Hamas and The Tea Party

[zolace]

Yes, I am going to compare the two.  Both are predators who prey upon the uneducated, the poor, the disenfranchised.  Both spew outrageous propaganda filled with hate and division, in order to gain more power.  They also, at the same time, promote a conservative utopia - just at the end of a string.

Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions" but who's going to get hurt?  Not them - just the "little people."

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

[sana8410]

I realize and support your right to your personal opinion stated above. Based upon your stated thoughts I am going to first post our entire Tea Party Movement agenda, and then ask you questions about your stated opinions as posted above.


"(1) Protect the Constitution: Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does (82.03 percent).

"(2) Reject Cap & Trade: Stop costly new regulations that would increase unemployment, raise consumers prices, and weaken the nation's global competitiveness with virtually no impact on global temperatures (72.20 percent).

"(3) Demand a Balanced Budget: Begin the Constitutional amendment process to require a balanced budget with a two-thirds majority needed for any tax hike. (69.69 percent)

"(4) Enact Fundamental Tax Reform: Adopt a simple and fair single-rate tax system by scrapping the internal revenue code and replacing it with one that is no longer than 4,543 words -- the length of the original Constitution. (64.90 percent).

"(5) Restore Fiscal Responsibility & Constitutionally Limited Government in Washington: Create a Blue Ribbon taskforce that engages in a complete audit of federal agencies and programs, assessing their Constitutionality, and identifying duplication, waste, ineffectiveness, and agencies and programs better left for the states or local authorities, or ripe for wholesale reform or elimination due to our efforts to restore limited government consistent with the U.S. Constitution's meaning. (63.37 percent)

"(6) End Runaway Government Spending: Impose a statutory cap limiting the annual growth in total federal spending to the sum of the inflation rate plus the percentage of population growth. (56.57 percent).

"(7) Defund, Repeal & Replace Government-run Health Care: Defund, repeal and replace the recently passed government-run health care with a system that actually makes health care and insurance more affordable by enabling a competitive, open, and transparent free-market health care and health insurance system that isn't restricted by state boundaries. (56.39 percent).

"( Pass an 'All-of-the-Above' Energy Policy: Authorize the exploration of proven energy reserves to reduce our dependence on foreign energy sources from unstable countries and reduce regulatory barriers to all other forms of energy creation, lowering prices and creating competition and jobs. (55.51 percent).

"(9) Stop the Pork: Place a moratorium on all earmarks until the budget is balanced, and then require a 2/3 majority to pass any earmark. (55.47 percent).
"(10) Stop the Tax Hikes: Permanently repeal all tax hikes, including those to the income, capital gains and death taxes, currently scheduled to begin in 2011. (53.38 percent)."

[noviapriani]

terrorist loving liberals l don't give a shit about what the tea party is all about... cause we know that its the tea party that wants to slaughter anyone that doesn't agree with them, its the tea party that lobs bombs into other states, its the tea party that slaughters gays, its the tea party that subjugates women and mutilates their bodies, its the tea party that ...... oh wait.. no its not.... thats  hamas.... the terrorists that the liberals give a pass for atrocities, but accuse the tea party of but know that they are wrong.... . ... comparing the tea party to hamas is just beyond fucking sick..... 

I pray that you never come across one of your beloved hamas terrorists, cause they will slaughter you without a second glance, but you've shown that you don't care that these people are mass murderers....

[TECSHARE]

Yes, I am going to compare the two.  Both are predators who prey upon the uneducated, the poor, the disenfranchised.  Both spew outrageous propaganda filled with hate and division, in order to gain more power.  They also, at the same time, promote a conservative utopia - just at the end of a string.

Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions" but who's going to get hurt?  Not them - just the "little people."

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

This is totally disingenuous. While I don't affiliate myself with tea party folks or agree with a lot of what they say, comparing them to Hamas is just a slandering tool. There was a time when the conservative tea party movement and the liberal occupy movement were coming to
agreement and unifying. That ended quickly as these groups were both hijacked and the red vs blue dichotomy was repeated again and fine tools such as yourself began swallowing the story hook line and sinker and made it just another us vs them perpetual motionless machine.

[sana8410]

"Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy."

I realize that with our National Movement we have both a few ill intentioned people. We have also caught and extracted a few others who were Collectivist Liberal 'plants' whose intention was to make our Movement look bad publically. As soon as they started they were caught and physically moved away from our genuine supporters.

