IS BITCOIN A CIA PROJECT?

[Bit_Happy]

Haha,as ridiculous as it sounds, I'm now not going to dismiss this as a possibility entirely. I remember a few years back when some conspiracy theorists told everyone that our electronic devices were being used to spy on us. Everyone laughed at them and called them nutjobs who should remove their tinfoil hats. They were actually correct and no one would have even know the extent that we were being spied on by our own government if we didn't have Snowden. So,yeah,who knows?

What if Snowden is a paid shill/tinfoil hat conspiracy to fool us into thinking the 'evil' Gov't has the power to spy on us with "insanely powerful electronic devices"?  

[taylortyler]

It's possible, and anyone who says that it's not possible is full of shit.

[zhinkk]

Gavin Andresen was invited to speak to the CIA in 2011. I doubt they would be asking him for infos if they had already invented and successfully initiated public adoption of BTC. It is obvious that BTC will be very useful for CIA operations, seeing as their jurisdiction is OUTSIDE the USA and funds often need to be moved across boarders covertly.

The problem with just about every single conspiracy theory out there is this; If it is such top-secret high-level operations that are supposed to take place without public knowledge, how come the most whacked out, idiotic, poor, dumb hillbillies are the ones that always uncover the "real story"? You would think that the weakest link in the chain would be the very last to figure out this shit. I guess there is some sort of info leak that flows directly through every trailer park and welfare office in America. Chemtrails are bullshit too (its called jet fuel exhaust). Sorry, Sol Adoni, but your paranoid babbling is unreadable claptrap.  

When was he invited to speak to the CIA? Is there an article/link you can show me? Not doubting you, I'm just interested.

[jbreher]

When was he invited to speak to the CIA? Is there an article/link you can show me? Not doubting you, I'm just interested.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gavin+cia+site%3Abitcointalk.org

[Morchid]

Who knows, somethings are better unspoken.

[Riniaiokl]

if it is, thank you CIA 

[btmtb]

FACT

He has legal status in the courts that they address him as GOD, since his beliefs are everyone is God. So most see that and say loon, crackpot, etc. So what he chooses to see energy/spirit that all have as the godhead.

Oh no, another sock puppet account for John Patrick Ennis. At least this one isnt just spamming your spamdex farm urls, so thank you for that. That FACT, above, is demonstrably pure bullshit again though.

http://casetext.com/case/maus-v-ennis-14#.U99goZ79Gz0
"On December 21, 2010, Maus initiated a civil action against Ennis, and Ornstein later joined as a plaintiff. Subsequently, Ennis, proceeding pro se, filed a motion, requesting that the court require all parties to address him by his religious names. The district court denied the motion."

https://casetext.com/case/maus-v-ennis-5
"In his motion, the Defendant refers to himself as "The Honorable Dr. Rabbi Sollog Immanuel Adonai-Adoni aka GOD known as John Patrick Ennis in this action" and states that "anyone calling the defendant John Patrick Ennis is insulting the defendant and also insulting thousands of members around the world whom belong to The Nation and Temple of `Hayah, the religious organization for which the defendant is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Counsel of the Nation and the Temple of `Hayah." (Doc. 12 at 1). Absent some indication as to why it would be insulting to refer to the Defendant by what is apparently his given name, the Court will continue to do so."

And just as an indication as to what sort of person this is:
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca11/12-13802/12-13802-2013-03-27.html
"Specifically, Ennis had exhibited conduct that was “reprehensible,” and he had “acted intentionally, in bad faith, and for oppressive reasons.”"

[666uazan]

WOW this was DIFFICULT to read. I only made it HALFWAY before THROWING IN the towelie.

[annoyingorange]

Well researched article, puts out little known info about the inner group in control of bitcoin.

a. satoshi main figure no one admits to knowing
b. gavin andresen takes control in 2012 of the core and sets policy such as fees
c. gavin now public figurehead of bitcoin an alleged decentralized currency that has complete centralized control, definitely smells like an intelligence project.

[annoyingorange]

So either Gavin is delusional and created 'satoshi' and curbed him in the 2012 public spat as the article says, freeing bitcoin from the 'mystery' of who is satoshi, really Gavin, or Gavin is the public dupe as the article puts forth being the new public face of a CIA project where no one has ever seen Satoshi.

Sounds like a spy book not real life, but that is the 'history' of Bitcoin that is now valued at 8 Billion dollars.

So Satoshi is the creation of either Gavin or the CIA.

[annoyingorange]

Or you can just buy the 'story' of Satoshi a guy no one ever seen in person, that's a CIA textbook project to some.

But overall, the articles writer suggests the actual Bitcoin idea is pretty good and with some public over sight groups as to public discussion by major programmers as to the actual core now in control of Gavin makes 100% sense to anyone with a financial interest in Bitcoin. You can't have it's core controlled by so few people as it is now controlled.

The whole thing reeks of Plausible deniability for the CIA if they created Satoshi.

