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August 16, 2014, 03:40:13 PM |
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Well, that list is all ip end with 13 from Amazon up servers.
If your IP is not there i dont know where is.
But at last we are searching the IP for the info you give us:
·IP end with 13
·IP its on Amazone
And with that info we start searching. and now when i show you all servers list you say your server its not there, lol.
that list has 13,000 ip's, i have a total of 90,000 ips, but 77,000 ip's has the server down.
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vit1988
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August 16, 2014, 03:41:53 PM |
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Thats by law nothing worth without an authorized german notary.
The circumstances does not allow it to take part here.
germans... never use a crosswalk with a red light cause it's against the law even when there is nobody to see them  |
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neha (OP)
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August 16, 2014, 03:47:23 PM |
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Well, that list is all ip end with 13 from Amazon up servers.
If your IP is not there i dont know where is.
But at last we are searching the IP for the info you give us:
·IP end with 13
·IP its on Amazone
And with that info we start searching. and now when i show you all servers list you say your server its not there, lol.
that list has 13,000 ip's, i have a total of 90,000 ips, but 77,000 ip's has the server down.
Just because a Server doesnt Ping you assume the server is down??? I am seriously advising to give up because it is actually not possible. Easiest way would be to hack........hack@nuovocard.com. Also, remember you are only do this for 3k and not 100k. For 3k, its just not worth it to find the IP and there will never be more than 3k on the server and like I said, as soon as someone logs in, the keys will be wiped. |
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August 16, 2014, 04:09:33 PM |
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Well, that list is all ip end with 13 from Amazon up servers.
If your IP is not there i dont know where is.
But at last we are searching the IP for the info you give us:
·IP end with 13
·IP its on Amazone
And with that info we start searching. and now when i show you all servers list you say your server its not there, lol.
that list has 13,000 ip's, i have a total of 90,000 ips, but 77,000 ip's has the server down.
Just because a Server doesnt Ping you assume the server is down??? I am seriously advising to give up because it is actually not possible. Easiest way would be to hack........hack@nuovocard.com. Also, remember you are only do this for 3k and not 100k. For 3k, its just not worth it to find the IP and there will never be more than 3k on the server and like I said, as soon as someone logs in, the keys will be wiped. Just to be sure... Its the ip on next list? http://m.uploadedit.com/b038/1408205271298.txt |
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neha (OP)
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August 16, 2014, 04:37:28 PM |
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YES. You have time until tomorrow. That list is too big. Ill shorten it for all of you. Just remember, without all these hints, I highly doubt you would even get down to these 1999 IP's. Dont go and do pen test on all the IP's for all the ports as you will probably get in trouble and I can guarantee you that pen test will also not reveal the IP. Atleast OpenVas doesnt because I just performed that today again to confirm. All the best. 54.191.168.213
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seoincorporation
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August 16, 2014, 05:22:37 PM |
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Ports 9050, 46330, 47342, 38319, are closed on that IP list  |
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neha (OP)
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August 16, 2014, 05:40:46 PM |
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Ports 9050, 46330, 47342, 38319, are closed on that IP list Latest Netstat:- Active Internet connections (w/o servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 localhost:9050 localhost:59007 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:59007 localhost:9050 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:9050 localhost:58998 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:18332 localhost:54527 TIME_WAIT tcp 0 0 localhost:58998 localhost:9050 ESTABLISHED |
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Stery
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August 16, 2014, 08:50:15 PM |
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Really nice contest someone paying to hack their application server.
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Nico205
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August 16, 2014, 09:01:10 PM |
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Can you give us the last netstat please =?