My question to you, is do you have a valid, objective reference to ANY Tea Party Movement promoting actual: HATE, FEAR, or BIGOTRY you can post that validates your opinion stated in your OP?

It is true that nearly ALL of our Tea Party Supporters in our National Movement are VERY Passionate about saving our nation from government over reach in excess of the 18 prerogatives allowed the Federal government by our Constitution, and yes these millions of Individuals are VERY faithful to our shared beliefs and Personal Values, so it may very easily appear someone whipped us into a frenzy while in reality each of us did that for ourselves. Just think, over 90% of us vote every election.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.

Yes, we do call for Impeachment, relative to specific cases where Obama over reached his authority as defined in our Constitution. "IF" we succeed in said Impeachment, we realize the Senate will be VERY unlikely to convict him, however, he will be forced to cease his repeated Over Reach and usurping the power from our House.

[sana8410]

My question to you, zolace, is do you have a valid, objective reference to ANY Tea Party Movement Supporter calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black. that you can post that validates your opinion stated in your OP?

They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions" but who's going to get hurt?   Not them - just the "little people."

My question to you,  is do you have a valid, objective reference to ANY Tea Party Movement Supporter where a Supporter was actually caught encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions"?

I ask these questions, because "IF" you actually produce valid events in answer to my questions, then I plan to raise some hell with our Facilitators. Obviously, "IF" the situations are isolated, local incidents I can and will be less able to bring about any changes since local groups are just that and autonomous from our National Movement.

[noviapriani]

Look at what jesse jackson and the democrat party promises have done for Chicago over the last 50 years. Can anyone really say the black community is better off after 50 years of the dems promises of throwing money around and promising them a better world? 50 years ago before dem leaders took control almost 70% of black children were born to married parents, today thanks to welfare handouts by dems less than 26% of black children are born to married parents. And dammit, the left is proud of it because they know blacks can't achieve unless they get that welfare that keeps them in poverty.

[sana8410]

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

Gunny nailed it with his statement: "That's an easy one.  The Republican Party!"

The Republican Party has already felt the wrath of our American Voters replacing their mealy mouthed, go along to get along, so called 'moderates' with our Fiscal Conservative Tea Party candidates who are each Individually committed to our ten agenda points above.

BTW, which of our agenda points do you personally object to and why?

I eagerly await your answers to my questions,zolace

[trans4mist]

Yes, I am going to compare the two.  Both are predators who prey upon the uneducated, the poor, the disenfranchised.  Both spew outrageous propaganda filled with hate and division, in order to gain more power.  They also, at the same time, promote a conservative utopia - just at the end of a string.

Look at how Israel has hurt the Jewish people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Palestinians/Arabs.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions" but who's going to get hurt?  Not them - just the "little people."

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

[stevegreer]

Both are predators who prey upon the uneducated, the poor, the disenfranchised.  Both spew outrageous propaganda filled with hate and division, in order to gain more power.  They also, at the same time, promote a conservative utopia - just at the end of a string.

And your sources of this information are? Please, post a reliable source (a.k.a. not a liberal-biased media source) that proves this.

Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Ok, this much is true about Hamas, so I do agree with this.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.

Again, where is your source for this statement?

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black. 

Ah yes, when all else fails just throw the race card in because that is the most valid argument out there.  

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

With any luck, the Far Left will be the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party.

[Spendulus]

"Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy."

I realize that with our National Movement we have both a few ill intentioned people. We have also caught and extracted a few others who were Collectivist Liberal 'plants' whose intention was to make our Movement look bad publically. As soon as they started they were caught and physically moved away from our genuine supporters.

My question to you, is do you have a valid, objective reference to ANY Tea Party Movement promoting actual: HATE, FEAR, or BIGOTRY you can post that validates your opinion stated in your OP?

It is true that nearly ALL of our Tea Party Supporters in our National Movement are VERY Passionate about saving our nation from government over reach in excess of the 18 prerogatives allowed the Federal government by our Constitution, and yes these millions of Individuals are VERY faithful to our shared beliefs and Personal Values, so it may very easily appear someone whipped us into a frenzy while in reality each of us did that for ourselves. Just think, over 90% of us vote every election.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.

Yes, we do call for Impeachment, relative to specific cases where Obama over reached his authority as defined in our Constitution. "IF" we succeed in said Impeachment, we realize the Senate will be VERY unlikely to convict him, however, he will be forced to cease his repeated Over Reach and usurping the power from our House.

