Alex Jones is pro-BTC, says his store will begin to accept as payment...

[jcoin200]

Alex Jones is not at all

[jonald_fyookball]

I'm going to go ahead and defend Alex Jones because I think he generally speaks the truth.  Yes, "they" ARE putting dangerous fluoride in our water. Chemtrails.  CPS.   Political control by banksters.  Filming police.  Gun rights..etc etc etc.

See, this is exactly what a "walking false flag" operation would hope to accomplish: blending in real conspiracies with fake conspiracies to taint them ALL with fake conspiracy smell. Fluoride is put in your water to prevent cavities. You don't like it, don't drink or use tap water. There is no such thing as a "chemtrail;" what you are looking at is water vapor that collects in the wake of jet engines.

Political control by banksters IS a real conspiracy. It is easily demonstrable and visible.

Filming police, gun rights are just issues of common sense that I'm sure Alex Jones puts his signature nutty ass spin on.

Maybe he's over the top and makes wild predictions but I don't care.
To quote Barry Goldwater "extremism in defense of liberty is no vice."

Barry Goldwater lost the election BTW.

you apparently missed my point.  what is obvious and common sense to you is not known by the masses, otherwise it wouldn't persist.  iow, if everyone realized how slimy the banksters were, we'd probably all be bitcoiners already.

And who cares if BG lost the election, what's that got to do with anything?
You missed the point of the quote.  I'd rather have AJ ranting and raving like a lunatic
and shedding light on issues than nothing being said just because he comes across as abrasive.
If you don't like him, don't listen, but he's waking people up IMO.

[lonestranger]

Nearly everyone here and on reddit is critical of Alex Jones, and there is A LOT to be critical of.

But I would bet that most of his critics believe the official story of 9-11, as an important example.  If you haven't figured out that was a false flag event (one of MANY) then go ahead and criticize Alex Jones because you are just another know-it-all, arrogant windbag.

Alex Jones is a deeply flawed man, but he IS talking about important stuff.

[duke1839]

call him crazy but he was the only one who predicted 911 ON VIDEO  a few months before it happened. 

Lots of people did. The "X-Files" spinoff "The Lone Gunmen" did an episode about it in early 2001. The 1996 Gena Davis movie "The Long Kiss Goodnight" was about a similar type conspiracy. The 1994 Tom Clancy book "Debt of Honor" is credited as originating the idea.

Don't forget Die Hard with a Vengeance.  Terrorists set off a series of attacks in New York to distract people while they steal gold from the New York Federal Reserve.  Some conspiracy theorists claim that there was Gold stored in WTC 4 which was removed during the confusion of the attack. 

[jonald_fyookball]

the matrix predicted 9-11.  the file that agent smith throws on the desk has neos birthdate as 9-11-2001.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKngMkRjylE

also Simpsons predicted 9-11.

[oceans]

This is a good move, for someone who was and still in a way is skeptical about bitcoin and him still sounding pretty serious on accepting it as a payment is a very good move forward

I personally do not watch his shows or listen but I have heard he does make a lot of sense in what he does speak about.

[btcusury]

He's not really a better person than Dick Cheney or Glenn Beck or anybody else who spews hatred and lies for a living.

There's one obvious big difference. Alex Jones hasn't actually killed anybody, and doesn't advocate war.

See, this is exactly what a "walking false flag" operation would hope to accomplish: blending in real conspiracies with fake conspiracies to taint them ALL with fake conspiracy smell. Fluoride is put in your water to prevent cavities. You don't like it, don't drink or use tap water. There is no such thing as a "chemtrail;" what you are looking at is water vapor that collects in the wake of jet engines.

You can argue that the intention behind water fluoridation is benign, but you can't argue with the scientific studies, which prove that fluoride is highly neurotoxic and that systemic fluoridation (as opposed to topical) does not help prevent cavities. This is fact, and if you believe otherwise you are the biggest fool. Research the full body of scientific studies, not a subset of selected ones by proponents of involuntary mass medication.

Political control by banksters IS a real conspiracy. It is easily demonstrable and visible.

So is the neurotoxicity of fluoride.

Nearly everyone here and on reddit is critical of Alex Jones, and there is A LOT to be critical of.

But I would bet that most of his critics believe the official story of 9-11, as an important example.  If you haven't figured out that was a false flag event (one of MANY) then go ahead and criticize Alex Jones because you are just another know-it-all, arrogant windbag.

