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Author Topic: Congratulations to the owner of "19JWKd..."! Winner of 128 BTC on BitLotto  (Read 4889 times)
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May 05, 2011, 03:43:20 AM
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The winning picks were: 46,9,26,39,8,47 ---> d,9,0,7,8,e
The winner's transaction hash: d9283e...
Ticket payment date: April 25 06:07:09 UTC.

Still not sure if that's you? Don't worry! Payment will show up in your account automatically.
If you (winner) can, telling others of your win, online in the Bitcoin forum or on your blog, will help the next jackpot be even bigger! Perhaps you'll win it again!

Anyways, congrats to whoever the winner is and good luck to all those playing in the June 1 draw!!!  Grin
See bitlotto.com if you want to enter.


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May 05, 2011, 06:30:34 AM
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Yes congrats, enjoy my coin Cheesy Better head over and sign-up to try my luck for the next draw Grin.
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May 05, 2011, 12:07:18 PM
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Yes congrats, enjoy my coin Cheesy Better head over and sign-up to try my luck for the next draw Grin.
Good luck! At least it's better odds than most lotteries around.

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May 05, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
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Dang it maybe next time. 200 BTC would be nice a month from now. who knows they could be worth a bit more.
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May 05, 2011, 02:41:04 PM
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Suggestion: Put the "send to" address in the header, and make it large and visible.

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May 05, 2011, 05:30:11 PM
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Congratulations to whoever won, seems like I didn't Tongue

Also, why so much text all on the front page? I think it would be better with less text and instead add some faq or "how it works" page for those interested...  Smiley

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May 05, 2011, 07:01:53 PM
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Thanks guys. I updated the website to be a little better!

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May 05, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
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Also, why so much text all on the front page? I think it would be better with less text and instead

There's one characteristic of this lottery that makes it different from other sites ... winnings are returned only to the exact same bitcoin address from which they were sent.

This means that if you were to send your wager using an eWallet service, such as MyBitcoin, and then won -- someone else will get your winnings.
  - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/EWallet

Additionally, ... you want to make sure your wallet.dat is backed up because if before the draw occurs you were to lose your wallet and then won BitLotto, you couldn't spend your winnings.

That said, if you are going to wager, I know of no other Bitcoin-related gaming that provides better odds than BitLotto.  BitLotto pays 99% and the operator keeps 1% -- a payout that is better than any other Bitcoin-related wagering service that I know of.  And because all wagers and payouts are visible in the block chain, there's no cheating.  That's why BitLotto doesn't provide the ability for each wager to provide a separate bitcoin address for payouts.

There might be one area where I might be concerned.  The amount BitLotto takes in isn't placed in escrow before the draw or as part of the payout.  At just 128 BTC wagered, I wouldn't be terribly concerned but at some point the total for a BitLotto draw will possibly be enormous much larger and well before that point security will become paramount.  As a for-instance, the site does not yet operate with an SSL certificate ( https:// ).

And to be clear -- the laws regarding participation in an online lottery vary based on jurisdiction.

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May 06, 2011, 05:27:44 AM
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There's one characteristic of this lottery that makes it different from other sites ... winnings are returned only to the exact same bitcoin address from which they were sent.

This means that if you were to send your wager using an eWallet service, such as MyBitcoin, and then won -- someone else will get your winnings.
  - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/EWallet

Additionally, ... you want to make sure your wallet.dat is backed up because if before the draw occurs you were to lose your wallet and then won BitLotto, you couldn't spend your winnings.

Yup, I mention it pretty plainly on the site, so I'm hoping no one makes the mistake! (I'd just hate having to add one jackpot to the lost coins list!!!) Just run Bitcoin on your computer and you are good to go! I also link to a site for securing and backing up your wallet. But ya, doesn't hurt mentioning it again!

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That said, if you are going to wager, I know of no other Bitcoin-related gaming that provides better odds than BitLotto.  BitLotto pays 99% and the operator keeps 1% -- a payout that is better than any other Bitcoin-related wagering service that I know of.  And because all wagers and payouts are visible in the block chain, there's no cheating.  That's why BitLotto doesn't provide the ability for each wager to provide a separate bitcoin address for payouts.
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There might be one area where I might be concerned.  The amount BitLotto takes in isn't placed in escrow before the draw or as part of the payout.  At just 128 BTC wagered, I wouldn't be terribly concerned but at some point the total for a BitLotto draw will possibly be enormous much larger and well before that point security will become paramount.  As a for-instance, the site does not yet operate with an SSL certificate ( https:// ).
Agreed! No matter what, you have to trust someone with the money. And by me putting it somewhere else it just adds more people that need to be trusted. I'm working on ways that people can verify that the address is an official one. Not everyone knows how to verify a PGP message. Somehow, I'll set it up so people can also see the addresses at a https site for the time being. As far as securing the jackpot, I have set up procedures on my computer to encrypt and backup the wallet. I'm very paranoid as just ONE missed payment and BitLotto is done. (Even if people can see the money never move, proving a lost wallet, trust would disappear) I also keep a fairly secure computer with full disk encryption so if my computer was stolen no one can take the jackpot.


