Alex Jones is pro-BTC, says his store will begin to accept as payment...

[nutildah]

Educate yourself, I've wasted enough time on this issue. I've looked into this topic and have researched the matter myself for years.  All you care about is calling people names and spreading lies, I'll leave you to it.

Right back at you buddy. Thanks for playing.

[nutildah]

Please point me to where I equated fluoride to mind control.  Now you are flat out making things up, so I won't be able to take anything else you say seriously.

My point is, you keep shifting the argument in order to find a point that is still make-able. The point before yours was that America is brainwashing its citizens with fluoride. Then you modified it in order to continue the argument.

[jcoin200]

Please point me to where I equated fluoride to mind control.  Now you are flat out making things up, so I won't be able to take anything else you say seriously.

My point is, you keep shifting the argument in order to find a point that is still make-able. The point before yours was that America is brainwashing its citizens with fluoride. Then you modified it in order to continue the argument.

Not at all.  And again, I never mentioned "brainwashing."   The FACT that fluoride is a neurotoxin is still a valid argument.  I'm simply stating that there are other reasons in addition to that which do not make sense as to why it is added to drinking water.

[nutildah]

do what you want.  I don't drink fluoridated water.  I also use a shower filter.

Out of curiosity, are you also not going to vaccinate your children?

I'm certain Alex Jones is anti-vaccination because that's how predictable his stance on the issues is.

[mercistheman]

I can only see positive things coming out of a public figure even mentioning bitcoin (sometimes even negative press can increase sales)...
It would seem that the talking heads should be educated...
Whoever is working on btc PR should reach out with a mass mailing to these media types explaining the positive aspects of cryptos.... keep hitting them over the head until they get it and report on it.

[nutildah]

Not at all.  And again, I never mentioned "brainwashing."   The FACT that fluoride is a neurotoxin is still a valid argument.  I'm simply stating that there are other reasons in addition to that which do not make sense as to why it is added to drinking water.

And I'm stating that there are reasons for it which do make sense. There is a vast array of evidence which supports water fluoridation helps prevent cavities, much moreso than there is that levels of fluoride currently present in U.S. tap water supplies is having a negative impact on child development.

http://www.thecommunityguide.org/oral/supportingmaterials/RRfluoridation.html
http://www.oralb.com/topics/fluoride-prevents-cavities.aspx
http://www.ada.org/en/public-programs/advocating-for-the-public/fluoride-and-fluoridation

I concede that in high amounts, yes, Fluoride is probably neurodevelopmentally toxic. But the benefits far outweigh the negatives. The situation is very similar to the whole vaccination scare issue that is also being blown way out of proportion by Alex.

Yes, every once in a while a vaccine mix could be bad or a child could just have a bad reaction to it, but the chances of this happening are virtually nonexistent so it makes sense to keep vaccinating our children, because the positives far outweigh the negatives.

[jonald_fyookball]

do what you want.  I don't drink fluoridated water.  I also use a shower filter.

Out of curiosity, are you also not going to vaccinate your children?

I'm certain Alex Jones is anti-vaccination because that's how predictable his stance on the issues is.

probably not. up to my wife, but she's not crazy about vaccines and she's never heard of AJ.

[mrcashking]

Alec Jones is a tool in my opinion he tends to contradict himself alot.

[btcusury]

I grew up drinking fluoridated water every damn day and I'll be a monkey's uncle if I'm not smarter than every single brainwashee who is here circuitously defending Alex Jones' fat, stupid honor by arguing with me over the merits of water fluoridation.. You're doing a pisspoor job of it and if you think you don't need to provide evidence for your wild, unsubstantiated claims then you are mistaken.

Ahh, this explains it. Were fluoridated water (systemic fluoridation, as opposed to topical) significantly neurotoxic, the implications would be unacceptable to your ego. This is silly though, because only the present moment exists; the past doesn't exist. Nothing is permanent. Even the worst effect of chronic systemic fluoride ingestion, pineal calcification, can be healed.

[keithers]

I read this article yesterday that said that threads here that reference BTC as being a CIA/NSA project are actively being removed here. That isn't true is it?

[keithers]

do what you want.  I don't drink fluoridated water.  I also use a shower filter.

Out of curiosity, are you also not going to vaccinate your children?

