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August 13, 2014, 03:12:43 AM
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PVP does not seem to be fair.

Let's say, one user challenges another user who "happens" to be web site, primedice.com.
Since web site knows challenger's seed, he definitely knows the next roll number.
So web site can cheat on users, manipulate games and win any games he wants, especially those big bets.

Explain to me if I am wrong.


There is no profit made by PD on PVP games, so why is PD is so stupid to make it so call "not fair" ?     Grin


By cheating on PVP game, PD does not make profit by house edge.
They can direct win your bitcoins. That's called "NOT FAIR". So that's why house edge is ZERO.
I hope I can get an answer here.
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August 13, 2014, 09:19:13 AM
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I think nobody is blind here, we can read normal font just fine.

As for pvp, if u implaying that they will scam players with it, by betting against them and win all the time, that is so funny. Pd was around for ages , Stunna and pd never scammed nobody. If they wanted to profit on pvp they could done it in so many different ways, one that involves dev sitting on pvp all day beating other people is just not one of them . Cheesy .
And that wouldn't work for so many reasons.

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August 13, 2014, 09:25:18 AM
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PVP does not seem to be fair.

Let's say, one user challenges another user who "happens" to be web site, primedice.com.
Since web site knows challenger's seed, he definitely knows the next roll number.
So web site can cheat on users, manipulate games and win any games he wants, especially those big bets.

Explain to me if I am wrong.


There is no profit made by PD on PVP games, so why is PD is so stupid to make it so call "not fair" ?     Grin


By cheating on PVP game, PD does not make profit by house edge.
They can direct win your bitcoins. That's called "NOT FAIR". So that's why house edge is ZERO.
I hope I can get an answer here.


how PD win make the profit when I PVP with someone i know which has NO relation to PD?
actually i also dont know why i was replying to this retarded question.. make me a retard as well ...
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August 13, 2014, 09:33:54 AM
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Can u pls edit msg and un quote him. That retarded font and color makes it look rly stupid. I guess he is newbie and doesnt have idea how u should write posts on forum.

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August 13, 2014, 09:44:31 AM
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PVP does not seem to be fair.

Let's say, one user challenges another user who "happens" to be web site, primedice.com.
Since web site knows challenger's seed, he definitely knows the next roll number.
So web site can cheat on users, manipulate games and win any games he wants, especially those big bets.

Explain to me if I am wrong.


There is no profit made by PD on PVP games, so why is PD is so stupid to make it so call "not fair" ?     Grin


By cheating on PVP game, PD does not make profit by house edge.
They can direct win your bitcoins. That's called "NOT FAIR". So that's why house edge is ZERO.
I hope I can get an answer here.


We're 100% aware of this currently.

PvP is currently in BETA stage. We're seeing the response we get.

There's soon to be a "Non instant" mode whereby your duel goes to "Pending". It will remain in this state until the next block comes in. When this block comes in the rolls are created using each users seeds & the block hash. Both players seeds will be revealed before this happens.

It will either be that method, or using another 3rd party output to add another level of randomness to the rolls, any ideas?


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August 13, 2014, 10:44:17 AM
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the idea of waiting for next block looks abit turn off as the wait for block might be quite long. Most of us at the moment is just having some quick fun, waiting will spoilt the fun Smiley
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the idea of waiting for next block looks abit turn off as the wait for block might be quite long. Most of us at the moment is just having some quick fun, waiting will spoilt the fun Smiley


This will be optional. When you challenge someone you choose between instant & non instant Smiley

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August 13, 2014, 11:23:12 AM
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the idea of waiting for next block looks abit turn off as the wait for block might be quite long. Most of us at the moment is just having some quick fun, waiting will spoilt the fun Smiley


This will be optional. When you challenge someone you choose between instant & non instant Smiley
that will be nice if it is optional.. more choices for the gamblers.. LOL
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August 13, 2014, 11:38:38 AM
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the idea of waiting for next block looks abit turn off as the wait for block might be quite long. Most of us at the moment is just having some quick fun, waiting will spoilt the fun Smiley


This will be optional. When you challenge someone you choose between instant & non instant Smiley
that will be nice if it is optional.. more choices for the gamblers.. LOL

Yeah so if u know that player u are playing against, u just do instant duel, if u want more security u do 100% failproof option. Smiley . I like that idea.

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August 13, 2014, 11:45:30 AM
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the idea of waiting for next block looks abit turn off as the wait for block might be quite long. Most of us at the moment is just having some quick fun, waiting will spoilt the fun Smiley


This will be optional. When you challenge someone you choose between instant & non instant Smiley
that will be nice if it is optional.. more choices for the gamblers.. LOL

Yeah so if u know that player u are playing against, u just do instant duel, if u want more security u do 100% failproof option. Smiley . I like that idea.