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May 08, 2011, 09:29:26 PM
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I've had ample time to check it over many times and haven't had to deal with a single complaint so....
Payment sent:
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/818c317608af45aa22972ee77627c11a5be17e0a3cd7e152536d2628abb1f38b
Congrats!  Grin

For those who play, I'm curious. Would you be more inclined to play if the September draw changed to 0.5 BTC per play? Or would you prefer it stay at 1 BTC?  Huh

And, coming soon: BitLotto will have a little python script that will read only your local block chain to figure out jackpot size/valid tickets/and check winner. It will also be able to verify BitLotto draw addresses/messages using the PGP signature.

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May 09, 2011, 07:57:15 AM
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For those who play, I'm curious. Would you be more inclined to play if the September draw changed to 0.5 BTC per play? Or would you prefer it stay at 1 BTC?  Huh

I'm surprised that the fee paid for the transaction was 0.23.  That's an $0.87 USD fee (at current market exchange rate levels).

I wonder if going to 0.5 per ticket might nearly double the amount of fees then.

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May 09, 2011, 08:23:11 AM
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For those who play, I'm curious. Would you be more inclined to play if the September draw changed to 0.5 BTC per play? Or would you prefer it stay at 1 BTC?  Huh

Would it be possible to just allow any payment amounts, and calculate it so that every 0.01 = 1 chance?

Then people could pay say 1.23 btc for 123 chances out of the final total.

I don't know if that would fit in with the way you've set things up.

If all of the above is no good, I'd say keep it at 1 btc for now.

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May 10, 2011, 01:22:57 AM
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For those who play, I'm curious. Would you be more inclined to play if the September draw changed to 0.5 BTC per play? Or would you prefer it stay at 1 BTC?  Huh

Would it be possible to just allow any payment amounts, and calculate it so that every 0.01 = 1 chance?

Then people could pay say 1.23 btc for 123 chances out of the final total.

I don't know if that would fit in with the way you've set things up.

If all of the above is no good, I'd say keep it at 1 btc for now.

Ya, that would be hard to do. The best way to increase your chance is to make more payments. Each single payment adds to your total chance of winning. It's set up so each payment is the "chance".

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May 11, 2011, 03:03:40 AM
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So far, for the June draw, it's reached 39 BTC or about 180 USD!

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May 21, 2011, 12:25:59 AM
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So how do I play?


Which address do I send the one BTC to?

http://www.bitlotto.com/addresses.html
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May 21, 2011, 01:28:10 AM
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So how do I play?


Which address do I send the one BTC to?

http://www.bitlotto.com/addresses.html


15N88gCoJU2pHguHPqFNCapXKvke7UCzr3 is the address I used (the one listed for the June 1st drawing).

However, I noticed there is a discrepancy between the balance of the address (52) and received (67).  There have been 15 BTC sent _from_ that address.  Can you please explain this?

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there is a discrepancy between the balance of the address (52) and received (67).  There have been 15 BTC sent _from_ that address.  Can you please explain this?

When I spot checked a few of the spend transactions I see that they were used as part of the payout for the May 4th draw.  When the May proceeds were forwarded to the winner, the Bitcoin software chose which coins to use when spending that transaction.

If you notice, the address for wagering on the May 4th draw still shows a balance even though all 128 BTC were forwarded to the BitLotto winner: http://blockexplorer.com/address/18dts6fXXA7jVKfYMBpsFqx7iZCELCfDpk

Adding up the balances for each of the draws shows a total slightly higher than the outstanding total wagers yet.  Thus at this point in time the wallet holds enough coins to payout all coins wagered so far.

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May 23, 2011, 12:36:18 AM
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there is a discrepancy between the balance of the address (52) and received (67).  There have been 15 BTC sent _from_ that address.  Can you please explain this?

When I spot checked a few of the spend transactions I see that they were used as part of the payout for the May 4th draw.  When the May proceeds were forwarded to the winner, the Bitcoin software chose which coins to use when spending that transaction.

If you notice, the address for wagering on the May 4th draw still shows a balance even though all 128 BTC were forwarded to the BitLotto winner: http://blockexplorer.com/address/18dts6fXXA7jVKfYMBpsFqx7iZCELCfDpk

Adding up the balances for each of the draws shows a total slightly higher than the outstanding total wagers yet.  Thus at this point in time the wallet holds enough coins to payout all coins wagered so far.

Ya pretty much it. When I first set it up I used multiple addresses with the same wallet. For the prize amount you JUST look at the received amount. Each ticket is the 1 BTC deposit. Right now when I pay a winner it comes out of any of the accounts. Future unpublished draws will not do this to prevent confusion. The draws will just have the payments and the winner will be paid from that specific address at the end. 

On the BitLotto website for the jackpot amount I link to: http://blockexplorer.com/q/getreceivedbyaddress/15N88gCoJU2pHguHPqFNCapXKvke7UCzr3

That gives the total amount. So 73 BTC at time of posting gives about a 1/73 chance of winning the 73 BTC or about 470 USD.

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May 26, 2011, 03:40:12 AM
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Holy crap! Bitcoin almost reached $10 - if that happens, the June 1 draw, could be worth $1000!!

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Makes me wish I could play, that's just enough for my trip home...
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