I'm certain Alex Jones is anti-vaccination because that's how predictable his stance on the issues is.

probably not. up to my wife, but she's not crazy about vaccines and she's never heard of AJ.

I am fairly confident that vaccines are partly responsible for the large increase in autism in children

[l3sny]

I love Alex. Good he is doing the right thing!

[beetcoin]

alex jones on "vaccines." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZMS4nCLFE

he is just a kooky dude. it's his schtick - anything that is controversial, he'll take the counter mainstream side. sometimes being counter-mainstream ends up being right, other times it ends up being crazy. he's just doing it for show.

[lonestranger]

You're not much of a critical thinker or believer in demonstration of evidence are you?

Nutildah, what do you think happened on 9-11?

[nutildah]

Ahh, this explains it. Were fluoridated water (systemic fluoridation, as opposed to topical) significantly neurotoxic, the implications would be unacceptable to your ego. This is silly though, because only the present moment exists; the past doesn't exist. Nothing is permanent. Even the worst effect of chronic systemic fluoride ingestion, pineal calcification, can be healed.

OK, fair enough.... ??

Nutildah, what do you think happened on 9-11?

Since you asked, in my person opinion I think some bad men hijacked the planes and flew them into the buildings. I think the towers fell on their own accord and I believe pretty much everything in that one Popular Mechanics article on debunking 9/11 conspiracies.

I also believe that the principle of Occam's Razor applies here as with most conspiracy theories.

You can argue that Osama was trained by the CIA and had other motives for his actions than what became the focal point (Iraq) as the result of 9/11, but I get offended when I see all these armchair rocket scientists arguing about the temperature of burning jet fuel and the melting point of steel.

The same instant master architects and construction experts insist they know things they simply do not. Similar to the Sandy Hook conspiracy nuts who are now suddenly all clinical psychologists and long-careered thespians. They're none of those things.

Who needs chemtrails and water fluoridation when you've got Alex Jones, the world's newest and greatest Rush Limbaugh?

[franky1]

ok lets settle the argument on the whole iodine (selling ice to eskimos) and the fluoride mind control

fluoride topically applied to the teeth can prevent tooth decay.. fact
fluoride ingestion can screw with your body.. fact(slow down metabolism and slow down brain function)
iodine has a positive bodily use.. fact
fluoride does not cause 'mind control'.. fact (but can slow down metabolism and slow down brain function)

right now for the science bit which is where alex jones is selling iodine incorrectly.. yet also the opposition have it wrong too.
the thyroid gland is one of the most important glands in your body, it controls growth and controls the whole hormone balance of your body. if you have a decreased thyroid function, one of the symptoms is lethargy the other is early aging, infact there are 30 symptoms mainly metabolic, but lets concentrate on the 2 that conspiracy theorists claim most. this is not to say you are not smart with a lower thyroid function, but it does mean your slower in responding, forgetful, sluggish, less motivated EG 'writers block' or lazyness.

fluorides damage the thyroid system on 4 levels.
 
1. The enzyme manufacture of thyroid hormones within the thyroid gland itself. The process by which iodine is attached to the amino acid tyrosine and converted to the two significant thyroid hormones, thyroxine (T4) and liothyronine (T3), is slowed.
 
2. The stimulation of certain G proteins from the toxic effect of fluoride (whose function is to govern uptake of substances into each of the cells of the body), has the effect of switching off the uptake into the cell of the active thyroid hormone.
 
3. The thyroid control mechanism is compromised. The thyroid stimulating hormone output from the pituitary gland is inhibited by fluoride, thus reducing thyroid output of thyroid hormones.
 
4. Fluoride competes for the receptor sites on the thyroid gland which respond to the thyroid stimulating hormone; so that less of this hormone reaches the thyroid gland and so less thyroid hormone is manufactured.