[sugarfree]

If the CIA/NSA or Mossad created Bitcoin, then nothing can stop Bitcoin from prevailing. It's the biggest possible buy signal.

[S4VV4S]

If the CIA/NSA or Mossad created Bitcoin, then nothing can stop Bitcoin from prevailing. It's the biggest possible buy signal.

True!

That being said:

I do believe that the CIA is a Bitcoin project....
We have to hard fork and get them out of the blockchain immediately   

[Yakamoto]

So either Gavin is delusional and created 'satoshi' and curbed him in the 2012 public spat as the article says, freeing bitcoin from the 'mystery' of who is satoshi, really Gavin, or Gavin is the public dupe as the article puts forth being the new public face of a CIA project where no one has ever seen Satoshi.

Sounds like a spy book not real life, but that is the 'history' of Bitcoin that is now valued at 8 Billion dollars.

So Satoshi is the creation of either Gavin or the CIA.

This has no evidence to back this theory.

Gavin wasn't introduced to BTC in 2010/2011, and the white paper was created by a "Satoshi Nakamoto".

Anyone can say that the identity of someone who hasn't come public is a creation of them, it could very well be a power grab.

Or you can just buy the 'story' of Satoshi a guy no one ever seen in person, that's a CIA textbook project to some.

But overall, the articles writer suggests the actual Bitcoin idea is pretty good and with some public over sight groups as to public discussion by major programmers as to the actual core now in control of Gavin makes 100% sense to anyone with a financial interest in Bitcoin. You can't have it's core controlled by so few people as it is now controlled.

The whole thing reeks of Plausible deniability for the CIA if they created Satoshi.

A textbook story would be "Yoink! You're ours now." Oh, I'm sorry, someone no-one has seen just disappearing? Amelia Earheart is part of a CIA conspiracy according to that logic.

On the core comment; you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you can go control the core, people will see it. Code is open source for a reason, and I have a feeling several dozen people would have already picked it out and shown it to the community (WITH proof) as to how the core is controlled by a single point.

Oh, you mean he can control the blockchain? Good luck with that.

It is decentralized very literally. You can't just control it.

It may be a CIA creation, but they've left themselves unable to control what happens to it. They can't control it, only be like "Ha, we made that." But at the same time, they couldn't prove it.

I might be an agnostic member now, I can't prove Bitcoin isn't a CIA project, but I can't prove it isn't either. I won't be letting this affect my future ideas, that's just what I'll be for a little while.

[counter]

WOW this was DIFFICULT to read. I only made it HALFWAY before THROWING IN the towelie.

That is because it is a hypothetical conversation and mostly pure speculation on a matter that leaves many unanswered questions.  Nobody and prove anything and some posts are just fud.

[Mobius]

Gavin Andresen was invited to speak to the CIA in 2011. I doubt they would be asking him for infos if they had already invented and successfully initiated public adoption of BTC. It is obvious that BTC will be very useful for CIA operations, seeing as their jurisdiction is OUTSIDE the USA and funds often need to be moved across boarders covertly.

The problem with just about every single conspiracy theory out there is this; If it is such top-secret high-level operations that are supposed to take place without public knowledge, how come the most whacked out, idiotic, poor, dumb hillbillies are the ones that always uncover the "real story"? You would think that the weakest link in the chain would be the very last to figure out this shit. I guess there is some sort of info leak that flows directly through every trailer park and welfare office in America. Chemtrails are bullshit too (its called jet fuel exhaust). Sorry, Sol Adoni, but your paranoid babbling is unreadable claptrap.   

When was he invited to speak to the CIA? Is there an article/link you can show me? Not doubting you, I'm just interested.

I am not sure when he was invited, but IIRC he actually spoke to the CIA right around the time that Satochi stopped being part of the Bitcoin project.

I would seriously doubt that Bitcoin is a CIA project as the protocol is open source and no one has made any specific accusations about the source code that the CIA could somehow use to their advantage. 

[sandykho47]

How can you think BTC is CIA project 
that's true there are no proof BTC is created/not by CIA

if that's true and CIA announcement it, will BTC price went up ?
i think somehow will down

[Yakamoto]

if that's true and CIA announcement it, will BTC price went up ?
i think somehow will down

Yeah, it will go down.

Also, I wouldn't recommend using beige as a color, I can't see it on my screen. Others probably can't see it as well, but that's just me.

It'll go down because people will no longer see it as an anonymous source of value, and think of it like regular electronic money. And, since anonymity is lost, then transactions will go down, because not everything on the internet is used for legal purchases. Or some people just don't want it to be seen.

[Pseudobit]

No, it's a project of the freemasons. We're the puppets as usual  . I think all this conspiracy stuff is bullshit. It's in the people's nature to think there's more..

Puppets? I don't think so. The problem is we have been led to believe there is more.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Well also if Satoshi was working with the CIA regulation would be much more easier lol.
Pretty much Satoshi knew where this was going and decided he didn't want to work out all those regulatory kinks in 2011 before this began lol.