Alex Jones is a deeply flawed man, but he IS talking about important stuff.

+1

Terrorism is carried out by the people who benefit from it. If you believe otherwise, you are the victim of brainwashing.

[Koko]

the matrix predicted 9-11.  the file that agent smith throws on the desk has neos birthdate as 9-11-2001.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKngMkRjylE

also Simpsons predicted 9-11.

Also in The Big Lebowski, The Dude writes a check dated September 11th as George Bush Sr. is heard giving a speech in the background. The Dude was in on it.

[ensurance982]

"infowarsstore.com will start using it"

Like him or hate him, he's got a large listener base, and certainly can help introduce lots of people to the usefulness of BTC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crEYF4_5fP8&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=3

Good thing. One at a time. It's always good to see people embracing Bitcoin and its usefulness, even though (or especially when) they used to be against Bitcoin or at least critical of it. It's the best thing to give them time, not to push them and let them see the advantages for themselves!

[nutildah]

There's one obvious big difference. Alex Jones hasn't actually killed anybody, and doesn't advocate war.

If that's your one obvious difference, then I would argue they are actually the same person, because Dick Cheney hasn't actually killed anybody either. He almost did that one time but his hunting partner lived. Yes I know, Dick Cheney caused people to die and I am taking advantage of the flaws in your phrasing.

See, this is exactly what a "walking false flag" operation would hope to accomplish: blending in real conspiracies with fake conspiracies to taint them ALL with fake conspiracy smell. Fluoride is put in your water to prevent cavities. You don't like it, don't drink or use tap water. There is no such thing as a "chemtrail;" what you are looking at is water vapor that collects in the wake of jet engines.

You can argue that the intention behind water fluoridation is benign, but you can't argue with the scientific studies, which prove that fluoride is highly neurotoxic and that systemic fluoridation (as opposed to topical) does not help prevent cavities.

Yes I can argue with it because its not true and this is just stuff you are pulling out of thin air. If fluoridation doesn't help prevent cavities, why is fluoride in almost every single toothpaste?

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/oral-care/products/fluoride-free-toothpaste.htm

If its "highly neurotoxic" as you claim, please supply one case study where fluoridation of tap water resulted in brain damage.

This is fact, and if you believe otherwise you are the biggest fool.

Oh, you should have said this earlier, I would have been more inclined to disengage from seeking a rational explanation for how you arrived at your unreferenced conclusions. Thanks for setting me straight.

Research the full body of scientific studies, not a subset of selected ones by proponents of involuntary mass medication.

Yes it is, and you are ignoring the vast majority of research and evidence which suggests the benefits of water fluoridation outweigh the negatives. You can argue with me till you're blue in the face but it won't change the fact that not a single human being has ever died from "overfluoridation" of their water supply, ever.

Political control by banksters IS a real conspiracy. It is easily demonstrable and visible.

So is the neurotoxicity of fluoride.

Yes, at very high levels. Many ions are neurotoxic at high concentrations, so whats your point? Where's your evidence that its neurotoxic at the suggested levels of 0.5 to 1.0 mg/L; all studies comparing IQ of children born in "high fluoridation" areas involve levels 3-60x higher than this (and took place in China). Usually the excess fluoride has to do with chemicals released by coal-burning power plants and have nothing to do with a grand conspiracy to keep people dumb anyways.

Please keep in mind fluoride is also found in air pollution and a wide variety of food too:

http://fluoridealert.org/content/fresh_foods/

Just so you know, here's who's side you're on in American politics:

"The John Birch Society in the 1950s, founded by John Koch (father of today’s Koch Brothers), saw creeping communism in public water and slammed it as “mass medicine." "

More likely they were just rich evil fucks who didn't want to spend $1 per year on dental care for their workers.

I guarantee you there are plenty of dumbasses who never have a sip of fluoridated water in their entire lives. And the worst part is they have shitty teeth too.

[Bit_Happy]

There's one obvious big difference. Alex Jones hasn't actually killed anybody, and doesn't advocate war.

If that's your one obvious difference, then I would argue they are actually the same person, because Dick Cheney hasn't actually killed anybody either. He almost did that one time but his hunting partner lived. Yes I know, Dick Cheney caused people to die and I am taking advantage of the flaws in your phrasing.