5. Fluoride is stored in your body and accumulates which can lengthen symptoms even long after being fluoride free

as for the iodine.
many foods contain iodine and your body needs less than one drop a day. your body does not store excess iodine for later use like it does with fats, proteins and fluoride. so even if you drank a litre of iodine, it will not make your metabolism go into hyper mode. you simply pee out what your body does not need (unless the litre of iodine puts you in hospital first).

now then.
when fluoride attaches itself to the tyrosine enzyme (explained in point 1) iodine cannot attach itself. thus your body does not make as much T3/T4. no amount of extra iodine will destroy fluoride to then allow the iodine-enzyme reaction. the only thing that will help is your thyroid gland producing more of the tyrosine enzyme in the hope that there is enough to share between the amount of fluoride in your system and the iodine both trying to attach themselves to the tyrosine enzyme.
again iodine does not destroy fluoride, iodine does not reduce fluoride, iodine does not increase the tyrosine creation.

so alex jones makes out that he is fully alert, and more energetic due to his wonder drug. i am sorry but if you have a dysfunctional /underactive thyroid function due to nature or the possibility that fluoride is messing with your thyroid(points 3 and 4). extra iodine wont help.

iodine is not the cure to fluoride. the cure is to avoid fluoride and take T4 T3 tablets.

now then for the conspiracy theorists. your body can naturally cope with 1 part per million fluoride in water. and if occasionally you end up swallowing your mouth wash your body would over days will use up the excess fluoride that entered your system, (which is why its important to spit and not swallow). as it takes time for your body to react you normally dont notice any effect, as long as your intake of fluoride is not excessively regular.

But a daily overdose of more than 1 part per million of fluoride EVERYDAY will slowly mess you up. again alex jones's other lie is that he instantly feels better taking iodine. Pfft. the T4/T3 (metabolism enablers) doesn't work that quick,. chump!

now that de-myths the iodine / fluoride crap. my next post however will mention where alex jones is missing the point of his conspiracy.

[franky1]

totally putting aside fluoride, this is a separate matter away from fluoride but is linked to the whole thyroid (lazy mind) conspiracy theory

as i explained iodine is essential to make T4-T3 hormones (metabolism and alert mind). but your body only needs a small amount. but in parts of the world iodine is low. and guess what the main dietary component of iodine is in.......... natural salt.

so alex jones should not be selling iodine as a fluoride shield as that's just wrong, but as a supplement for iodine deficiency due to local diet.
and thats where the conspiracy theorists have it half right.

governments are not "mind controlling" but they are increasing the chances of people becoming lazy sheeple. by telling people to not eat as much salt aswell as adding fluoride to water. both of which combine to exacerbate thyroid dysfunction, slowly over time.

[lonestranger]

Since you asked, in my person opinion I think some bad men hijacked the planes and flew them into the buildings. I think the towers fell on their own accord and I believe pretty much everything in that one Popular Mechanics article on debunking 9/11 conspiracies.

I also believe that the principle of Occam's Razor applies here as with most conspiracy theories.

You can argue that Osama was trained by the CIA and had other motives for his actions than what became the focal point (Iraq) as the result of 9/11, but I get offended when I see all these armchair rocket scientists arguing about the temperature of burning jet fuel and the melting point of steel.

The same instant master architects and construction experts insist they know things they simply do not. Similar to the Sandy Hook conspiracy nuts who are now suddenly all clinical psychologists and long-careered thespians. They're none of those things.

Who needs chemtrails and water fluoridation when you've got Alex Jones, the world's newest and greatest Rush Limbaugh?

I knew that would be your answer, I just wanted to confirm it.  You are a man who has very strong opinions but doesn't have good reasons for having them.  Many of us have spent years researching these issues so encountering people like you is very familiar.  You are simply wrong about 9-11, Sandy Hook, and probably most everything in your mental landscape.  But there's absolutely no point in going into the details because your mind is made up before you know the first new thing about them.

You are either lazy, as in "I wouldn't want to have to rearrange my whole belief system to let this startling new information in, so I won't."  Or you are arrogant, as in "If there WERE such huge conspiracies then someone of my intellect would surely have figured it out."  Given the high opinion you've expressed of your mental faculties I'd say it's the latter.

I'd be willing to bet you are a software engineer.

[smoothie]

He obviously was waiting for others to start accepting it. Peter Schiff came around....

Who else? Gerald Celente? Mike Maloney? David Morgan? ...

[Mobius]

I read this article yesterday that said that threads here that reference BTC as being a CIA/NSA project are actively being removed here. That isn't true is it?

LOL, not they are anything but being actively removed here. There are probably 5 or 6 threads about the US government creating BTC. So I guess Alex is behind all these threads. He is certainly a very unique chairector, and I would never say that I don't want any one person to not be behind bitcoin.