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August 09, 2014, 08:00:12 AM
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bad site, hate it.
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August 10, 2014, 02:40:39 AM
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I think one trust rating is enough

Now everytime I send ONE message to him, he adds another neg trust.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152722

anyone else see this as BS or is it reasonable for him to spam my trust profile with his ratings?

Have you tried NOT PMing him? Obviously, he doesn't want you to. He should just add you to his blocked list and forget about it if it bothers him that badly.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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August 14, 2014, 04:42:19 AM
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I ended up posting negative feedback about you four times:

1) I tried discussing your scam with you on your scam thread. You deleted my posts, so I left negative feedback saying you were running a scam, and gave details. That was 2014-03-24. That is what the trust feedback system is for. I hope you don't dispute that feedback. If you do, let's hear it.

2) After I posted saying that you were running a scam, you PMed me, threatening to post groundless retaliatory negative feedback about myself if I didn't remove my feedback. You then went on to actually do so. That's an abuse of the system, so I posted feedback saying that you were abusing the system.

3) You started bombarding me with increasingly unpleasant PMs. You suggested that the PMs wouldn't stop until I removed the valid feedback I had already posted about you. I responded by posting screenshots of some of your PMs to warn others about how you behave.

4) You kept on PMing me, and I posted pretty much the same as my 3rd post again, only shorter, in the hope that you would be able to understand it that time.

I see now you have been posting feedback about me, but in the form of messages to me. I don't read my own trust feedback - it's not mean for me, it's meant for people who are considering dealing with me. Things like:

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What the hell is your problem?
You said to me that if I remained a legitimate user that you would remove the negative trust.

suggest to me that you don't understand what the system is for. I never said I would remove negative trust. I said I left it because you ran a scam. I said that if I saw you doing something trustworthy, I would leave positive feedback, but that's not the same thing.

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You know what, I don't even care about your trust anymore

and yet you've brought it up yet again? I don't believe you.

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I haven't done anything related to scamming at all

You were asking people for coins to gamble with, because you had a winning system. For fuck sake.

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Dooglus CONDONES PONZI SCHEMES

Almost every ponzi scheme on the forum tries to hide the fact that it is a ponzi scheme. They claim to have a legitimate source of income that makes them their riches. Usually day trading or mining. One time a guy appeared saying he was running a ponzi scheme, and that he had no way of paying interest other than from new players joining. There is nothing wrong with such a scheme. The thing that is wrong with most ponzi schemes is that the operator disguises the fact that it is a ponzi scheme. If someone wants to run a ponzi, tell you it's a ponzi, and you still willingly get involved then I see nothing wrong with that at all.

Do you?

As for your suggestion that I was running that one scheme, you're wrong. I've no idea who it was. I just thought it was great to see someone being honest about things for a chance.

I've never used "sockpuppet" accounts here, with the possible exception of an account called "Just-Dice" which I made shortly before launching JD, but ended up decided not to use. If it isn't posted under the name "dooglus" here, then I didn't write it.

I doubt you could say the same thing. I seen posts from other accounts with writing ticks that very closely resemble yours.

Now everytime I send ONE message to him, he adds another neg trust

That's not true. You have sent me lots and lots of PMs. I have left you 4 feedbacks, 3 of which were relative to quite different things.

Have you tried NOT PMing him? Obviously, he doesn't want you to. He should just add you to his blocked list and forget about it if it bothers him that badly.

I've never had to ignore anyone. If someone is going to behave in such an anti-social manner, don't you think they deserve to get called out over it?

If they also run a gambling scam, don't they deserve to get called out over that too?

And misuse of the trust system also seems worth pointing out, in case others were thinking he might be worth dealing with.

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August 14, 2014, 04:48:10 AM
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Well when you're running some type of shady scheme, it's kind of an expected reaction isn't it? it would be totally different if you weren't guaranteeing profit. If you implicitly stated the risks and such, it would be different. I agree with Dooglus giving you the negative trust. If you were deleting his posts, he has a right to open a scam accusation and leave negative trust. That's how it works around here.

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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August 14, 2014, 04:51:38 AM
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I agree with Dooglus giving you the negative trust. If you were deleting his posts, he has a right to open a scam accusation and leave negative trust.

The first two times he ran his scam, he used a regular style thread for it, and of course they were both overrun with sensible people pulling his scam to pieces, pointing out all the ways it was obviously a scam.