See, this is exactly what a "walking false flag" operation would hope to accomplish: blending in real conspiracies with fake conspiracies to taint them ALL with fake conspiracy smell. Fluoride is put in your water to prevent cavities. You don't like it, don't drink or use tap water. There is no such thing as a "chemtrail;" what you are looking at is water vapor that collects in the wake of jet engines.

You can argue that the intention behind water fluoridation is benign, but you can't argue with the scientific studies, which prove that fluoride is highly neurotoxic and that systemic fluoridation (as opposed to topical) does not help prevent cavities.

Yes I can argue with it because its not true and this is just stuff you are pulling out of thin air. If fluoridation doesn't help prevent cavities, why is fluoride in almost every single toothpaste?

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/oral-care/products/fluoride-free-toothpaste.htm

If its "highly neurotoxic" as you claim, please supply one case study where fluoridation of tap water resulted in brain damage.

This is fact, and if you believe otherwise you are the biggest fool.

Oh, you should have said this earlier, I would have been more inclined to disengage from seeking a rational explanation for how you arrived at your unreferenced conclusions. Thanks for setting me straight.

Research the full body of scientific studies, not a subset of selected ones by proponents of involuntary mass medication.

Yes it is, and you are ignoring the vast majority of research and evidence which suggests the benefits of water fluoridation outweigh the negatives. You can argue with me till you're blue in the face but it won't change the fact that not a single human being has ever died from "overfluoridation" of their water supply, ever.

Political control by banksters IS a real conspiracy. It is easily demonstrable and visible.

So is the neurotoxicity of fluoride.

Yes, at very high levels. Many ions are neurotoxic at high concentrations, so whats your point? Where's your evidence that its neurotoxic at the suggested levels of 0.5 to 1.0 mg/L; all studies comparing IQ of children born in "high fluoridation" areas involve levels 3-60x higher than this (and took place in China). Usually the excess fluoride has to do with chemicals released by coal-burning power plants and have nothing to do with a grand conspiracy to keep people dumb anyways.

Please keep in mind fluoride is also found in air pollution and a wide variety of food too:

http://fluoridealert.org/content/fresh_foods/

Just so you know, here's who's side you're on in American politics:

"The John Birch Society in the 1950s, founded by John Koch (father of today’s Koch Brothers), saw creeping communism in public water and slammed it as “mass medicine."

More likely he was just a rich evil fuck and didn't want to spend $1 per year on dental care for poor people.

I guarantee you there are plenty of dumbasses who never have a sip of fluoridated water in their entire lives. And the worst part is they have shitty teeth too.

I had no idea the John Birch Society was founded by the Koch bros dad, thanks.

[counter]

Long story short he's done way more good then bad.  He ignites discussion on issues the general public would not otherwise be thinking about.  People that say this is bad just don't get it.  He has tons of listeners all over the planet how is that bad for Bitcoin?  I don't get why people who don't like the guy are always to attack him and not so much interested in appreciating the benefits the news brings to Bitcoin.

[nutildah]

Besides, ala the thinking behind "chemtrails," why the fuck would the government go through so much trouble to brainwash its citizens when television and news media are doing such a fucking fantastic job as it is?

I mean, our nightly news is top-notch stupid. The second story the other night was about a baby that dances to Katy Perry songs. The great expose piece was on a fast food joint that took 70 seconds instead of their guaranteed 60 to process your drive-through order. Meanwhile Palestinians are being obliterated by the hundreds, there's 3 wars going on, the greatest inequality in distribution of wealth the world has ever seen is taking place and our democracy has officially turned into a oligarchic corporatocracy.

WHY THE _FUCK_ would the government ALSO need to fluoridate our waters? We are fucking stupid as fuck already. It has nothing to do with fluoride and everything to do with rewarding stupid behavior with MONEY.

You wake up, get to work, shut up, be a team player, keep your head down and get paid. You agree to do all this and we will keep giving you your paycheck, at least for now. You figure out a way to make money for your boss, even if its by ripping other people off, you will get rewarded with a raise. This is bullshit behavior and we validate it with ever-increasing salaries, to the point where hedge funds now control 75% of our country's wealth.

It has fuckall to do with fluoride.

[counter]

Besides, ala the thinking behind "chemtrails," why the fuck would the government go through so much trouble to brainwash its citizens when television and news media are doing such a fucking fantastic job as it is?

