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March 22, 2012, 09:14:14 AM
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The Pirate Bay to Fly 'Server Drones' to Avoid Law Enforcement
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/03/19/the-pirate-bay-to-fly-server-drones-to-avoid-law-enforcement

What do you guys think about a Bitcoin or bitcoin-like system that would use a series of drones as info couriers and allow the owners to be payed based on bandwidth covered? This would enable people to be free of censorship (until they start shooting them out of the sky or making them illegal), as well as form a natural self healing infrastructure that is completely portable. New consumer drones are UNDER $200. A civilian public grid is within sight.

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March 22, 2012, 09:20:53 AM
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April Fools' yet?
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March 22, 2012, 09:26:54 AM
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Yeah, there is a huge opportunity for last-mile relay drones because you can cover a huge area from 1000 feet in the air.  It isn't hype.  The tech is getting to the point that you can stay in a fixed spot indefinitely with some solar panels and the right aerodynamics.

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March 22, 2012, 09:37:18 AM
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We might be able to buy Sealand for BTC?
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March 22, 2012, 06:19:42 PM
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We might be able to buy Sealand for BTC?
That sealand dude is crazy, but he was planning on setting up a dataheaven once but it fell through

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March 23, 2012, 11:36:34 PM
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Very interesting, i wonder what will happen
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April 02, 2012, 08:03:29 AM
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Mesh Boxes, and Freenet soon too i hope.

and maybe a hydroponic garden... for tomatos Wink </sarcasm>

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April 02, 2012, 08:58:36 AM
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We might be able to buy Sealand for BTC?
That sealand dude is crazy, but he was planning on setting up a dataheaven once but it fell through

It wasn't him who wanted to setup the DC. And it did got setup a long long time ago...

http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/28/2909303/sealand-havenco-doomed-data-haven-history


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April 09, 2012, 02:09:32 AM
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Maybe I missed something but why do we need drones to keep Bitcoin alive? Unlike PirateBay's activities it's perfectly legal and will probably remain so up to the point where it turns into fiat.

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April 09, 2012, 06:01:25 AM
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Maybe I missed something but why do we need drones to keep Bitcoin alive? Unlike PirateBay's activities it's perfectly legal and will probably remain so up to the point where it turns into fiat.

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You missed something. I never claimed we needed drones to keep Bitcoin alive, I was simply suggesting that a flying drone internet grid system could become functional by paying people to upkeep drones in Bitcoin based on bandwidth transferred.

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April 09, 2012, 08:12:48 AM
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But why do we need drones for internet?  Huh

Like sure, remote locations maybe, but I bet a Wifi point-to-point would be just as cost effective.

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April 09, 2012, 02:21:58 PM
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You aren't witnessing this growing trend of censorship and control of the internet by totalitarian forces all over the globe? What about the ridiculous unobtainable cost of use for the majority of people on earth?

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April 09, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
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You aren't witnessing this growing trend of censorship and control of the internet by totalitarian forces all over the globe?

This sort of opinion if it catches hold will only result in the media labelling participants in this forum as crackpots. Censorship and control of the internet, I don't think so, that's bordering on impossible. Now sure, if you want to say specific countries are applying censorship & control that'd be valid but nothing will stop new namespaces coming about with or without ICANN approval and support (that's why AltDNS systems exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root) and the internet community has a history of routing around non-open players.

Besides, flying some planes above an area and meshing them together isn't going to fight the 'censorship' you speak of. All those drones eventually have to hit the ground to access the rest of the internet system and consequently will be bound by the same limitations as normal terrestrial connectivity. The only thing such a setup would provide is an open net (or as open as the operators of the drone would allow) between peers.

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For the internet? Internet infrastructure costs money, it doesn't just exist for perpetuity with no ongoing costs. I'm not sure which country you're in but in Australia internet costs a fortune by global comparisons. That hasn't stopped a large and active internet community & service structure popping up around it. Likewise in improverished nations within the African continent people gain internet access for competitive market rates (ie. barely anything).

Now, can we take a break from the paranoid trollific hyperbole and move on?

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April 09, 2012, 11:17:15 PM
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We might be able to buy Sealand for BTC?
That sealand dude is crazy, but he was planning on setting up a dataheaven once but it fell through

They did set one up (HavenCo) then it disappeared because the so-called Royal family of Sealand are more interested in working with countries to get recognized and being king of turd island than going around other countries laws.
http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2004/sealab_dead.html

Lol they wanted him to send all accounting to their daughter in the UK who was running a Windows 95 desktop. He refused for obvious security reasons so they simply stole HavenCo by confiscating everything. I wonder if it was him that set the Sealand fire Smiley

Last I heard Sealand is setting up a giant internet casino they apparently sold custodianship to somebody
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April 11, 2012, 12:11:22 AM
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You aren't witnessing this growing trend of censorship and control of the internet by totalitarian forces all over the globe?

This sort of opinion if it catches hold will only result in the media labelling participants in this forum as crackpots. Censorship and control of the internet, I don't think so, that's bordering on impossible. Now sure, if you want to say specific countries are applying censorship & control that'd be valid but nothing will stop new namespaces coming about with or without ICANN approval and support (that's why AltDNS systems exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root) and the internet community has a history of routing around non-open players.

Besides, flying some planes above an area and meshing them together isn't going to fight the 'censorship' you speak of. All those drones eventually have to hit the ground to access the rest of the internet system and consequently will be bound by the same limitations as normal terrestrial connectivity. The only thing such a setup would provide is an open net (or as open as the operators of the drone would allow) between peers.

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What about the ridiculous unobtainable cost of use for the majority of people on earth?

For the internet? Internet infrastructure costs money, it doesn't just exist for perpetuity with no ongoing costs. I'm not sure which country you're in but in Australia internet costs a fortune by global comparisons. That hasn't stopped a large and active internet community & service structure popping up around it. Likewise in improverished nations within the African continent people gain internet access for competitive market rates (ie. barely anything).

Now, can we take a break from the paranoid trollific hyperbole and move on?

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Internet regulation has been increasing in pretty much every nation on the globe for many years now. This is not a conspiracy theory, it is reality. Also I never claimed that they are or could be successful, only that governments all over the globe are putting more and more resources into regulation, including new legislation.

The difference between a drone grid and a terrestrial system is that they can move to heal gaps in the network. Not only that if a target destination is distant a single drone can deliver static packets of information much more efficiently. Regulations would be up to localities or individual users, and it would limit dependance on the regular commercial grid while generating income locally. Functional aerial drone WiFi grid systems are already reality and in use. Additionally with the dropping price of solar technology combined with recent developments in "perch and watch" drone technology, it is possible for the network to be solar powered.

Ad hominem attacks are usually a hallmark of the ignorant. By the way, could you possibly be any more pedantic? This was meant to be a simple discussion about citizen run WiFi grids and you turned it into a rant about conspiracies and Australian internet prices.

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April 12, 2012, 05:28:40 AM
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It wasn't him who wanted to setup the DC. And it did got setup a long long time ago...

http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/28/2909303/sealand-havenco-doomed-data-haven-history

thanks for posting the info on this...very interesting geek story on it I found all wrote up here: http://illinoislawreview.org/wp-content/ilr-content/articles/2012/2/Grimmelmann.pdf

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April 12, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
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"It's a bird!"
"It's a plane!"
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April 12, 2012, 10:25:11 PM
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This would be so cool!

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April 14, 2012, 02:28:05 PM
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Might be a good idea for the bitcoin delivery network...you could be a courier and deliver packages to clients without having to meet physically , but be in the same general location Smiley

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