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May 05, 2011, 04:15:39 PM
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I sent my bitcoins a 30 minutes ago and it hasn't shown up in my funds....what the heck is going on?
Are you sure you've sent your coins to the right address? You can check at www.blockexplorer.com/address/[your_address] if your transaction is in the bitcoin network. I've just checked the URL with your account's address and cannot find the transaction there. So it's no problem from my side, be assured that your coins are not lost once they get to me Smiley
Does your bitcoin client list the transaction as sent? Sometimes it takes a little lower to get a transaction accepted from the bitcoin network.

Edit: Ok, I've checked. You've made a very small amount and the bitcoin network takes longer to verify it because you didn't include a small fee for the block's miner. I've now accepted your deposit manually, so you can play right now Cool If you don't want to wait in the future you should either made bigger transaction or you should add a small fee in the bitcoin software (this does not depend on me, but on the whole network!).

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May 05, 2011, 05:27:43 PM
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Very well made! But if I can recommend you something: add balance so that it's more visible when playing.

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May 05, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
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Is this "real" Blackjack where you can card count, or "fake" Blackjack with random numbers?

Just curious. Looks very nice!

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May 05, 2011, 06:40:07 PM
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Hi, I really enjoyed gambling with Bitcoins, but all of the games I found were only passive.
This high roller won his first game! Hope to see more people playing with more outlets! A Texas Hold'em would be great!

We don't ever plan on implementing Blackjack, but https://betco.in has poker. Hold'em only right now (NL and limit), but we are planning to fix up Omaha and Stud as well.

Not trying to steal customers here - again, we don't have any plans on implementing house games like blackjack or craps as far as I know - but I've seen people asking for BTC holdem a few places and well, it already exists Smiley

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May 05, 2011, 07:10:10 PM
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You really should add ssl to your page, you can get a cert for free from startssl.com for example.
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May 05, 2011, 08:31:28 PM
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Very well made! But if I can recommend you something: add balance so that it's more visible when playing.
Good idea, thanks, will do that soon!

Is this "real" Blackjack where you can card count, or "fake" Blackjack with random numbers?
It's "real". I get a batch of random numbers from random.org which determine the position of each card in the stack. Though you cannot really count if you don't play many games in a short time, as the cards for all games are played from the same stack of cards.

You really should add ssl to your page, you can get a cert for free from startssl.com for example.
I don't know if that is possible with my hoster (1btchost.com). If not I will *maybe* change hosters, though I only want to use services that accept Bitcoins. Yes, although my site not 100% "green" it's 100% "Bitcoin" Cool

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May 05, 2011, 08:34:45 PM
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I like it so far except I ran into an annoying situation:

I'm dealt 3 2 .. I hit and get a 10 ... hit again and get a 6 ... I have 21.

Dealer started off with a K and flips over an A after I drew out my 21, I lose.

If the dealer has 21 right off the bat and I don't then I should lose automatically, not play to lose.

I know it's a work in progress but that sucked.

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May 05, 2011, 08:40:54 PM
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The dealer only gets one card. If you wouldn't have taken your last card (the 10), then the dealer would have gotten it instead of the A. So, you really have to play, as this impacts also the cards that the dealer gets.

I know that there are different rules depending on the Casino. I've played at locations where the dealer would get a second card which is not revealed. But in the most Casinos where I play the dealer only gets one card and this is how I implemented this on my site.

Is this okay for everyone, or should I change this?

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May 05, 2011, 08:48:41 PM
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The dealer only gets one card. If you wouldn't have taken your last card (the 10), then the dealer would have gotten it instead of the A. So, you really have to play, as this impacts also the cards that the dealer gets.

I know that there are different rules depending on the Casino. I've played at locations where the dealer would get a second card which is not revealed. But in the most Casinos where I play the dealer only gets one card and this is how I implemented this on my site.

Is this okay for everyone, or should I change this?

I've played all over the US and I've never seen a time where the dealer only got 1 card then got the next card after all the players had completed their turn.

If you're going to do it that way then it should be a tie since the dealer drew 21 against my 21 ... not I lose because they ended up getting 21 also.

It's an interesting concept, especially since we're playing solo. I would be ok with it as long as the change above is implemented.