I mean, our nightly news is top-notch stupid. The second story the other night was about a baby that dances to Katy Perry songs. The great expose piece was on a fast food joint that took 70 seconds instead of their guaranteed 60 to process your drive-through order. Meanwhile Palestinians are being obliterated by the hundreds, there's 3 wars going on, the greatest inequality in distribution of wealth the world has ever seen is taking place and our democracy has officially turned into a oligarchic corporatocracy.

WHY THE _FUCK_ would the government ALSO need to fluoridate our waters? We are fucking stupid as fuck already. It has nothing to do with fluoride and everything to do with rewarding stupid behavior with MONEY.

You wake up, get to work, shut up, be a team player, keep your head down and get paid. You agree to do all this and we will keep giving you your paycheck, at least for now. You figure out a way to make money for your boss, even if its by ripping other people off, you will get rewarded with a raise. This is bullshit behavior and we validate it with ever-increasing salaries, to the point where hedge funds now control 75% of our country's wealth.

It has fuckall to do with fluoride.

I think it does matter because it's is a stepping stone to a better way of life.  There is a problem in our society and it needs to be fixed simple as that.  When people are concerned with their health and that of their loved ones it restores values in our society that clearly are not what they once were.  I'm not sure why people being force fed toxic waste isn't something that merits attention to you but hey that is just me
.

[beetcoin]

my problem with alex jones is that he is an extremist who uses anger and paranoid to get other angry and paranoid people to follow his belief system. something like this video is pretty a common occurrence for him. in a lot of his interviews, he puts on a tinfoil hat on and talks over his interviewer.

http://youtu.be/_XZvMwcluEg?t=3m

[nutildah]

When people are concerned with their health and that of their loved ones it restores values in our society that clearly are not what they once were. 

Does being concerned for your dental health matter? Does caring about scientific measurements, concentrations, standards and realities matter?

I'm not sure why people being force fed toxic waste isn't something that merits attention to you but hey that is just me.

Fluoride is not toxic waste. Its a single atom missing an electron. You're overexaggerating in order to make a point which does not exist.

[beetcoin]

here's more of how people have come to know alex jones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xHCgcGTRAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhvaI07jmkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3_45pHrnGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APy4j9CY37M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5f8gty0peE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5wBAJgRKlI

damn, there are so many more videos but i just don't want to link them all. he seems bipolar to me. i think i actually like him, as a performance artist. his unbridled anger is pretty hilarious  

[BtcGains]

"infowarsstore.com will start using it"

Like him or hate him, he's got a large listener base, and certainly can help introduce lots of people to the usefulness of BTC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crEYF4_5fP8&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=3

good to see Alex come around... i know he was skeptical a year ago.

Who wouldn't have been skeptical last year with all the silk road disasters as well as mtgox faking trades (not that anyone knew it at the time)
Good news tho

[nutildah]

do you eat toothpaste? no right, fluoride should not be on the drinking water

Lucky for you, only 62% of U.S. drinking water is fluoridated, with this number being much lower in most of the developed world, with the exception of areas where drinking water is contaminated by the products of coal-burning power plants.

However you simply fail to recognize the difference in concentrations of fluoride between toothpaste and drinking water. The amount of fluoride put in tap water was decreased in the late 90s / early 00s by a pretty substantial amount, so the amount of problems it has subsequently caused has decreased from 1 to 0.

Besides, the amount of problems caused by swallowing toothpaste is pretty minimal, in case you didn't know. There's been exactly 1 toothpaste-related death in the past 30 years, making it much safer than cheetos or aspirin.

[ShameOnYou]

"infowarsstore.com will start using it"

Like him or hate him, he's got a large listener base, and certainly can help introduce lots of people to the usefulness of BTC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crEYF4_5fP8&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=3

good to see Alex come around... i know he was skeptical a year ago.

Who wouldn't have been skeptical last year with all the silk road disasters as well as mtgox faking trades (not that anyone knew it at the time)
Good news tho

I think there were a lot of people who believed in bitcoin a year ago. I would argue that the Silk Road seizure got a lot of people to start using bitcoin (for less then legal purposes) and Silk Road in general likely was able to get bitcoin on his feet.

I highly doubt that MtGox was faking trades, although them loosing all those coins did likely hurt bitcoin long term.

I wouldn't say that this Alex guy is going to particularly help bitcoin overall, he doesn't seem like exactly a roll model, although I doubt he would hurt bitcoin either.