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August 01, 2014, 10:01:39 PM
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i'd also like to note that the more info that comes out about zionist shills, the more people will suspect those who are pro-israel as those shills, which might lead to more fingerpointing.
yes of course it does, and it's makes any pro-Israel a suspect, but I personally prefer to reply to and argue against their ideas with facts, rather than just pointing fingers because it's not constructive and I do believe in the fact that everyone is innocent until proven guilty
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August 02, 2014, 12:34:41 PM
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And what did they do it for, bizarre beliefs they will have a heavenly garden and 72 virgins waiting for them...

.... or maybe they just saw their children murdered whilst trying to take refuge in a UN school ?

 You and I may become suicide bombers under such circumstances - and I for one am an atheist.

A whole new generation of men with nothing to lose is being born as we speak. A whole new generation of men who are today face to face with the horror of what one man/people is capable of perpetrating upon another man/people when they are in a position of power with no accountability - ironically, in much the same way that Jews were during WW2.

Seems to me that what is occuring is that (land issues aside) Israel are attempting to break the spirit of the people of Gaza - and what Hamas is doing, in a pitiful and emasculated kind of way, is saying that their spirit will not be broken.

I don't know the solution to the problem - but I do know that were it not for the US, and were it any other nation on Earth committing the crimes against humanity that Israel are, then our Governments would be calling for military intervention to end the violence (massacre). The UK has sent in the troops on much (much) more flimsy a legitimation.

Does this make me a pro-Arab shill ? I really don't care.
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August 03, 2014, 01:02:27 AM
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I knew this shit would attract flies, looks like at least 40% of the post were from paid shills. Keep in mind, all I did was state a very clear observation without an opinion and the thread still managed to derail.
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August 03, 2014, 02:38:34 AM
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I knew this shit would attract flies, looks like at least 40% of the post were from paid shills. Keep in mind, all I did was state a very clear observation without an opinion and the thread still managed to derail.

From what I've seen, I wouldn't say you're wrong, but you have to consider a couple things: the way you framed this could have been viewed as being biased - they'll argue the other side is probably doing the same; also, you can't ignore that the situation, serious as it is, will illicit strong reactions from a lot of people - no reason to believe money is the only incentive here; they might genuinely believe what they're saying.
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August 03, 2014, 04:28:49 AM
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I knew this shit would attract flies, looks like at least 40% of the post were from paid shills. Keep in mind, all I did was state a very clear observation without an opinion and the thread still managed to derail.

From what I've seen, I wouldn't say you're wrong, but you have to consider a couple things: the way you framed this could have been viewed as being biased - they'll argue the other side is probably doing the same; also, you can't ignore that the situation, serious as it is, will illicit strong reactions from a lot of people - no reason to believe money is the only incentive here; they might genuinely believe what they're saying.
Being traders and speculators we should be able to remain objective.
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August 03, 2014, 05:56:46 AM
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I knew this shit would attract flies, looks like at least 40% of the post were from paid shills. Keep in mind, all I did was state a very clear observation without an opinion and the thread still managed to derail.

From what I've seen, I wouldn't say you're wrong, but you have to consider a couple things: the way you framed this could have been viewed as being biased - they'll argue the other side is probably doing the same; also, you can't ignore that the situation, serious as it is, will illicit strong reactions from a lot of people - no reason to believe money is the only incentive here; they might genuinely believe what they're saying.

Being traders and speculators we should be able to remain objective.

Sure, but don't forget that no one here is a machine (I think Smiley), and in these situations you're going to get a lot of people upset about it. That said, I've also noticed a lot of new accounts and even (probably bought) senior accounts suddenly show up and immediately start repeating all of the propaganda you see on the media.
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August 04, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
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Seems to me that what is occuring is that (land issues aside) Israel are attempting to break the spirit of the people of Gaza - and what Hamas is doing, in a pitiful and emasculated kind of way, is saying that their spirit will not be broken.
How can you say something like this when it is always Hamas who is keeping the war going?  If Hamas stopped attacking, the war would be over.  Israel is only attacking in retaliation.  Hamas has had plenty of chances for peace, and they always choose NOT to have it.
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August 04, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
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The problem with zionists is that not only they are hurting non jewish people, thay are also hurting jews around the world.

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August 05, 2014, 02:55:15 PM
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You need to look up JIDF you'll some interesting facts, they seems to be working overtime nowadays and properly getting a nice cheque by the end of these events .
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August 05, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
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The problem with zionists is that not only they are hurting non jewish people, thay are also hurting jews around the world.

See this is what I don't get, why is it you can blame or attack Jews worldwide for what Israel does yet you can't hold it against Muslims for what Saudi Arabia or Iran does?
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August 05, 2014, 04:00:34 PM
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The problem with zionists is that not only they are hurting non jewish people, thay are also hurting jews around the world.