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May 05, 2011, 09:03:14 PM
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I get a 10 A for 21 .. stand

Dealer has a 7 and draws a 7 for 14 after I stand and the game stopped there and said I won.

The dealer did not complete the draw to => 17 or bust.


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May 05, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
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Splitting (especially A's) would be nice also.

I'm hope that's in the future.

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May 05, 2011, 11:23:42 PM
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So it is solo, you against against the dealer.

I prefer a table with multiple players ... safety in numbers. Any plans to implement multi-player tables?

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May 06, 2011, 01:36:08 AM
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i think your bitcoind crashed again....site seems real sluggish too..is that normal?
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May 06, 2011, 02:43:21 AM
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Game ID: 89dfd24c1745608f36fab43f106e7fda

I get a 10 A for 21 .. stand

Dealer has a 7 and draws a 7 for 14 after I stand and the game stopped there and said I won.

The dealer did not complete the draw to => 17 or bust.



Maybe because a BJ will beat any other 21, so he didn't bother? Hmm, guess he wouldn't need the second card either in that case.

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May 06, 2011, 04:23:59 AM
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Game ID: 89dfd24c1745608f36fab43f106e7fda

I get a 10 A for 21 .. stand

Dealer has a 7 and draws a 7 for 14 after I stand and the game stopped there and said I won.

The dealer did not complete the draw to => 17 or bust.



Maybe because a BJ will beat any other 21, so he didn't bother? Hmm, guess he wouldn't need the second card either in that case.

Well, a BJ beats anything in my book.

Erm, okay back to the cards, people.

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May 06, 2011, 04:29:23 AM
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Game ID: 89dfd24c1745608f36fab43f106e7fda

I get a 10 A for 21 .. stand

Dealer has a 7 and draws a 7 for 14 after I stand and the game stopped there and said I won.

The dealer did not complete the draw to => 17 or bust.



Maybe because a BJ will beat any other 21, so he didn't bother? Hmm, guess he wouldn't need the second card either in that case.

Except in this version (currently) the dealer doesn't have a hole card. The dealer only has 1 card showing then draws the rest of it's cards after the player stands. If I start off with blackjack then the dealer should play it's hand out to try to draw to a push. In this case it only drew one card for a total of 14 and did not meet the criteria of drawing to >=17.

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May 06, 2011, 05:37:17 AM
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Game ID: 89dfd24c1745608f36fab43f106e7fda

I get a 10 A for 21 .. stand

Dealer has a 7 and draws a 7 for 14 after I stand and the game stopped there and said I won.

The dealer did not complete the draw to => 17 or bust.



Maybe because a BJ will beat any other 21, so he didn't bother? Hmm, guess he wouldn't need the second card either in that case.

Except in this version (currently) the dealer doesn't have a hole card. The dealer only has 1 card showing then draws the rest of it's cards after the player stands. If I start off with blackjack then the dealer should play it's hand out to try to draw to a push. In this case it only drew one card for a total of 14 and did not meet the criteria of drawing to >=17.

Ah, maybe it's like he does have a hole card, and the second card is just the 'hole' card being turned over to see and then there is no draw because you have BJ.

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May 06, 2011, 05:38:18 AM
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The dealer only gets one card. If you wouldn't have taken your last card (the 10), then the dealer would have gotten it instead of the A. So, you really have to play, as this impacts also the cards that the dealer gets.

I know that there are different rules depending on the Casino. I've played at locations where the dealer would get a second card which is not revealed. But in the most Casinos where I play the dealer only gets one card and this is how I implemented this on my site.

Is this okay for everyone, or should I change this?

I've played all over the US and I've never seen a time where the dealer only got 1 card then got the next card after all the players had completed their turn.

If you're going to do it that way then it should be a tie since the dealer drew 21 against my 21 ... not I lose because they ended up getting 21 also.

It's an interesting concept, especially since we're playing solo. I would be ok with it as long as the change above is implemented.
First of all, I'm not from the US so maybe that's why the rules you and me know differ Grin

In this example the dealer got K A which is a BlackJack and therefore beats your "normal" 21!

So no bug, but a feature.