Gee, our Tea Party regularly has a black speaker come down.  Really smart guy.  And we supported a black running for a Congress seat.

The only racist anti-black stuff I've heard is from liberals trying to create it.

To be fair, I have heard anti-Obama "because he's Muslim" but then, he's sure looking sort of like a Muslim-liker these days...

[Spendulus]

terrorist loving liberals l don't give a shit about what the tea party is all about... cause we know that its the tea party that wants to slaughter anyone that doesn't agree with them, its the tea party that lobs bombs into other states, its the tea party that slaughters gays, its the tea party that subjugates women and mutilates their bodies, its the tea party that ...... oh wait.. no its not.... thats  hamas.... the terrorists that the liberals give a pass for atrocities, but accuse the tea party of but know that they are wrong.... . ... comparing the tea party to hamas is just beyond fucking sick..... 

I pray that you never come across one of your beloved hamas terrorists, cause they will slaughter you without a second glance, but you've shown that you don't care that these people are mass murderers....

+1

[zolace]

Another similarity with the Hamas vs Tea Party comparison:

A talking head on CNN just said that if Israel crushes Hamas, there's another way more radical group (ISIS) who could take over.

Here on the home front, the far right primaries any and all moderate republicans, calling them RINO's and smearing their reps, and pouring millions into the coffers of far right 'bagger candidates.  The GOP collapses and the Tea Party takes over. 

Scary thought, huh?

[umair127]

You say you want to compare the two…

Actually the comparison should be between the Liberals and Hamas…

Since Obama wanted Israel to surrender to Hamas, you have to realize the Liberals and Hamas are one and the same now… In order to be a liberal now you must support terrorist groups, terrorist states, and terrorism in general… Obama does :-)

[stevegreer]

Another similarity with the Hamas vs Tea Party comparison:

A talking head on CNN just said that if Israel crushes Hamas, there's another way more radical group (ISIS) who could take over.

Here on the home front, the far right primaries any and all moderate republicans, calling them RINO's and smearing their reps, and pouring millions into the coffers of far right 'bagger candidates.  The GOP collapses and the Tea Party takes over. 

Scary thought, huh?

So instead of replying to the responses to your OP and to the questions directed at you, you respond with more unsubstantiated BS?

[sana8410]

Another similarity with the Hamas vs Tea Party comparison:

A talking head on CNN just said that if Israel crushes Hamas, there's another way more radical group (ISIS) who could take over.

Here on the home front, the far right primaries any and all moderate republicans, calling them RINO's and smearing their reps, and pouring millions into the coffers of far right 'bagger candidates.  The GOP collapses and the Tea Party takes over. 

Scary thought, huh?

listed the Tea Party platform and asked you questions, you ignored those questions but can you tell me how the above platform stance fits into the hamas terrorist platform and why you're afraid of it? Do you think tea party members are going to raid your home and slit your throat while you sleep ? Do you think that adherence to the Constitution when writing laws will drive you out of your home and your country like isis is doing? What is it about adhering to the Constitution that you fear ? Can you answer those questions or will you do your usual and reply with snark and off topic snipits from the news? I'll give you a few hours to read and comprehend the questions that others could read, comprehend and respond to in minutes in order to make it fair.

[umair127]

his brothers a terrorist, what do you expect…

Now granted the tea party, to a liberal would be similar to a terrorist group, but I don't see the tea party supporting the setting up of Islamic states, supporting terrorist over free nations…

The way the Liberals do…

Kind of wild isn't it… Never thought you'd be part of the terrorist supporting group did you?

But you are :-)

[stevegreer]

Zolace can't respond right now. He's too busy icing his burns and surfing the liberal "news" sites for more useless, biased, unsubstantiated, ignorance-filled talking points to post instead of actually arguing his case with legitimate information.

[noviapriani]

Another similarity with the Hamas vs Tea Party comparison:

A talking head on CNN just said that if Israel crushes Hamas, there's another way more radical group (ISIS) who could take over.

Here on the home front, the far right primaries any and all moderate republicans, calling them RINO's and smearing their reps, and pouring millions into the coffers of far right 'bagger candidates.  The GOP collapses and the Tea Party takes over. 

Scary thought, huh?

and the tea party... who do they plan on slaughtering??  as opposed to hamas and the isis?  your comparison is assinine.. but you know that already.... so sad that you can't see the differences between political ideaology and religious fanaticism that has no compunction about slaughtering their opponents...
color me shocked that you don't see the difference..

[trans4mist]

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