Bitcoin vs. War: Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars?

[inBitweTrust]

Interesting thought experiment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDk62HApDa8

[keithers]

Never.   For those at the top, life is life a game of Monopoly where they are trying to control as much as possible.  War is very profitable for a lot of companies as well...

The elimination of organized religion would have a better shot at eliminating war than BTC.

[inBitweTrust]

No, nothing will end war ever.

The thought experiment is talking about reducing war or preventing war in many cases (Not ending ALL war). Watch the video, it is very interesting.

It is akin to the fact that while outright slavery is largely illegal and universally viewed as morally reprehensible, yet it still occurs in certain parts of Africa for chocolate or diamonds. Wars might become rare and difficult to fund with less Fiat control.

[ChuckBuck]

War has been going on for centuries on end.  Whether it be through religion, politics, gold, oil, slavery, etc...

Bitcoin, a fledgling cryptocurrency in it's 5 year of existence...no way in hell!

[franky1]

bitcoin is not physical to slap someone across the face, to pull a trigger, to place handcuffs on someone, or atleast tell someone to stop.

so even if bitcoin sorts out money. people will still fight over land, food, many other things. so although bitcoin is good, it cannot solve everything.

in short
you cant wedge a bitcoin down the barrel of a tank to prevent it firing

[inBitweTrust]

bitcoin is not physical to slap someone across the face, to pull a trigger, to place handcuffs on someone, or atleast tell someone to stop.

so even if bitcoin sorts out money. people will still fight over land, food, many other things. so although bitcoin is good, it cannot solve everything.

in short
you cant wedge a bitcoin down the barrel of a tank to prevent it firing

Some historians suggest that nuclear armament has been beneficial in dissuading large wars from occurring at least between the nation states who are armed because the costs to fund them and consequences make it suicide for everyone involved. so nuclear armed countries mainly only indirectly fund small battles by proxy or conduct economic war against each other instead.

Just like with the invention of nukes, bitcoin could make the political and practical costs of raising money for large wars difficult.
The thought experiment is if Bitcoin becomes much more pervasive than nation states will have to raise funding for war directly through property tax, sales tax , and VAT rather than indirectly though War bonds and inflation. Few people would be willing to directly pay for these wars and may revolt when they see that they are paying 50 cents more for a loaf of bread in order to bring freedom to another country by dropping bombs on children.

[trans4mist]

No, nothing will end war ever.

Not with that kind of thinking...

I know it is discouraging to know we have been fighting for so long over so little, because of this trend it may seem like it's just the natural way for men but that really isn't the case. There have been several civilizations who were peaceful enough to sort out their differences without anyone getting hurt; we've had war, but we have also had peace.

Will Bitcoin end war? Bitcoin on its own can never end war, but we can.

"Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment" ~Nikola Tesla

[Meuh6879]

i prefer this version (with many subtitles) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joITmEr4SjY

[inBitweTrust]

War has been going on for centuries on end.  Whether it be through religion, politics, gold, oil, slavery, etc...

Bitcoin, a fledgling cryptocurrency in it's 5 year of existence...no way in hell!

Yes, its idealistic. Yes, war will probably persist to a certain degree for a long time in the future.... but its this idealism and moral standard we have to pursue to get 90-98% to our goal. The persistence and idealism of the abolitionists when they only constituted 2% of the US population is the reason why slavery is almost completely eliminated.(and slavery had existed in almost every culture and time period before then.)

[rogerwilco]

Most people don't understand the economics of war, so instead they assume large hordes of people just start slaughtering each other for any reason and for free.

But the truth is that war is far less sustainable under honest money. This "problem" dates all the way back to the ancient Greeks, who could only keep the wars going as long as they debased their gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdSq5H7awi8

You can't mix copper with a bitcoin. If the future runs on crypto, warmongering statists are going to have a much tougher time duping their would-be pawns into fighting each other.

[cbeast]

Satoshi is Captain Kirk in "A Taste of Armageddon."

We need to sacrifice, conserve, ration, and hear about the wars on a daily basis. That is the price we must pay to wage war. It doesn't taste as good as a cafe mochachino at the mall food court bought with money borrowed from our great grandchildren.

[twiifm]

Funny how I criticized this Molyneux guy few months ago and everyone was offended.    Now skepticism towards this bitcoin stops war theory? LOL 

[dKingston]

No it does not. Being violent, greed and the lust for power to rule over others is embeeded in our genes. Leaders will always find a way to start a war. Bitcoin can be even a cause of  war in the future. Anything that has value can cause a war and bitcoin is one of them.

[cbeast]

If we get rid of money printing presses, then kings or parliaments that want to commit these atrocities must ask their subjects to donate their savings to do so. A nation willing to commit atrocities wholeheartedly is easier to deal with by the world courts. Maybe there are alternatives to bloodshed.

Too many nations have become lazy. They enter wars with no sacrifice. The leader declares a vendetta and borrows the money from future generations. This is irresponsible behavior and these countries do not deserve what Bitcoin can provide. The nations of the future that adopt Bitcoin will be immune from tyranny because their assets will be beyond the reach of mere politicians.

Only leaders able to gain the support of their constituents will be able to aggregate capital for the will of the people. These future nations will be successful and worthy of their status and power. However long it takes, one day Bitcoin or its offspring will foster maturity and stewardship to nations and the world.

I missed these discussions.

[mrcashking]

As long as any form of money exist there will always be wars.

[eledefe]

“The coming of the wireless era will make war impossible. There will be no wars anymore.”(Guglielmo Marconi, 1912)

[Kprawn]

Why do everyone want to use Bitcoin as a remedy for everything? People make war, not bitcoin. Fiat control elimination, will only stop one of the reasons, why people make war with each other.

Bitcoin will solve one thing, and that is the decentralized control of people money, but governments will still control the way it is used. {Regulation & Laws}

So solve the other 1000's of reasons why people make war, and the world would be a better place for all. 

[rhino34567]

It's never going to happen. Humans, by nature, fight for stuff they want regardless of whether they deserve it or not. It's just going to stay like that. "War never changes."

[Bejkn]

not interesting that is a very serious issue

[transient858]

Nothing will change. Why will bitcoin reduce war?