Bitcoin vs. War: Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars?

[segvec]

Bitcoin can also be bad too as terrorists can move around funds with ease, anonymously.

[inBitweTrust]

Bitcoin can also be bad too as terrorists can move around funds with ease, anonymously.

Sure, Bitcoin and fiat can both be used for good and evil. Fiat can be spent just as anonymously as Bitcoin or more so.

The difference between the two though is with fiat citizens are forced to pay for murder, torture, and terrorism and with Bitcoin states, gangs, terrorists, and corrupt individuals cannot support their unethical actions by socializing those costs across the whole population.

[cbeast]

Bitcoin can also be bad too as terrorists can move around funds with ease, anonymously.

Sure, Bitcoin and fiat can both be used for good and evil. Fiat can be spent just as anonymously as Bitcoin or more so.

The difference between the two though is with fiat citizens are forced to pay for murder, torture, and terrorism and with Bitcoin states, gangs, terrorists, and corrupt individuals cannot support their unethical actions by socializing those costs across the whole population.

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[bitnanigans]

As long as humans live, war will continue, because there will always be conflict. War never changes.

[bornil267645]

I don't think it can. For me I think it might be rather opposite due to its anonymity prospect.

[cbeast]

As long as humans live, war will continue, because there will always be conflict. War never changes.

War can be bloodless and cold.
"Every battle is won before it's ever fought." - Sun Tzu

[Ruthful]

Demanding war and socializing the costs is one thing, but what would happen if everyone used Bitcoin instead of Government fiat, and thus governments would need to propose legislation to fund a war through bonds or taxes instead of simply inflating the monetary supply? From what I understand about human nature we tend to be selfish and hypocrites who prefer other people to pay for our wishes and often have higher priorities than war to spend our bitcoins on.

Some are the biggest war happening right now are by the people consent and support(the war on terror eg).I'm pretty sure if the government ask for donation to invade another alleged terrorist harboring country, large swath of the public would gladly donate their bitcoin for it.

[inBitweTrust]

Some are the biggest war happening right now are by the people consent and support(the war on terror eg).I'm pretty sure if the government ask for donation to invade another alleged terrorist harboring country, large swath of the public would gladly donate their bitcoin for it.

Sure, many support the "war of terror" but humans tend to be hypocrites.  The amount of donations people would choose to make would amount to the amount of donations people make to politicians for fundraising which would be a small fraction of the amount these wars actually cost.

[Beliathon]

No, but we can. Empathy can.

[Kimowa]

Bitcoin can also be bad too as terrorists can move around funds with ease, anonymously.

Sure, Bitcoin and fiat can both be used for good and evil. Fiat can be spent just as anonymously as Bitcoin or more so.

The difference between the two though is with fiat citizens are forced to pay for murder, torture, and terrorism and with Bitcoin states, gangs, terrorists, and corrupt individuals cannot support their unethical actions by socializing those costs across the whole population.

Sure they can. People need to pay taxes with bitcoin related income the same say they need to pay taxes on fiat related income.

[sidhujag]

U put two types of ppl together and they will always fight.. Even if they are family. There are just a bunch of dooches out there that dont really think things thru properly before emotions get the best of them. So extrapolating there will be wars just because of the sheer number of douches and hogh chance of govt officials being them

[Ruthful]

Sure, many support the "war of terror" but humans tend to be hypocrites.  The amount of donations people would choose to make would amount to the amount of donations people make to politicians for fundraising which would be a small fraction of the amount these wars actually cost.

I beg to differ,the amount raised could easily dwarf any standard political fundraiser by a large margin.The same sentiment that motivate people to willingly kill and die in  a foreign land for a cause they believed in would similarly drive people to sacrifice material wealth for it, especially if they couldn't be there themselves for some reason("your money keep these heroes alive.You are their armour." mantra) .

I'd imagine they could be something like crowdfounding event:"We need to meet this goal of donation to keep this much boot on the ground/this level of offensive".

[ikydesu]

"Can Bitcoin Reduce Wars?" Maybe, but causing cyber war, it certainly!

[inBitweTrust]

Sure they can. People need to pay taxes with bitcoin related income the same say they need to pay taxes on fiat related income.

Taxes is only one method countries fund wars and one which will be increasingly difficult to collect if they don't control their currency.
Sure States will still find ways to pay for wars with VAT and sales taxes even if income taxes are more difficult to obtain, but funding wars
will be more difficult if they either have to raise taxes or sell bonds vs simply spending more.

Thus, certain wars won't be initiated, and others will be shorter and more targeted.

Here is an analogy:
Right now states have a salary they receive to accomplish an assortment of tasks. They also have a "credit card" that has no limit that they always use to help fund wars. They will continue to use and have this credit card no matter what , even if a large percentage of their population uses Bitcoin instead of their currency. Their interest rates and credit rating on their "credit card" are directly tied to the amount of insurance they have which is directly associated to the popularity of their currency over bitcoin. If they choose to run up their "credit card" without enough insurance backing them than they run a risk that their interests rates(inflation) increase to a point that less people support them and the spending power to pay for war decreases significantly.

In other words, inflation is merely another tax used to pay for wars that is imposed upon anyone who uses their currency and the more people using their currency the more taxes are brought in to pay for wars.

[james martin]

Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing.

[allthingsluxury]

I really don't see Bitcoin solving this problem, unfortunately.

[deluxeCITY]

Sure they can. People need to pay taxes with bitcoin related income the same say they need to pay taxes on fiat related income.

Taxes is only one method countries fund wars and one which will be increasingly difficult to collect if they don't control their currency.
Sure States will still find ways to pay for wars with VAT and sales taxes even if income taxes are more difficult to obtain, but funding wars
will be more difficult if they either have to raise taxes or sell bonds vs simply spending more.

This is not true. Just look at the EU. The individual countries do not control the currency (the Euro) however they do not have any issues collecting taxes when it is due.

[inBitweTrust]

This is not true. Just look at the EU. The individual countries do not control the currency (the Euro) however they do not have any issues collecting taxes when it is due.

Fair point, but have any of these countries launched a significant military attack since adopting the Euro? If they haven't, than isn't this supporting my statements?

[evok3d]

As long as human beings are conditioned and controlled by the ego, there will always be war. No asset/money/technology can stop this, unless its a brain chip that would shut down the ego and make you realize we are all but one. Now that would be something to look forward to, though hopefully we wont need the chip

OR

You can start from the a new group of children and teach them the wrong ways of war and hope that the new generation seeks alternative methods. I mean the Chinese and the dutch peacefully traded with the american Indians LONG LONG before Columbus "founded" America, yet one resulted in mass genocide, rape, torture and war  and the other in a fair partnership. So perhaps the problem are not ALL people but rather what drives their mind.

[SomethingElse]

I think Bitcoin can help lower wars. 

The truth is, we won't know for sure until it happens.