PrimeDice Is A Scam!

[tftiurn]

Don't pay attention to most of the trolls posting below, I know they will. Re read the message and try it for yourself.

ANYONE who even posts within 1 hour of posting, is obviously a troll, as they haven't tried the method out for themselves.

Im not saying you cannot profit, you may profit, but they are lying about odds, its not 1% house odds.

Go preroll or bet, bet Over 49.50, do this about 500-1000 times automated betting.

Realize, your biggest loss streak, will be 15+

Now, go bet Under 90.

Do not keep track of wins/loses, keep track of how many times your roll goes under 50.

You will see the biggest streak under 50, is around 5-7. NEVER WILL GO TOO HIGH.


Now, if you do not believe me go try it out.

If you still think it's a random roll...it's not. How can the streak's change? UNLESS the site was rigged, to change the odd's according to the win percentage.


Another theory I have which isn't quite strong, try betting .000005's on under 90. constantly. Watch how you will win so much.

Now try betting .1's on under 90. Watch how you will lose a lot. 90+ happens way more than 90% of the time.

What 90% means, in the long run, 100 rolls, 90 you will win. 10 you will lose. But notice if you preroll even 40 90's in 200 rolls. Raise your bets, watch how much you will lose.


I would advise to stay away.

[Holdaaja]

This is called variance.
You can check it is legit with hashes.

[tftiurn]

Variance is different rolls.

The streaks are changing with different types of bets, which = SCAM = Change of odd's per % win.

[ranochigo]

You clearly do not understand about the logic of gambling. Gambling is not about your win lose ratio. Obviously, you would have larger lose streaks in bigger runs. It isn't anything they can control. Varience always happens, no one can prevent this and this isn't what a casino owner can control. Do you know what's house edge? It is the multiplier of payouts, with 0 house edge, you can have 50% win chance and 2x payout. With 1% house edge, the chance is 49.5% and payout is 2x.
PS. I am not a troll or supporter of Primedice. You are making false accusations about a specific casino without any true evidence which points towards the casino owner manipulation of rolls. Try it in any other casino and see if you will get your desired result.

[nahtnam]

Set the seed.

[gadman2]

I'm willing to bet he put in like 0.1 and did under 90 a couple of times for 0.00005 and won, then did it a few times with 0.1 and lost once or twice and is now pissed.

[ranochigo]

Variance is different rolls.

The streaks are changing with different types of bets, which = SCAM = Change of odd's per % win.

Obviously you are going to experience different streaks with different odds. If you roll 80, the settings with roll under 49.5% one wouldn't win. However, the one with 90% odds will win. 90% chance basically lowers your payouts while lifting your chance of winning. While 49.5% lowers your chance and increase your payout.

[monbux]

I'm willing to bet he put in like 0.1 and did under 90 a couple of times for 0.00005 and won, then did it a few times with 0.1 and lost once or twice and is now pissed.

I'd be on your side of that bet.  The OP is the real troll :-/ 
@tftiurn, I see that you like double spacing and everything, but you forgot to show us the proof! 

[dooglus]

I'm willing to bet he put in like 0.1 and did under 90 a couple of times for 0.00005 and won, then did it a few times with 0.1 and lost once or twice and is now pissed.

It's not just PrimeDice. Just yesterday I bet 5 BTC at 90% on PRCDice and lost.

What are the odds of that? You're meant to win 90% of the time but that bet won 0% of the time.

Joking aside, the soon-to-be-released PrimeDice 3 changes the provably fair algorithm to use the same server seed until the player changes it. That makes it much easier to verify your rolls than the current system (which changes the server seed every roll, and also uses a daily secret which you can't see until the next day).

The current (PrimeDice 2) system does in theory allow the house to cheat by analysing your betting pattern, assuming you won't change your client seed, and feeding you a series of server seeds pre-designed to give you bad rolls (not that I think they are doing any of this). The new release removes that possibility.

[superSTAR777]

even i have tried this earlier ,  i betted under 90 with 0.0001 and i win a lot , when i do with 0.01 and 0.1 ( 9 rolls i done ) and i lost 7out of those , lolz how u say its probably fair , haha

[Thekool1s]

Here you go


Now tell me if i am the owner of the site on front page i can say low house edge but i can put the real house edge to what ever i want! It will make me profit!

[ranochigo]

even i have tried this earlier ,  i betted under 90 with 0.0001 and i win a lot , when i do with 0.01 and 0.1 ( 9 rolls i done ) and i lost 7out of those , lolz how u say its probably fair , haha

There is no way for the house to even manipulate the rolls if you change your seed very frequently. I doubt Stunna does that even if you don't change it. Varience always happen, you can have long lose streaks at time and long win streaks at times. I suggest you to looki through this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance

[ranochigo]

Here you go


Now tell me if i am the owner of the site on front page i can say low house edge but i can put the real house edge to what ever i want! It will make me profit!

House edge can be seen by the multiplier and the win chance of the rolls. There isn't a way to change the house edge without the user seeing it. The user can determine the fairness of the game and the house edge individually. If the win multiplier is x2, the higher the house edge, the lower the amount of chance of you hitting it. The lower the house edge, the higher the win chance for x2. You may want to look through this:http://casinogambling.about.com/od/oddsandends/a/houseedge.htm

[sandykho47]

The Number is random based on hash calculation
every site you try, will got same result

So, PrimeDice is not a scam 

[Unluckyduck]

Don't pay attention to most of the trolls posting below, I know they will. Re read the message and try it for yourself.

ANYONE who even posts within 1 hour of posting, is obviously a troll, as they haven't tried the method out for themselves.

Im not saying you cannot profit, you may profit, but they are lying about odds, its not 1% house odds.

Go preroll or bet, bet Over 49.50, do this about 500-1000 times automated betting.

Realize, your biggest loss streak, will be 15+

Now, go bet Under 90.

Do not keep track of wins/loses, keep track of how many times your roll goes under 50.

You will see the biggest streak under 50, is around 5-7. NEVER WILL GO TOO HIGH.


Now, if you do not believe me go try it out.

If you still think it's a random roll...it's not. How can the streak's change? UNLESS the site was rigged, to change the odd's according to the win percentage.


Another theory I have which isn't quite strong, try betting .000005's on under 90. constantly. Watch how you will win so much.

Now try betting .1's on under 90. Watch how you will lose a lot. 90+ happens way more than 90% of the time.

What 90% means, in the long run, 100 rolls, 90 you will win. 10 you will lose. But notice if you preroll even 40 90's in 200 rolls. Raise your bets, watch how much you will lose.


I would advise to stay away.

Nothing in this post proves anything other than that you were unlucky.

[Traffic4u]

I really didn't know it's scam or not, i just lost 0.01 but i enjoyed it.
it's a game.. if i am not win, then i lost. 

[SelbyTsang]

Come on not this kind of argument again.
Losing a high win-chance bet or encountering a long losing streak do not indicate the site is scamming at all. It could very likely just because you are having bad luck.

[wayshegoes]

I don't think a 15 loss streak in 500-1000 rolls is realistic. Sort of goes against the point you're trying to make anyway.

[Prez]

Gambling in itself is a scam, now stop gambling if you can't take a lose.

[bigasic]

When they say 1 percent house edge they say thats for the long run. I could play there for a week and loose 80 percent of the time, and you go play there and win 80 percent of the time.. Its like those slot machines in vegas that say similar things. One time I won 1k bucks, that means there will be over 1k in losses to players.. yes, variance is a bitch...