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August 01, 2014, 05:06:36 PM
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if hamas takes over:  mass murder, killing gays, subjugating women, religious oppression, killing christians, jews and anyone who does not adhere to their warped views...

if the tea party takes over:  try to lower government fiscal debt, small government interference, our freedoms will not be infringed upon, there will still be peaceful elections of our officials, ... and the best thing of all.. .NO MASS MURDER

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August 01, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
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I think this is a delayed response to my post about Warren and her liberal agenda and the political agenda of Hitler.... the similarities  are striking... while I was showing the comparison of political agendas, i never in any way compared the liberal agenda to mass murder... but  leave it to a liberal to compare a start up political party to a mass murdering religious sect....cause we all know that the tea party is all about murder....
its a stupid comparison.... but really, what do you expect from the original post.

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August 01, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
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I repeat:
They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions"

Yes, you ERW radicals have called for ALL of the above.  Now I realize that you are out of touch with reality these days, but the things I've listed above have come out of your mouths - and I see that it's upset you.  LOL

So, you've either let your fundamentalist religion - or your far right fringe politics turn you into Ugly American extremists.  Americans don't like extremism in any fashion.  So maybe you guys should just leave America because she doesn't deserve selfish, ugly, disloyal peoples like yourselves.

America doesn't deserve to be ripped apart by your racism or your ignorance.  But that's exactly what you are calling for.


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August 01, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
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Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?

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August 01, 2014, 05:34:02 PM
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Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 

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August 01, 2014, 05:43:16 PM
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Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
Actually we have to go back to LBJ and his war on poverty and his great society programs.

LBJ’s war on poverty was to use government surplus food to help the poor rather than spend money to store the food.

 

Nixon, better know as a crook and as a traitor, along with then Southern Democrats (now the Republican Party) are the ones who took welfare to the next level.

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August 01, 2014, 06:14:23 PM
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Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
Spending has decreased from Obama's all time high record budget deficits because 5-6 years later the overseas conflicts have seen a reduction in troop allocations. And to illustrate a point, yes Bush was the type of neocon republican that campaigned on having a restrained foreign policy but who governed like an imperialist. He's the type of republican the OP would say other republicans refer to as a RINO. A RINO is someone who fools the party base into thinking they have conservative (fiscal) roots and then governs like a democrat. This is where the modern Tea Party came from: at the time a disgust by both republicans and democrats fed up w/ outrageous federal spending. However, since religious and social issues were injected into the TP and Fox and their buddy radio hosts hijacked it in many ways, they were able to spread division and liberals did their job of making their own hate the TP as some group the Koch brothers funds to screw over poor people. I'm more of the Liberty Movement type as that's unplugged from religious baggage and focuses solely on the Constitution and foreign non-intervention. Both the LM and TP are united when it comes to taking down RINOs who are fully backed by all the main corporatist interests that progressives claim to hate yet confuse the situation and actually prefer the RINOs to those in their party who are trying to shed the Bush-Cheney mantle piece. Weird.

In reality, cutting government spending w/ a meat hook and getting to resemble some semblance of Constitutionality would create opportunities across the board for everyone. Welfare programs, as an example, do nothing besides lock someone into a lifetime of dependency at no chance at upwardly movement. Charitable handups help out people in a pinch but would keep them trying to do better for continual help. When the government is paired back, that frees up plenty of money and cut regulations that allow businesses to prosper and expand and hire more. Now we just have part time, seasonal and minimum wage jobs available w/ little or no middle class jobs being offered. Lastly, not only should the budget be balanced like anyone else has to do but ya gotta start paying down the debt because if interest rates are hiked, then good bye to national defense and other current expenditures. It's been the Bush republicans and the fraudulent Obama progressives that have orchestrated every bailout from TARP to the Stimulus bullshit and all of it benefited corporate wall street interests while screwing over the average person and home owner. They've been driving up the cost of tuition on all young people by guaranteeing student loans which gives no incentive for colleges to cut costs. When government subsidizes something you always get more of it at a greater cost. Interesting that cell phones, tvs, computers, lasik and plastic surgery have come down in price over the years - all of which are low regulated markets. And the only way the government has been able to do all of the above and fight ridiculous wars all this time is because of the Federal Reserve monetizing the debt - aka counterfeiting money which kills savers and inflates the money supply. How in the world can anyone be involved in Bitcoin if they don't understand what it actually does and it's long term goal? It's honest money yet I bet the dyed in the whole lefties here that bend over backwards doing rolling donuts to confuse and obfuscate the situation are here only to ride the money train in their own greedy way rather than glowingly realize that Bitcoin is going to free the average person from corporate bankster interests that have been sucking everyone dry since at least 1913. And finally, since that time frame the government has only grown to epic proportions and less and less opportunities have been allotted to each subsequent generation. You can't deny that.
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August 01, 2014, 06:25:38 PM
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the two are politically misaligned though. the tea party is full of overzealous christians who love israel (it's in the bible after all), while hamas is obviously anti-israel
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August 01, 2014, 06:38:31 PM
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Yes, I am going to compare the two.  Both are predators who prey upon the uneducated, the poor, the disenfranchised.  Both spew outrageous propaganda filled with hate and division, in order to gain more power.  They also, at the same time, promote a conservative utopia - just at the end of a string.

Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions" but who's going to get hurt?  Not them - just the "little people."

