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May 03, 2011, 01:38:17 AM
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Looking to buy 600$ worth of BTC from trusted person at 3.40$/BTC or Best Offer
Like title says. Must be trusted if you want me to pay 1st (Web of Trust and forum, ie: AFAIK Keefe, mndrix and stuff like that are VERY trusted)
I'd like this to be ASAP so Best Offer
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redsun (OP)
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May 03, 2011, 01:51:00 AM |
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Some people have asked me if I was the same person as RedSun from BiddingPond. I am not. I have only just started using bitcoins
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May 03, 2011, 01:53:13 AM |
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Upped the price
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May 03, 2011, 01:56:39 AM |
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I'm sorry, My only method of payment is Paypal I can pay with Payment owed however (equivalent to gift)
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Garrett Burgwardt
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May 03, 2011, 01:58:45 AM |
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Ah, then good luck.
Without trust, it is hard to find a seller because of the risk of chargebacks.
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May 03, 2011, 02:00:14 AM |
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I'm sorry, My only method of payment is Paypal I can pay with Payment owed however (equivalent to gift)
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May 03, 2011, 02:07:22 AM |
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New motto for Paypal : "Paypal, the money preferred by scammers around the world"  redsun : not joking on you |
If you don't own the private keys, you don't own the coins.
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May 03, 2011, 02:11:35 AM |
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sad but true
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May 03, 2011, 02:30:22 AM |
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How safe are amazon gift cards? Can the sender "chargeback" a gift card (eg, use the code before I do, or otherwise steal it)?
If gift cards are safe, I'd sell you 50 BTC for an amazon gc. I'd want to use clearcoin.
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redsun (OP)
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May 03, 2011, 02:53:19 AM |
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I thought it was impossible to chargeback with payment owed? Please advise me how to send $$ without chargebacks being an option
Please note I only have PPUSD
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May 03, 2011, 02:56:08 AM |
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where are you located?
In person might work.
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redsun (OP)
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May 03, 2011, 03:01:10 AM |
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too much work... I'm in Montreal
I really thought payment owed was impossible to chargeback.... so far everything I've sold I've been payed with that and never had problems
there are no credit card or banks associated with my account so I cant cancel the transaction
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May 03, 2011, 05:19:43 AM |
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I read through the legal stuff at the paypal site. From what I can tell, buyers are not eligible for "purchase protection," aka paypal dispute resolution, aka chargebacks, when purchasing bitcoin. It seems to me that bitcoin falls under the "intangible items," the "items equivelant to cash," or the "personal payments" categories. When using "personal payments" the seller has to chose the "personal" tab.
Speaking to the buyer: "PayPal will generally not find in your favor if you escalate a Dispute to a Claim for an item which is not eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection."
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Paypal User Agreement, 13.3.
Based on what I've read on these forums, Paypal is a no go for sellers, but based on what I read at the paypal site, I'm not sure why that is. If sellers choose the 'personal payments" option, aren't they protected? Does paypal not enforce it's own rules?
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May 03, 2011, 05:41:21 AM |
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If a scammer uses a stolen PayPal account to make a payment, I'm pretty sure the account owner can report the payment as unauthorized and get it reversed regardless of the payment method.
Or perhaps a scammer links a PayPal account they create to someone else's bank account or credit card and the account owner reverses the transaction.
Or perhaps they just call PayPal with a story like "My kid made this transaction when I was away from the computer" and get away with it.
The Bitcoin community has seen a lot of PayPal-based scamming in the past.
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May 03, 2011, 12:32:35 PM |
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this guy is obviously a scammer, do not deal with
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redsun (OP)
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May 03, 2011, 02:22:20 PM |
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not a scammer, I SPECIFICALLY asked of any ways to ensure fair trade
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Ian Maxwell
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May 03, 2011, 02:48:31 PM |
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Redsun: The problem you're running into is that Paypal is really terrible. Large stores like Amazon can live with the terribleness because they're rich enough to absorb a few chargebacks and big enough to prosecute fraud internationally. Most people here don't have those advantages.
See if your bank does ACH direct deposit to other accounts---that's a bit more reliable.
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