So the third time he tried running it, he made the thread "self moderated", so that potential marks wouldn't have to be scared off by all the annoying people pointing out that his scam was a scam.

I expect the threads are still on the forum if anyone wants to dig them up.

Personally I've wasted more than enough time on this troll.

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August 22, 2014, 09:31:37 AM
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 Since you want a new account how about I get your account Cheesy I am willing to buy it from you Cheesy It has a wonderful name but a shitty trust page so I will buy it for either free or something similar ( maybe just a couple thousand satoshi Cheesy )
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August 22, 2014, 05:45:11 PM
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now tomatocage is on the bandwagon.
fine with me, time for a new account. sad it had to come to this.

Please don't spam up the "What the heck is dooglus' problem" thread with posts about tomatocage. That is clearly offtopic.

Please make a separate "What the heck is tomatocage's problem" thread if you need to find out what the heck tomatocage's problem is, and leave this thread for investigation into what the heck my problem might be.

Thank you.

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August 22, 2014, 05:54:24 PM
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 Doog would you be deleting your negative trust if I purchase this account?
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August 22, 2014, 06:06:20 PM
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Doog would you be deleting your negative trust if I purchase this account?

No, I don't delete negative trust, because things don't unhappen.

I would have no way of knowing for sure that you're not just a sockpuppet of the original owner anyway.

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August 22, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
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 Nevermind than , I thought the name was cool but a negative trust kills it off :/

 Not interested in buying anymore
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Nevermind than , I thought the name was cool but a negative trust kills it off :/

Not interested in buying anymore

What the heck is your problem?

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August 22, 2014, 06:41:23 PM
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 I am out of order? You are out of order , maybe this whole topic is out of order?
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ever though of contacting a staff member/admin and talk with them?
if the negative trust is bs, they might remove it.

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August 23, 2014, 12:17:49 AM
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ever though of contacting a staff member/admin and talk with them?
if the negative trust is bs, they might remove it.

No, they won't.

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August 23, 2014, 05:10:47 AM
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I've never used "sockpuppet" accounts here

Nice try, but your avatar is clearly a sockpuppet. Can't fool me.
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August 23, 2014, 07:04:01 PM
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I think one trust rating is enough

Now everytime I send ONE message to him, he adds another neg trust.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152722

anyone else see this as BS or is it reasonable for him to spam my trust profile with his ratings?

Its probably a sign to stop pm'ing him. I think thats whats annoying him, you keep asking him to remove bad feedback. Im not a fan of the feedback system, but it is what it is. I was going to suggest that you pm him to see if you can work something out, but I have a feeling that he will just leave you another negative feedback, so you are in a tough position.
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August 24, 2014, 01:00:27 AM
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Its probably a sign to stop pm'ing him. I think thats whats annoying him, you keep asking him to remove bad feedback. Im not a fan of the feedback system, but it is what it is. I was going to suggest that you pm him to see if you can work something out, but I have a feeling that he will just leave you another negative feedback, so you are in a tough position.

I wouldn't mind if he just asked, but he kept on asking over and over even though I already answered. Then he started making threats. So I mentioned that in a feedback too.

I figure that's the kind of thing people would want to know about him. Basically he's a scammer and a nuisance, and I recommend not getting involved.

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August 24, 2014, 01:04:24 AM
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In most of my dealings with dooglus he has been nothing but fair.

You must have done some really dumb shit to piss him off.
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August 29, 2014, 07:22:20 PM
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I'm not selling this account...
After further thought, I'll just deal with it.
Maybe after successful trades, dooglus and tomatocage will decide to remove their trust.

I think you still don't get it.

I don't remove negative trust.

I add negative trust when I see people running scams or otherwise acting in a less than desirable way, and add positive trust when I have good dealings with people.

If I ever had a good trade with you I would add positive trust, but that's not going to happen because I don't trust you.

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Professor James Moriarty
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August 29, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
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 Well douglus with all due respect to you and I do respect you but I don't think removing trust is that big of an issue , I mean if he fixes the issue that trust was put , it can might as well be removed if that thing is fixed.

 For example I have a loan that I am failing to pay right now , I have talked with the person and we are trying to fix the issue , if I can repay his loan than he will remove the negative trust , he is not going to keep the negative trust and put a positive trust to balance it stating 'nevermind the last negative trust he just paid' , that would be just silly.

 Don't get me wrong doog you are a wonderful person and all , I just disagree with you on this one. Things might not be undone but things can get fixed.
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