bitcoin? Sad.

It's only a thing if you want it to be.
Otherwise it's just a bunch of hot air. Like piracy laws.

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July 28, 2014, 10:20:13 AM
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How many times do I have to say this everyone? It would only be yourself to be at blame for willing to comply with it. There is no way to enforce this unless you willingly comply. To comply or enforce is to be just as guilty as the one whom created that tyrannical law. For a law is no law if no one complies with it, or enforces it. The legal system no longer has legitimacy or credibility. And anyone whom thinks otherwise is a fool and blind to current state of the world and how it works.

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July 28, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
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For those concerned, bitcoin is already highly regulated. It is a self regulated protocol. I have said, if this becomes law I will push forth an agenda to open up an illegal bitcoin exchange out of retalliation in NY. Government is only panicing right now because it realizes that crypto technology is a threat to the existence and power of corrupt government. And so government is doing everything it can to suppress technology.

Solution: Do not comply.
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July 28, 2014, 10:24:35 AM
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lawsky and bitlicense need to be stopped  Angry
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July 28, 2014, 06:06:22 PM
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Definitely yes.

Of course, you can just ignore it if you're a regular person who just uses bitcoin. But for anyone who built/intend to build a serious business around bitcoin - this is a bad news.

Then again, you can just start your business elsewhere and avoid new yorkers, but other states/countries can go the same route.

Hopefully this regulation will not go through in it's current shape.

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July 28, 2014, 06:10:30 PM
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lets end the fud worry

bitlicence = new york
miner in article=navada.

moving on

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July 28, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
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lets end the fud worry

bitlicence = new york
miner in article=navada.

moving on

If it was only that simple... Are you familiar with TVShack's case? Basically, the British guy, operating a website from UK (servers in Netherlands) didn't break any UK law, but still was facing extradition to US. No one can guarantee the same cannot happen with BTC exchange or mining pool.

Link to the article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-18266805

Eventually it didn't end up that bad for him (could've been worse):

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/07/tvshack_fine/

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July 28, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
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Hello,

Just want to see other peoples thoughts on this.. something to worry about?

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/proposed-bitcoin-regulation-bitlicense-shut-mining-bitcoin-businesses-us/2014/07/20
The best response to this hostile-takeover of a "regulation" was given by Bruce Fenton, in a speech you can watch here.

The TL:DR version is - Fuck Ben Lawsky and his insanely out-of-touch bank-takeover regulations. It will leave New York completely out of the Bitcoin scene. I feel sorry for every Bitcoin entrepreneur that is a New York resident right now.

I'm glad I simply dumped all my savings in, rather than trying to start a business in this fucked up, corrupt ass state. The banksters own New York City and New York State. And they're rightfully terrified of Bitcoin.

Remember Aaron Swartz, a 26 year old computer scientist who died defending the free flow of information.
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July 28, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
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lets end the fud worry

bitlicence = new york
miner in article=navada.

moving on

If it was only that simple... Are you familiar with TVShack's case? Basically, the British guy, operating a website from UK (servers in Netherlands) didn't break any UK law, but still was facing extradition to US. No one can guarantee the same cannot happen with BTC exchange or mining pool.

Link to the article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-18266805

Eventually it didn't end up that bad for him (could've been worse):

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/07/tvshack_fine/

thats because linking an american copyrighted product makes it american jurisdiction as the tv shows company is american.

but bitcoin has no country. so bitcoin is not based in new york, those new york rules dont apply to navada

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