See this is what I don't get, why is it you can blame or attack Jews worldwide for what Israel does yet you can't hold it against Muslims for what Saudi Arabia or Iran does?

to be fair he didn't, he said Zionists, and Zionist =/= jews, there are many decent Jews out there and I have friends that are Jews that are cool and disagrees with the massacre that Israel is doing right now
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August 05, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
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I have not noticed it. probably because i don't frequent subs like /r/worldnews and such.

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August 06, 2014, 06:09:48 AM
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Seems to me that what is occuring is that (land issues aside) Israel are attempting to break the spirit of the people of Gaza - and what Hamas is doing, in a pitiful and emasculated kind of way, is saying that their spirit will not be broken.
How can you say something like this when it is always Hamas who is keeping the war going?  If Hamas stopped attacking, the war would be over.  Israel is only attacking in retaliation.  Hamas has had plenty of chances for peace, and they always choose NOT to have it.

You're not going to understand what is happening there if you don't take into account the occupation, and the cruel conditions Israel is imposing on the Palestinians living in the occupied territories.
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August 06, 2014, 08:59:22 AM
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You're not going to understand what is happening there if you don't take into account the occupation, and the cruel conditions Israel is imposing on the Palestinians living in the occupied territories.

Hmm.. let me compare the situation.

1. Is it possible for a Muslim to live in Israel:

Ans. Yes. 20% of the Israeli population is Muslim.

2. Is it possible for a Jew to live in an Arab nation?

Ans. No. There are no Jews in Arab nations.
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August 06, 2014, 10:31:51 AM
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You're not going to understand what is happening there if you don't take into account the occupation, and the cruel conditions Israel is imposing on the Palestinians living in the occupied territories.

Hmm.. let me compare the situation.

1. Is it possible for a Muslim to live in Israel:

Ans. Yes. 20% of the Israeli population is Muslim.

2. Is it possible for a Jew to live in an Arab nation?

Ans. No. There are no Jews in Arab nations.

So, do you think we need to go back 3000 years with this to get a basic understanding of the situation, or should we just recognize that when you oppress people, they aren't going to like it?
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August 06, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
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You're not going to understand what is happening there if you don't take into account the occupation, and the cruel conditions Israel is imposing on the Palestinians living in the occupied territories.

Hmm.. let me compare the situation.

1. Is it possible for a Muslim to live in Israel:

Ans. Yes. 20% of the Israeli population is Muslim.

2. Is it possible for a Jew to live in an Arab nation?

Ans. No. There are no Jews in Arab nations.

1-Yes but they live as sub humans, even in the Laws Jew people has more right and advantages than non Jews.
2-Yes, and you are wrong, and Jews lived in Muslim countries for centuries and still do although the vast majority immigrated to Israel due to better standard of living (as the countries they used to live are in development countries such as Morocco for example), Do Jews has the same rights as Muslims in a country like Morocco, yes they do.
It would be nice for people would verify their stuff before posting wrong things..... I mean it's not a secret or anything even UK or US politics know such things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9C_5CICiU
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August 06, 2014, 11:54:36 AM
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Hmm.. let me compare the situation.

2. Is it possible for a Jew to live in an Arab nation?


It's possible in some, but would be a small minority with restricted rights depending on the state.

Turkey - 3%
Iran - 2% non muslim including jewish
Jordan - 2% other religion, could be jewish
Saudia Arabia - 0%
Kuwait - 0%


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August 06, 2014, 12:01:32 PM
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You're not going to understand what is happening there if you don't take into account the occupation, and the cruel conditions Israel is imposing on the Palestinians living in the occupied territories.

Hmm.. let me compare the situation.

1. Is it possible for a Muslim to live in Israel:

Ans. Yes. 20% of the Israeli population is Muslim.

2. Is it possible for a Jew to live in an Arab nation?

Ans. No. There are no Jews in Arab nations.

1-Yes but they live as sub humans, even in Laws Jew people has more right and advantages than non Jews.
2-Yes, and you are wrong, and Jews lived in Muslim countries for centuries and still do although the vast majority immigrated to Israel due to better standard of living (as the countries they used to live are in development countries such as Morocco for example), Do Jews has the same rights as Muslims in a country like Morocco, yes they do.
It would be nice for people would verify their stuff before posting wrong things..... I mean it's not a secret or anything even UK or US politics know such things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9C_5CICiU

What radio station is that?

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August 06, 2014, 02:21:00 PM
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What radio station is that?
I really don't know, but it seems there are several videos from that same radio show, that are recommended when you watch the video, I'm pretty sure some would have on the description the name of the show and the radio station
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August 06, 2014, 02:40:23 PM
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He seems to know the importance of arguing the facts.
Not just picking a side and doggedly defending it.
EDIT: Turns out he's a British MP.

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