Game ID: 89dfd24c1745608f36fab43f106e7fda

I get a 10 A for 21 .. stand

Dealer has a 7 and draws a 7 for 14 after I stand and the game stopped there and said I won.

The dealer did not complete the draw to => 17 or bust.

You've got a BlackJack. The only chance for the dealer to not lose is to also get a BlackJack (then the result would be a tie), therefore he draws just a second card. But it's true that after the first 7 there is no chance for the dealer to get a BlackJack so the game should have just ended after your BlackJack. I'll improve the BlackJack check!

Splitting (especially A's) would be nice also.

I'm hope that's in the future.

That will be implemented once I've ironed out all the other bugs Smiley

Any plans to implement multi-player tables?
Yes, definitely! Smiley

i think your bitcoind crashed again....site seems real sluggish too..is that normal?
True, bitcoind crashed again. The good thing is that you can still play in this case, only depositing and withdrawing and registering new accounts is affected. I don't know why bitcoind keeps crashing (or getting stalled in this case). I'll implement an auto restarter, maybe every hour, to work around this.


Thanks for all your feedback it's really appreciated! And keep playing, in about four hours I will count the winning members (see first post) out and give them their bonus Smiley

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May 06, 2011, 05:41:51 AM
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Game ID: 89dfd24c1745608f36fab43f106e7fda

I get a 10 A for 21 .. stand

Dealer has a 7 and draws a 7 for 14 after I stand and the game stopped there and said I won.

The dealer did not complete the draw to => 17 or bust.



Maybe because a BJ will beat any other 21, so he didn't bother? Hmm, guess he wouldn't need the second card either in that case.

Except in this version (currently) the dealer doesn't have a hole card. The dealer only has 1 card showing then draws the rest of it's cards after the player stands. If I start off with blackjack then the dealer should play it's hand out to try to draw to a push. In this case it only drew one card for a total of 14 and did not meet the criteria of drawing to >=17.

Ah, maybe it's like he does have a hole card, and the second card is just the 'hole' card being turned over to see and then there is no draw because you have BJ.

Right now, it's this:
1. dealer gets first card which is shown
2. player gets two cards
3. player plays
4. dealer plays

So the second card for the dealer is not the "hole" card you know from US BlackJack. I see that the European rules I know may differ from the rules the majority here knows. Overall it shouldn't really make a difference if the dealer gets a second card earlier or later. I just personally like the fact that by your acting (how many cards you draw) you influence the card the dealer gets! That sometimes makes for some funny "Ouch, if I hadn't drawn the last card "3" the dealer would have gotten the "3" instead of the "A"" Smiley

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May 06, 2011, 06:34:28 AM
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You've got a BlackJack. The only chance for the dealer to not lose is to also get a BlackJack (then the result would be a tie), therefore he draws just a second card. But it's true that after the first 7 there is no chance for the dealer to get a BlackJack so the game should have just ended after your BlackJack. I'll improve the BlackJack check!


The rules I am used to is that if the dealer does not have blackjack and the player gets blackjack the dealer still has a chance to draw out 21 to push. Blackjack (A plus 10/face card) does not beat a non A+10 that still adds up to 21, they push.

However, again what I am used to, if the dealer has a A or 10/face card showing they check the hole card for the other card that makes blackjack and if the player is not showing blackjack the house wins automatically. This is part of the house advantage that the player can't overcome because even if the player has blackjack the dealer can still draw out 21 for a push.

(However the play ends up being you really need to someone analyze it to make sure that you have a house advantage.)

Edit: I just looked it up http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/strategy/european.html and it indeed does look like a legit type of blackjack. You might want to specify that this is European/UK blackjack vs American style. That would be frustrating as all hell for me to be in a casino and pull out a 6 card 21, on a split, or even double after a split, and the dealer pull a blackjack to beat all of it, I'd rather lose to a blackjack up front.  

If you really want a mind twister, go look up Spanish 21 rules, that's big where I'm at. All (number only) 10 cards are taken out of the deck, player gets paid immediately upon getting 21, even if the dealer ends up having blackjack. You are allowed to double down more than once, but you have to double the amount on the table ... if you bet 5 and double, you can double again for 10 more for the next card.

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