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

I am sure you can guess through my posts I am not a fan of socialism, obamacare, carbon tax pushers, etc, etc. For you to compare the Tea Party and hamas is the best way to push ourselves to actually define hamas. One wants less government in people's life, the other one TOTAL submission to a theocratic system. Even arab nations around the middle east cannot stand hamas and NONE of them likes Israel.

Yet we need to believe the tea Party is worse than hamas because you don't like the conservative views? I am sure there are plenty of stuff you can find pointing to why the IRS was right to target the Tea Party, without telling the world you are supporting a terrorist organization, labelled as such by the obama government on its Foreign Terrorist Organizations website
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

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August 01, 2014, 06:43:31 PM
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I repeat:
They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions"

Yes, you ERW radicals have called for ALL of the above.  Now I realize that you are out of touch with reality these days, but the things I've listed above have come out of your mouths - and I see that it's upset you.  LOL

So, you've either let your fundamentalist religion - or your far right fringe politics turn you into Ugly American extremists.  Americans don't like extremism in any fashion.  So maybe you guys should just leave America because she doesn't deserve selfish, ugly, disloyal peoples like yourselves.

America doesn't deserve to be ripped apart by your racism or your ignorance.  But that's exactly what you are calling for.



Did you know you've pretty much defined hamas just now?  Smiley Wink

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August 01, 2014, 06:49:18 PM
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Looks like it is a Tea Party website. Hooo Yes! But it is! Cheesy Grin Cheesy Good job associating yourselves with people who cannot stand a man because he is black...




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August 01, 2014, 07:47:16 PM
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Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.


I see the exact same tactics used by all political parties that promote Xenophobic Imperialism not just the right, please don't be another one of those people who conveniently ignores the crimes committed by 'their' side like so many people I've seen when they talk about who's right and who's wrong.
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August 01, 2014, 08:03:44 PM
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Canada: Tea Partier Shout “Heil Hitler” During Pro-Israel Rally In Calgary…(July 31 2014)

http://youtu.be/8vPla7pqqmQ

Obama should do something, even if this in Canada...


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August 01, 2014, 09:43:32 PM
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Canada: Tea Partier Shout “Heil Hitler” During Pro-Israel Rally In Calgary…(July 31 2014)

http://youtu.be/8vPla7pqqmQ

Obama should do something, even if this in Canada...




what can obama do? it's in canada, and even if it were in the U.S., they'd be protected under the first amendment.
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August 01, 2014, 11:26:04 PM
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Canada: Tea Partier Shout “Heil Hitler” During Pro-Israel Rally In Calgary…(July 31 2014)

http://youtu.be/8vPla7pqqmQ

Obama should do something, even if this in Canada...




what can obama do? it's in canada, and even if it were in the U.S., they'd be protected under the first amendment.

I forgot to add those damned " Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes " They are not tea partiers, obvious when you click on the video.

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August 02, 2014, 02:54:59 AM
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Yes, I am going to compare the two.  Both are predators who prey upon the uneducated, the poor, the disenfranchised.  Both spew outrageous propaganda filled with hate and division, in order to gain more power.  They also, at the same time, promote a conservative utopia - just at the end of a string.

Look at how Hamas has hurt the Palestinian people.  They threw money around and promised them a better world, all the while brainwashing them and stoking the hate of the Jews.  And now who is dying?  Civilians........the "collateral damage" so to speak.

Look at the Tea Party/Far Right movement - they basically do the same game - they stir up fear and hate and bigotry and whip the "faithful" into a frenzy.

They have stupid Americans now spouting Anti-American rhetoric, calling for impeachment - or even death - to our President because he is Black.  They encourage "armed insurrection" and "Second Amendment Solutions" but who's going to get hurt?  Not them - just the "little people."

So now - who do you think the "collateral damage" of the Tea Party will be...who will ultimately pay?

So if you think American does something wrong and say that you stupid?  I don't support the Bachman, Palin type tea party because they are a fake clone that has successfully brainwashed people like yourself into believing the nonsense they spew.  You confuse Neocons in Tea Party clothing like most of those who don't understand the political games being played.  You even go as far as to compare them to a terrorist organization,  this is the real problem.
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August 02, 2014, 04:08:12 AM
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Lol comparing extremist groups and trying to find something in common.  Why not compare the LGBT fanatics versus the radical Muslims who want to kill people for being gay.  You think either of them would tolerate the other?   They both align into radical groups and I'm sure the LGBT group would be happy to bear arms against radical Muslims. You think LGBT would support Hamas?  Since LGBT isn't exactly friends with the Tea Party...
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August 02, 2014, 01:14:52 PM
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Lol comparing extremist groups and trying to find something in common.  Why not compare the LGBT fanatics versus the radical Muslims who want to kill people for being gay.  You think either of them would tolerate the other?   They both align into radical groups and I'm sure the LGBT group would be happy to bear arms against radical Muslims. You think LGBT would support Hamas?  Since LGBT isn't exactly friends with the Tea Party...

Anything touching islam is kryptonite for the pink mafia. Hamas is safe from them.

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August 02, 2014, 01:55:28 PM
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Still nothing but baseless accusations from zolace. No credible sources cited. I'm beginning to think he is nothing more than a troll.

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August 02, 2014, 03:25:04 PM
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I've always considered the Tea Party as like a Christian Taliban group for the 1%ers.

Anything funded by neocons like the Koch brothers can only mean bad news.
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