Israel has already won, the Palestinians must surrender to avert a disaster

[Chef Ramsay]

Hamas and North Korea in secret arms deal
Exclusive: Hamas has paid North Korea for missiles and communications equipment in arms deal worth hundreds of thousands of dollars

Hamas militants are attempting to negotiate a new arms deal with North Korea for missiles and communications equipment that will allow them to maintain their offensive against Israel, according to Western security sources.

Security officials say the deal between Hamas and North Korea is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and is being handled by a Lebanese-based trading company with close ties to the militant Palestinian organisation based in east Beirut.

Hamas officials are believed to have already made an initial cash down payment to secure the deal, and are now hoping that North Korea will soon begin shipping extra supplies of weapons to Gaza.
 
“Hamas is looking for ways to replenish its stocks of missiles because of the large numbers it has fired at Israel in recent weeks,” explained a security official. “North Korea is an obvious place to seek supplies because Pyongyang already has close ties with a number of militant Islamist groups in the Middle East.”

More...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10992921/Hamas-and-North-Korea-in-secret-arms-deal.html

[hologram]

O and all the Jews, women and children were justifiable Nazi military targets

[Starscream]

And in WW2 resistant targeted soldiers not civilian...

Your argument implies, the Jews that were exterminated in WW2 by the Nazi were not civilians, they must have been terrorists .

Do you see how insane all this is, you can call it by any name you like what Israel is doing in Palestine is the same thing its genocide

Are you fuckin stupid on purpose to just born that way?
His argument implies that whoever resisted the nazi targeted military personal and facilities, not civilians.

And you are shooting yourself in the leg with this whole genocide bullshit, it's not happening, and you spamming that crap all over the place doesn't make it any more real.

O and all the Jews, women and children were justifiable Nazi military targets

Oh wow, you can't even read, that explains a lot.

[Starscream]

Forget it hologram, he can't even comprehend a simple English sentence.

It's like arguing with a potato.

[hologram]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10992921/Hamas-and-North-Korea-in-secret-arms-deal.html

WTF ?

@starscream

Maybe he have a problem with history.

[Tusk]

When 3 Israeli go missing it gives the justification to slaughter over 800 Palestinians  
When your family is indiscriminately blown to smitheries you must not attempt to defend those that survive because it makes you a terrorist
When over 5 million Palestinians live in exile those that remain must not resist the illegal occupation of their land because it makes them terrorists  
When your people are driven into ghettos and the boarders are closed you may not resist the oppression or you are terrorists  
If you dig tunnels to escape or smuggle in fuel and supplies you are terrorists  


I beg to differ, resisting the Nazi Occupation by the terrorist sate of Israel does not make the oppressed terrorists

it doesn't make them terrorists, it makes them stupid.
what you call resisting is actually committing suicide, you don't resist an army that has jet fighters with ak47's.

If Might is Right, you are condoning what the Jews suffered at the hands of the Nazi extermination camps Are you really that retarded  

I'm not condoning anything, I'm saying that fighting a war you have no chance of winning is stupid, no matter who you are.

Standing up to tyranny despite how grim the prospect, is a noble virtue, To defend your property is justifiable.  

lol...
Israel is a tyranny, Syria and Iran are the democracies that are here to free the people.

Let me get my tinfoil hat.

When did I defend Syria or Iran Please do not try associate my opinion of Israel as support for other dictatorships. I happen to despise them equally. You should include Saudi Arabia on that list.

[west420]

Hamas and North Korea in secret arms deal
Exclusive: Hamas has paid North Korea for missiles and communications equipment in arms deal worth hundreds of thousands of dollars

Hamas militants are attempting to negotiate a new arms deal with North Korea for missiles and communications equipment that will allow them to maintain their offensive against Israel, according to Western security sources.

Security officials say the deal between Hamas and North Korea is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and is being handled by a Lebanese-based trading company with close ties to the militant Palestinian organisation based in east Beirut.

Hamas officials are believed to have already made an initial cash down payment to secure the deal, and are now hoping that North Korea will soon begin shipping extra supplies of weapons to Gaza.
 
“Hamas is looking for ways to replenish its stocks of missiles because of the large numbers it has fired at Israel in recent weeks,” explained a security official. “North Korea is an obvious place to seek supplies because Pyongyang already has close ties with a number of militant Islamist groups in the Middle East.”

More...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10992921/Hamas-and-North-Korea-in-secret-arms-deal.html

I don't understand how either NK got the weapons out of their country, nor how Hammas got the weapons into Palestine. Both countries have blockaids against them.

[TrailingComet]

Don't know about that
Seems much more likely that Israel will win virtually every battle but lose the war

[Swordsoffreedom]

Perhaps a change of culture and mentality is required
That said the burning tension between these two groups pretty much narrows the field of negotiation but through blood and arms one way or another some sort of solution may be found.
Pretty much when one or both sides have had enough of these wars and do something else an absolute to solve it once and for all.

We can look at the Philippines and the Muslims there for example as one possible solution with the Moro insurgency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_insurgency_in_the_Philippines

On January 24, 2014, Philippine government chief negotiator Miriam Coronel Ferer and MILF chief negotiator Mohagher Iqbal signed a peace agreement in Kuala Lumpur. The agreement would pave the way for the creation of the new Muslim autonomous entity called "Bangsamoro" under a law to be approved by the Philippine Congress. The government aims to set up the region by 2016. The agreement calls for Muslim self-rule in parts of the southern Philippines in exchange for a deactivation of rebel forces by the MILF. MILF forces would turn over their firearms to a third party to be selected by the MILF and the Philippine government. A regional police force would be established, and the Philippine military would reduce the presence of troops and help disband private armies in the area.

