Daniel91
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August 09, 2014, 10:06:15 AM |
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If Barack Obama really wanted to stop the genocide, then he should have given shipments of heavy weaponry to the Kurdish Peshmerga two weeks ago, when they were fighting the ISIS in Mosul. Now it is too late to save the Yazidis and Assyrians.
I agree with you. Their reaction is always to late and to weak, the same story like in Ukraine. It seems Obama want to do something without risk, but this doesn't work. Sad story is that nobody want to be involved to much in Iraq. |
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wasserman99
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August 09, 2014, 10:38:52 PM |
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If Barack Obama really wanted to stop the genocide, then he should have given shipments of heavy weaponry to the Kurdish Peshmerga two weeks ago, when they were fighting the ISIS in Mosul. Now it is too late to save the Yazidis and Assyrians.
I agree with you. Their reaction is always to late and to weak, the same story like in Ukraine. It seems Obama want to do something without risk, but this doesn't work. Sad story is that nobody want to be involved to much in Iraq. What would happen if these weapons were to end up in the hands of the ISIS? The ISIS has been able to overrun much of the resistance so it would not be out of the question that the location that these weapons would be housed in would get taken over. I think the best solution would have been not to withdraw from the country in the first place. Obama wanted to withdraw so he could use the funds he saved to pay for his liberal policies. |
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August 09, 2014, 10:54:53 PM |
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A limo ride and bad intelligence about the JAYVEE team... Does that mean snowden was wrong about the US hardware capability in space and on the internet? Strange...  Bad intelligence indeed. Clearly ISIS found the WMDs in Iraq and is now using them in the upcoming genocide. The man can do no wrong. It wasn't his bad judgement, it was bad intelligence. I think it was a lack of intelligence... |
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Nathonas
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August 10, 2014, 04:39:47 AM |
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Translation - there's nothing for them to benefit from by sending troops or bombing ISIS. It's all the same political game, you almost never ever see a country do something out of the kindness of its heart. The West stood by when Rwanda happened, this will probably be the same.
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All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
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Mobius
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August 10, 2014, 05:56:23 AM |
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A limo ride and bad intelligence about the JAYVEE team... Does that mean snowden was wrong about the US hardware capability in space and on the internet? Strange... Bad intelligence indeed. Clearly ISIS found the WMDs in Iraq and is now using them in the upcoming genocide. The man can do no wrong. It wasn't his bad judgement, it was bad intelligence. I think it was a lack of intelligence... The Obama administration, overall is not very good with intelligence. I don't think the ISIS found any WMD, but rather are using traditional weapons (guns) to kill citizens in mass. |
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Honeypot
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August 10, 2014, 06:38:53 AM |
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Obama is not only unprofessional and grossly out of his league, but even worse actually believes his 'righteous' attitude is something other than 1st world privilege talking just because he's half black. He is the perfect example of vapid weak mentality of today's generation that thinks having some tan in your skin makes you 'unique'.
The whole world is laughing at his ignorant childish attitude, and russia or china certainly do not take him seriously. Whole of middle east firmly believes he is a coward. Interestingly that is not too far from the truth. Even general mccrystal, who was promoted from serving in the special forces, commented that obama was visibly intimidated and demur in front of generals and armed force personnel.
Most people in his administration are in one of two camps: the ass kissers who are useless and impotent with any real issues, and more experienced people who tune him out and just scratch his head when he wants it, while trying to minimize the damage his mouth does where ever he goes.
The boy obama needs to check his reality, because he should know by now negro/black reality is something of a fantasy and certainly a good comedy material in the eyes of the world.
In regards to iraq war, it started long before the 80s due to certain saddam hussein taking power.
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bryant.coleman
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August 10, 2014, 06:41:37 AM |
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There was nothing wrong with the intelligence information. But Obama had earlier suppressed the intelligence, so that his allies (Qatar & Saudi Arabia) could continue arming the ISIS in Syria.
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Honeypot
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August 10, 2014, 06:43:58 AM |
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There was nothing wrong with the intelligence information. But Obama had earlier suppressed the intelligence, so that his allies (Qatar & Saudi Arabia) could continue arming the ISIS in Syria.
