Possum577 (OP)
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August 08, 2014, 05:50:12 PM |
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Will full Bitcoin adoption require that retailers transact almost exclusively Bitcoin? Similar to small shops in our local communities that only deal in cash and not debit or credit.
The retailer doesn't have to accept fiat when there are so many easy ways for buyers to exchange their fiat into Bitcoin. Also, if retailers only accept Bitcoin it will force buyers to engage in the full process of acquiring Bitcoin, having a wallet, and then spending that Bitcoin. If retailers have fiat as a payment option side-by-side with Bitcoin I don't think many people will choose Bitcoin (as new users), because they already have fiat and the retailer will accept it.
What does the community think about this?
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jjc326
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August 08, 2014, 06:02:54 PM |
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If this is going to happen it won't be for a long time. There would need to be more, gasp, rules and regulations in roder for shops and big stores to accept only Bitcoin, don't you think? Like Macy's is not going to only accept Bitcoin, how would they know what to do with it? They'd need to trade it for fiat, and with all the BTC question marks it would be a mjor hassle that they don't see the benefit of I'm sure.
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franky1
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August 08, 2014, 06:10:00 PM |
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adoption vs replacement
OP's idea is not adoption, its replacement. and to give the short answer, goodluck running down that path before you learnt to walk
EG users class ebay as being main stream adopted by consumers. that does not mean there is no alternative/choice.
pepsi and coca-cola work side by side walmart and 711 mcdonalds and burger king dollar euro pound yen bitcoin
they can all work side by side. its strange to think that investment people will only invest in one thing because someone on a forum wants to irradicate all other investments. its strange to think that consumers will only spend in one currency because someone on a forum wants to irradicate all other currencies.
especially when he has not done the maths to realise that bitcoin doesnt need to have 100% population grab with 100% life savings for a currency to function.
especially when the OP has no understanding of bitcoin to know that bitcoin is not just about using in a shop.
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TimS
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August 08, 2014, 06:15:03 PM |
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No, of course not.
Credit card adoption didn't require that retailers stop accepting cash. People can simply see how much better it is (don't have to deal with change or writing checks, buy now pay later, rewards for using), and transition on their own. Once retailers start passing on the savings they get, people will see how much better Bitcoin is than credit cards, and transition.
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Possum577 (OP)
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August 08, 2014, 06:26:14 PM Last edit: August 09, 2014, 05:49:34 AM by Possum577 |
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adoption vs replacement
This is a great distinction! To the great examples listed for the adoption of Paypal or Credit Cards, you're right in that they didn't require that no other form of payment be accepted. So perhaps a better question is, for best adoption should retailers say "We accept BTC, and also cash, credit, paypal, etc" or should they just list BTC at the end of the existing familiar list of payment options?
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Muhammed Zakir
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August 08, 2014, 06:29:18 PM |
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No, of course not.
Credit card adoption didn't require that retailers stop accepting cash. People can simply see how much better it is (don't have to deal with change or writing checks, buy now pay later, rewards for using), and transition on their own. Once retailers start passing on the savings they get, people will see how much better Bitcoin is than credit cards, and transition.
In most countries BTC isn't known. That's the problem. First we need to make a class on BTC in countries and tell them to test it (which can be done with testnet, IMO) . Then they will be aware of BTC and starts looking forward about it because of the following reasons : Fast, Easy, Reliable, Anonymous (Hiding private details like address) etc... Kindly, MZ
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August 08, 2014, 06:42:15 PM |
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Will full Bitcoin adoption require that retailers transact almost exclusively Bitcoin? Similar to small shops in our local communities that only deal in cash and not debit or credit.
The retailer doesn't have to accept fiat when there are so many easy ways for buyers to exchange their fiat into Bitcoin. Also, if retailers only accept Bitcoin it will force buyers to engage in the full process of acquiring Bitcoin, having a wallet, and then spending that Bitcoin. If retailers have fiat as a payment option side-by-side with Bitcoin I don't think many people will choose Bitcoin (as new users), because they already have fiat and the retailer will accept it.
What does the community think about this?
No it won't retailers accept multiples forms of payment already. Bitcoin will be just another form they accept. The customer may chose. This is a nice way of letting the customer chose how he/she wishes to pay for their goods or services. Even a modest adoption would give Bitcoin a lot of traction!