That was 45 years in the making.
(And yes in before the MILF references to something else MoFo's  )

[hologram]

if the palestinians surrender it just goes back to how it was before with israel controlling the land and sea borders and airspace and continuing to expel palestinians on the west bank to make way for jewish settlers

the resistance will be victorious only when the lives of ordinary israelis are made miserable enough that they begin to regard the occupation as no longer worthwhile and elect leaders who want to make peace
that means more rocket fire and more dead idf soldiers

its easier to destroy the morale of israelis who are rich american and european jews used to living in luxury than that of the palestinians who have always had nothing

Palestinian can accept a fair two state solution, but people like you prefer dead Palestinian...

[NapoleonBonaparte]

the Palestinians can not beat Israel militarily, there is no point in continuing to fight a war they can not win.
they must realize their land has been taken by an enemy much stronger than them, cut their loses, and negotiate an unconditional surrender.

every day this war goes on more Palestinians are dying for nothing.

Yes. They should make rational choice and surrender.

Problem is, the conflict is being financed and supported by neighbor countries. And they don't really care if Palestinians suffer.

[hologram]

Yes. They should make rational choice and surrender.

Problem is, the conflict is being financed and supported by neighbor countries. And they don't really care if Palestinians suffer.

Arab league is the problem...

[redskins49]

Don't know about that
Seems much more likely that Israel will win virtually every battle but lose the war

Why would they lose the war? They have a very advanced military, much of the western world is behind them. Haamas does not have any of this and generally are regarded as terrorists, their only ally is North Korea.

[hdbuck]

LMAO the fucktard nazi boy created a whole thread about his inhuman conception of peace and human rights. But he changed his wording to hide his truly disgusting nature..

the israeli's have already won, the palestinians must cut their loses and surrender unconditionally or face potential genocide.

like a said, GFY you brainwashed idiot.
this is a bitcoin forum not some isreali propaganda blog.

[hdbuck]

I beg to differ, resisting the Nazi Occupation by the terrorist sate of Israel does not make the oppressed terrorists

french resistants, during the nazi occupation, were referred as terrorists too... did they stop fighting? me no think so.
fuckin semantics, that israeli propaganda justified a 60 years butchery and invasion with only 2 words: terrorist & antisemite.

[Robert Paulson]

LMAO the fucktard nazi boy created a whole thread about his inhuman conception of peace and human rights. But he changed his wording to hide his truly disgusting nature..

the israeli's have already won, the palestinians must cut their loses and surrender unconditionally or face potential genocide.

like a said, GFY you brainwashed idiot.
this is a bitcoin forum not some isreali propaganda blog.

what do you want from me, im simply stating facts. there is a possibility that if the palestinians dont surrender israel will end up killing everyone of them.

continuing to fight a suicide war is not rational, they must put their pride aside and surrender to save themself.

[kuroman]

When 3 Israeli go missing it gives the justification to slaughter over 800 Palestinians  

Actually,it is a response for the constant rocket fire and terror attacks on Israel

Are you being serious ? at least be partial before making judgment and check the chronology of events, Israel attacked 2-3 Gaza, breaking prisoner exchange deal with Hamas, killed Hamas members and bombing Gaza before the rocket started firing, and all this happened between the 12 and 19 of June.

Also the death numbers are reaching 1200 and more to come, but yes one side can do whatever they want as they are protected and no one dare to take real measures against them.

[Robert Paulson]

Also the death numbers are reaching 1200 and more to come, but yes one side can do whatever they want as they are protected and no one dare to take real measures against them.

Israel is protected politically by the United States, which is exactly why the Palestinians need to put their freaking pride aside and surrender.
the Israeli's are too strong both militarily and politically, there is no scenario where this ends well for the Palestinians.

[hologram]

Israel is protected politically by the United States

And soon by China. China is smart and bet on the good horse.

[kuroman]

Also the death numbers are reaching 1200 and more to come, but yes one side can do whatever they want as they are protected and no one dare to take real measures against them.

Israel is protected politically by the United States, which is exactly why the Palestinians need to put their freaking pride aside and surrender.
the Israeli's are too strong both militarily and politically, there is no scenario where this ends well for the Palestinians.

So they should surrender and do what? die? I don't understand why people can trow words like surrender on other people, no they have one choice it is resistance, for now the majority of palestinian people are going with peaceful resistance, with some groups fighting but if Israel keeps killing civilians as they do things might change and more palestinians will take arms, and I hope that would never happens.
Resistance is a fundamental right, and there is no other choice for Palestinians, unless you are willing and you have the political power to split your own country with the Palestinians, so Israel can has all the land, and the Palestinians has a place where to live, but I doubt you'll anybody has an inch of your country

Palestinian can accept a fair two state solution, but people like you prefer dead Palestinian...

Palestinians are willing to accept a two state solution, it's Israel that undermine any peace solution and refuses to accept UN resolutions and La Haye supreme court orders and keeps doing illegal activities, from building illegal settelement and kicking out people out of their land, to killing civilians and imprisoning people without trial.....ect