Address balances

[RawDog]

I am wondering how I can get my bitcoin address to have a negative value.  Can some of you hackers out there help me figure out a way to reach realize a negative output?  This would be much appreciated.

[cozk]

lol

[R2D221]

If someone had a negative balance, it would be considered a bug, and would be fixed for the next release (similar to when someone created 91 billion bitcoins or such).

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

[BurtW]

What would that mean?  You owe the Bitcoin network that many BTC?

[Mitchell]

You can't be serious right? You cannot have a negative balance with Bitcoin. It's impossible (or at least should be impossible) to do.

[rz20]

It can happen sometimes in the blockchain because it is not good synced, or if you have tried to double spend.

When you resync your wallet it will have the correct amount.

If this happened to you it will be a bug from just the blockchain nodes or your wallet.

[micaman]

It can happen sometimes in the blockchain because it is not good synced, or if you have tried to double spend.

When you resync your wallet it will have the correct amount.

If this happened to you it will be a bug from just the blockchain nodes or your wallet.

I think you meant Blockchain.info, not blockchain. I don't think the blockchain can get unsynced, it's where you sync yourself with.

[BurtW]

Are you trying to see if you can create a negative balance OR do you have a negative balance at some web site?  If so which web site? Or, are you a troll?

[RoadStress]

OP is obviously trolling!

[bbit]

lol

lol lolz

[keithers]

you don't want to have to pay the overdraft fees of a negative balance BTC wallet!

[haploid23]

Why do you guys take this clown so seriously? He has bitcoin all figured out, and says it with confidence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgr3qEjbstM


More videos and his official channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E2VNe6Urbo

[lihuajkl]

You can't be serious right? You cannot have a negative balance with Bitcoin. It's impossible (or at least should be impossible) to do.

yes,impossible. If possible, the limit of 21 million will be expanded. The amount of btc in one address can be sent out more than it owns. Then infinite number of btc can be created out.

[phillipsjk]

I am wondering how I can get my bitcoin address to have a negative value.  Can some of you hackers out there help me figure out a way to reach realize a negative output?  This would be much appreciated.

Technically, addresses do no have balances: they are simply hashes of public keys. Private keys can be used to spend specific "coins." A coin is defined by it's [transaction hash]:[output index].

Code:

<phillipsjk> Does anybody have negative "balance" examples on hand? rawdog wants to know.
<dsnrk> sec.
<Amphibian> i'd code this up and show what I mean if I were actually interested in counting pools rather than just playing at math :p
<Amphibian> probably doesn't come across well in text
<dsnrk> ;;balance 3M1S3tZVkEJw7zVBtn1Mq8McVyfnNMAuoX
<gribble> -0.00887168
<dsnrk> phillipsjk: who is rawdog?
<Amphibian> dsnrk: lol. grepping my logs; 90% of balance requests are you doing either ethereum or that negative one.
<dsnrk> I don't doubt that for even a second
* Trustable (----) has joined #bitcoin
<phillipsjk> He likes ranting incoherently on Youtube. Thinks Bitcoin is a waste of time.

In that example, the hash is not one of a private key; but instead the hash of a payment script (It starts with 3 to indicate that (Pay to Script Hash)). Currently those are mainly used for multisignature transactions, but they don't have to be. You could embed a transaction spending some coin that was previously sent to another "address" for example (but you would only be able to broadcast the transaction once AFAIK).

Also, the various block explorers are not always reliable. I suspect "stealth addresses" may mess them up.

Edit: It was pointed out my explanation was slightly wrong. I crossed out the non-carefully vetted statements.

[BurtW]

Well I'll be darned.

I actually do learn something new every day that I am involved with Bitcoin.

That is why I just love Bitcoin and, on a side note, have now broken 100 days on this site!!!  Party time!

Total time logged in: 100 days, 1 hours and 16 minutes

 

Check this out, a negative "balance" it is:

https://blockchain.info/address/3M1S3tZVkEJw7zVBtn1Mq8McVyfnNMAuoX

[Mitchell]

That is why I just love Bitcoin and, on a side note, have now broken 100 days on this site!!!  Party time!

Total time logged in: 100 days, 1 hours and 16 minutes

Damn. You beat me man. Congrats on breaking 100 days! I am currently at 99 days, 12 hours and 15 minutes.
We both beat escrow.ms by the way (if you care about that, hahaha).

[Mobius]

It is not possible to "overdraw" your bitcoin balance. If you attempted to spend inputs that were not there then the TX would be rejected by the network.

Your address does not really have a "balance" but rather has a set of unspent inputs that were received from previous transactions. In order to spend your BTC associated with a specific address you will need to spend a specific unspent input.

[Shen yingying]

I am wondering how I can get my bitcoin address to have a negative value.  Can some of you hackers out there help me figure out a way to reach realize a negative output?  This would be much appreciated.

This is very interesting topic,  Hope I will know how to do if I got same ting here .

[TrailingComet]

Not possible in the btc world. Hence deflationary as you can't spend what you did not have.

[gordoh]

Lol it would be pretty cool though, but then every1 would do it and it would ruin the currency...