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August 08, 2014, 07:06:59 PM |
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You can accept BTC as a additional payment method, but in most countries there are laws against accepting only other currencies, against the countries fiat currency.
When the government decide to accept only BTC it would be no problem for the merchants to do that.
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waldox
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August 08, 2014, 07:36:57 PM |
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hopefully one day some retailers will just accept cash or bitcoin and bypass credit cards or bank cards just like a lot of restaurants in my area are cash only
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franky1
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August 08, 2014, 07:47:45 PM |
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adoption vs replacement
This is a great distinction! To the great examples listed for the adoption of Paypal or Credit Cards, you're right in that they didn't require that not other form of payment be accepted. So perhaps a better question is, for best adoption should retailers say "We accept BTC, and also cash, credit, paypal, etc" or should they just list BTC at the end of the existing familiar list of payment options? for bricks and mortar stores it is general knowledge that cash and cards are accepted. so only requires "bitcoin accepted here" stickers to be highlighted. as for online, as long as bitcoin is in the list without having to scroll down a page or click an extra button just to realise bitcoin is also taken, the order of the list doesnt matter either. (though bitcoin fans love to see it seen first place)
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August 08, 2014, 08:23:20 PM |
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Replacing real cash with bitcoin could be something that is way further into the future than many may think. I personally don't see it happening any time soon to be honest and even if it did there would have to be so many regulations put onto it, it could become ridiculous. Until businesses big and small knew they were safe to accept bitcoin I don't see many taking the plunge.
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August 08, 2014, 08:38:46 PM |
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I also don't think that full BTC adoption means that Retailers will accept only Bitcoin as way of payment. It's not realistic that all their customers will accept Bitcoin right away, just because Bitcoin is payment option. It's long way to go until Bitcoin from main alternative currency become main currency and even then still many people will be more comfortable with Dollars, Euro etc.
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August 08, 2014, 09:48:03 PM |
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No, not by any means. Full adoption would mean nearly every retailer offering to accept BTC right along side fiat.
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mrcashking
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August 08, 2014, 09:50:32 PM Last edit: August 08, 2014, 10:07:04 PM by mrcashking |
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No, fiat will still exist. So it will always be an option as long as big governments exist. I think they will use btc to prop up the dollar.
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Cranky4u
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August 08, 2014, 09:52:19 PM |
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IMHO - we are more likely to see BTC supplement fiat and credit cards. The vast majority of the public are debt serfs and require credit to run their lives, paying interest to their masters.
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wasserman99
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August 09, 2014, 12:04:30 AM |
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IMHO - we are more likely to see BTC supplement fiat and credit cards. The vast majority of the public are debt serfs and require credit to run their lives, paying interest to their masters.
I agree with this. A store that only accepts one payment method will be at a disadvantage competitively. This is why stores accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and discover instead of just Visa. I think more stores accepting bitcoin and offering a discount for using it will increase adoption.
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August 09, 2014, 01:18:24 AM |
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The best way for brick and mortar stores to start accepting BTC and spread the use of BTC would be for them to follow the offer that some online stores have offered, 10% discount on purchases with BTC. Cash is cash, any b&m store hopes that all their customers would use cash to avoid the fees associated with accepting credit cards payments, but when accepting BTC, those fees petty much disappear. Might be best for them to start at 10% for initial interest into the idea of paying with BTC, then after so much time, possibly lower the discount to 5%.
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August 09, 2014, 01:53:06 AM |
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Forcing Bitcoin on people is not the point so I don't think that would ever happen. It's a matter of choice when you use Bitcoin, IMO that is why it is special. When I think of a adoption I think of Bitcoin competing with other forms of payment options. Giving the consumers the ability to choose which they'd rather use is why Bitcoin is as big as it is right now.
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Beliathon
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August 09, 2014, 04:11:19 AM |
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Will full Bitcoin adoption require that retailers transact almost exclusively Bitcoin? No, it won't. Those things will happen around roughly the same time though. When Bitcoin reaches 80%+ market saturation globally, fiat will soon cease to exist (have no value). I cannot speak with certainty about the fate of gold or altcoins, but I'd cautiously argue that the outlook is poor for both. Bitcoin is the only place I truly feel my money is safe right now.
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Unluckyduck
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August 09, 2014, 04:24:31 AM |
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Nope. That will never happen. But that's ok cause as long as many see it as a viable payment option then it has succeeded.
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