It seems very safe, two questions : PD doesn't earn anything from PVP? Any way to see the biggest PVP matches?

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August 13, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
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the idea of waiting for next block looks abit turn off as the wait for block might be quite long. Most of us at the moment is just having some quick fun, waiting will spoilt the fun Smiley


This will be optional. When you challenge someone you choose between instant & non instant Smiley
that will be nice if it is optional.. more choices for the gamblers.. LOL

Yeah so if u know that player u are playing against, u just do instant duel, if u want more security u do 100% failproof option. Smiley . I like that idea.

It seems very safe, two questions : PD doesn't earn anything from PVP? Any way to see the biggest PVP matches?

Yeah there is no house edge on pvp. And all pvp matches over .001 btc are shown on pvp chat, by bot pvp highrollers.

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August 13, 2014, 12:12:57 PM
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How do I challenge people? Just ask around in the chat if anyone wants to bet?
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August 13, 2014, 12:19:48 PM
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How do I challenge people? Just ask around in the chat if anyone wants to bet?

Yeah u can do that but to actually chalange somebody u need to click on theirs username in pvp chatroom, and then on challange.

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August 13, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
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How do I challenge people? Just ask around in the chat if anyone wants to bet?

Yeah u can do that but to actually chalange somebody u need to click on theirs username in pvp chatroom, and then on challange.

What if they don't want to? Best to ask first surely?  Cheesy Is there a way to stop people from challenging you? People could spam you with requests.
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August 13, 2014, 12:47:02 PM
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How do I challenge people? Just ask around in the chat if anyone wants to bet?

Yeah u can do that but to actually chalange somebody u need to click on theirs username in pvp chatroom, and then on challange.

What if they don't want to? Best to ask first surely?  Cheesy Is there a way to stop people from challenging you? People could spam you with requests.

U will recive notification on chat when semebody challanges u. U can click on it to acept or just ignore it. And if somebody spams u with challanges u can just ignore them with /ignore command and u wont get any notifications from them.

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August 13, 2014, 03:06:07 PM
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PVP does not seem to be fair.

Let's say, one user challenges another user who "happens" to be web site, primedice.com.
Since web site knows challenger's seed, he definitely knows the next roll number.
So web site can cheat on users, manipulate games and win any games he wants, especially those big bets.

Explain to me if I am wrong.


There is no profit made by PD on PVP games, so why is PD is so stupid to make it so call "not fair" ?     Grin


By cheating on PVP game, PD does not make profit by house edge.
They can direct win your bitcoins. That's called "NOT FAIR". So that's why house edge is ZERO.
I hope I can get an answer here.


how PD win make the profit when I PVP with someone i know which has NO relation to PD?
actually i also dont know why i was replying to this retarded question.. make me a retard as well ...

You only play PVP only with someone you know? I don't think it's the case that PD wants.
I don't think it's me who make you retard. Please go back home and ask your mother about what happen that night.
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August 13, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
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I think nobody is blind here, we can read normal font just fine.

As for pvp, if u implaying that they will scam players with it, by betting against them and win all the time, that is so funny. Pd was around for ages , Stunna and pd never scammed nobody. If they wanted to profit on pvp they could done it in so many different ways, one that involves dev sitting on pvp all day beating other people is just not one of them . Cheesy .
And that wouldn't work for so many reasons.



If you have nothing to hide, why are you so upset with the font and color. You should feel lucky I posted here and not in your main thread.
And I am not implying anything. I just saw the web site says it's 100% provable fair. And I just found something that's unfair.
If PD says it's 99% fair. I am OK with that and there won't be this post.

I believe dev is smart enough to write a program to play users. If your dev doesn't know, let me show him. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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August 13, 2014, 03:15:16 PM
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"You only play PVP only with someone you know? I don't think it's the case that PD wants. "
Pd doesn't rly want u to play pvp , since there is nothing for house in that Cheesy .
Its just one fun feature ,and u can use it just for fun to play with friends, or try to profit with it playing 50/50 with no house edge.
Its up to u .


As for the font, its not about hiding anything LOL . Everybody can read normal font just fine Cheesy .
Its just if everybody would use fonts and colors like that this forum would be such a mess and unreadable. 

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August 19, 2014, 05:59:21 PM
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I've been lurking around the pvp section the past few days, and I haven't seen a bet over .1. I'm wondering if any of you guys have seen any and it's just me being on at the wrong time?

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Why does PD3 even offer pvp if there's no house edge?  Just wondering what's in it for them, as they say.
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