If this is so, that means obama was once again taken for a ride. He is so gullible he makes g.w bush look like a genius politician. In fact, I would rate our former president much higher compared to the incumbent. At least when he was around people listened, whether they liked or not. Now no one takes obama seriously - a well known fact around the world and even within his own administration. |
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Tzupy
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August 10, 2014, 07:09:54 PM |
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Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
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kuroman
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August 10, 2014, 07:17:00 PM |
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isn't this a contradicting news with what was annoucend aka, a long term plan which will include airstrikes, but probably arming the Iraqi army, I feel like that source isn't that reliable tho
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Tzupy
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August 10, 2014, 07:21:49 PM |
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isn't this a contradicting news with what was annoucend aka, a long term plan which will include airstrikes, but probably arming the Iraqi army, I feel like that source isn't that reliable tho
Iraqi army had enough weapons to fight ISIS, but Sunni officers betrayed the Shia government (which oppressed Sunnis) and many of those weapons are now in the hands of ISIS. The US should urgently give weapons to the kurds, who are bearing the brunt of the ISIS offensive now. However, I doubt Obummer will do this. |
Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
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kuroman
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August 10, 2014, 07:46:43 PM |
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isn't this a contradicting news with what was annoucend aka, a long term plan which will include airstrikes, but probably arming the Iraqi army, I feel like that source isn't that reliable tho
Iraqi army had enough weapons to fight ISIS, but Sunni officers betrayed the Shia government (which oppressed Sunnis) and many of those weapons are now in the hands of ISIS. The US should urgently give weapons to the kurds, who are bearing the brunt of the ISIS offensive now. However, I doubt Obummer will do this. Yes I'm following the situation in Iraq, and I don't know why the US left such government in place, from the get go they were opressing Sunnis (and Iraq become a good strong hold for Iran) not to mention how they allowed the country to be divided and with Kurds taking a lot of territories in north. As for the offensive when I look at maps, I see that Isis used the path that separate Kurd control area and Iraqi controlled area to penetrate Iraq from Syria, |
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Mobius
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August 11, 2014, 12:31:21 AM |
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There was nothing wrong with the intelligence information. But Obama had earlier suppressed the intelligence, so that his allies (Qatar & Saudi Arabia) could continue arming the ISIS in Syria.
I don't think either of those countries were arming the ISIS. They both have a vested interest in peace in the middle east as if there is war in that area then it could spread to their countries. Both countries have a very weak military and could be overrun by the US or most of any one European country. |
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August 11, 2014, 02:09:35 AM |
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Saudi Arabia has quite an impressive and powerful military iirc.
to the guy below who asks why the US left the government it did. Bush had no balls and got suckered by whathisname the current dude in power, even when it started to show that the guy would attack the Sunnis he just let it happen and then Obama got elected on the promise that he leave Iraq and put less focus on the middle east and hasn't given a shit, well maybe he's given two shits about the middle east when theres domestic stuff to focus on.
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Gimpeline
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August 11, 2014, 05:15:04 AM |
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Ask others to start another crusade, I hear Ethiopa has a lot of Christians. America should sit this one out.
They dont have oil so its not worth it |
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kuroman
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August 11, 2014, 10:14:45 AM |
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There was nothing wrong with the intelligence information. But Obama had earlier suppressed the intelligence, so that his allies (Qatar & Saudi Arabia) could continue arming the ISIS in Syria.
I don't think either of those countries were arming the ISIS. They both have a vested interest in peace in the middle east as if there is war in that area then it could spread to their countries. Both countries have a very weak military and could be overrun by the US or most of any one European country. Actually they weren't arming ISIS as it is, The west + those states were arming/training/financing separatist groups in Syria, but the problems started to arise the conflict started to be long in time, and a fracture in supporting those groups after the events happening in Libya made things worst and make room for extremism and groups like Alqaeda in, with Bachar holding ground things degenerated and the devision in Iraq makes things easier especially with how Sunnis were threated there in recent years |
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