Regards
Nico
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neha (OP)
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August 16, 2014, 09:03:57 PM |
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Yes ofcourse. I am giving you permission to hack this email address, ofcourse you can spam it as much as you like. Latest netstat:- Active Internet connections (w/o servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 localhost:58623 localhost:9050 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:9050 localhost:58600 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:9050 localhost:58605 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:9050 localhost:58623 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:58600 localhost:9050 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 localhost:58605 localhost:9050 ESTABLISHED |
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seoincorporation
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August 16, 2014, 11:09:00 PM |
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something its wired, if that ports are open, why i dont see it when i scan the 2000 ip's list? Any way, i found in your page, in the contact page you dont have a Captcha. http://www.nuovocard.com/contact-page/Its important implement a captcha there, because with the next iMacros code i cand send you an automate contact message: TAB T=1
URL GOTO=http://www.nuovocard.com/contact-page/
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=ACTION:/contact-page/#wpcf7-f2566-o1 ATTR=TYPE:text&&ARIA-INVALID:false&&ARIA-REQUIRED:true&&CLASS:wpcf7-form-control<SP>wpcf7-text<SP>wpcf7-validates-as-required&&SIZE:40&&VALUE:&&NAME:your-name CONTENT=anon
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:EMAIL FORM=ACTION:/contact-page/#wpcf7-f2566-o1 ATTR=TYPE:email&&ARIA-INVALID:false&&ARIA-REQUIRED:true&&CLASS:wpcf7-form-control<SP>wpcf7-text<SP>wpcf7-email<SP>wpcf7-validates-as-required<SP>wpcf7-validates-as-email&&SIZE:40&&VALUE:&&NAME:your-email CONTENT=anon@anon.com
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=ACTION:/contact-page/#wpcf7-f2566-o1 ATTR=TYPE:text&&ARIA-INVALID:false&&CLASS:wpcf7-form-control<SP>wpcf7-text&&SIZE:40&&VALUE:&&NAME:your-subject CONTENT=test
TAG POS=1 TYPE=TEXTAREA FORM=ACTION:/contact-page/#wpcf7-f2566-o1 ATTR=ARIA-INVALID:false&&CLASS:wpcf7-form-control<SP>wpcf7-textarea&&ROWS:10&&COLS:40&&NAME:your-message CONTENT=test
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:SUBMIT FORM=ACTION:/contact-page/#wpcf7-f2566-o1 ATTR=TYPE:submit&&CLASS:wpcf7-form-control<SP>wpcf7-submit&&VALUE:Send
If i use a "while" in that code i can send you more than 1000 msg in les than 5 min. I give up with the IP, if i cant recognize the server from the port, i dont know what im seaching. By the way, congrat, you hide very well that IP. |
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August 17, 2014, 02:29:43 AM |
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Why do you only offer a email which interacts with the API? If your mobile app is released and is communicating with your appserver, getting the IP is easy..
If your server IP is only interacting with the API and the bitcoin network, its not like people will find your server, without guessing.
Also, why would you use email? If its not going to be used anyway in the future...
So confusing, just like the thread and the site content.
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neha (OP)
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August 17, 2014, 06:08:32 AM |
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something its wired, if that ports are open, why i dont see it when i scan the 2000 ip's list?
If i use a "while" in that code i can send you more than 1000 msg in les than 5 min.
I give up with the IP, if i cant recognize the server from the port, i dont know what im seaching.
By the way, congrat, you hide very well that IP.
Yeah the initial pentesting for the site revealed that but we have not strengthened the security of the webserver yet. Will do it once we get down to the Mobile API's. Thanks for pointing it out though. Why do you only offer a email which interacts with the API? If your mobile app is released and is communicating with your appserver, getting the IP is easy..
If your server IP is only interacting with the API and the bitcoin network, its not like people will find your server, without guessing.
Also, why would you use email? If its not going to be used anyway in the future...
So confusing, just like the thread and the site content.
hardcode - no-one can access the app server unless it is through email or unless the app server goes and looks for the data itself. I really dont want to give more info about the architecture but to sum it up, the webserver i.e. the api server will never be able to manipulate data in the actual database because it wont have and write/update or any sort of permission to change data. |
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neha (OP)
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August 17, 2014, 06:36:22 AM |
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PHASE 2 STARTS. TO GET THE IP, PM ME.
ONE REQUEST : DO NOT RUN MORE THAN A COUPLE OF THREADS/CONNECTIONS TO THE SERVER AND TO CHECK WHETHER THE SERVER IS UP OR NOT, SEND AN EMAIL.
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NLNico
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August 17, 2014, 06:42:09 AM |
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To be honest I didn't completely read what your company is about. But if I understand it correctly you can pay at a store with a card through some mobile application. There must be communication in some way there? How can it not write something to any server? How will it save transactions then?
So basically I agree with 'hardcode' that I would like to know more about the API or whatever. And I cannot imagine it's a "read only" API, but even if it is, shouldn't we focus on trying to hack that (too)?
Trying to hack the server is great, but IMO a lot of times the vulnerabilities are in the actual API or site interaction.
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neha (OP)
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August 17, 2014, 07:20:20 AM |
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To be honest I didn't completely read what your company is about. But if I understand it correctly you can pay at a store with a card through some mobile application. There must be communication in some way there? How can it not write something to any server? How will it save transactions then?
So basically I agree with 'hardcode' that I would like to know more about the API or whatever. And I cannot imagine it's a "read only" API, but even if it is, shouldn't we focus on trying to hack that (too)?
Trying to hack the server is great, but IMO a lot of times the vulnerabilities are in the actual API or site interaction.
You will get that opportunity in very near future also. But like I said, the app server goes and fetches data from the database which the api server has entered. Then processes the transaction, and puts it in a different database which the api server queries to get the transaction approval or denial. No interaction between the API Server and the APP Server at all. There is a RDS SERVER in the MIDDLE. YOU REALLY CANT GET TO THE ACTUAL DATABASE OR CHANGE A TRANSACTION. ALSO, Everytime you swipe, the OTP with the Amount goes in your EMAIL, so MITM attack is also difficult if not impossible. ANY TAKERS FOR THE IP??? |
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August 18, 2014, 10:36:40 PM |
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ANY TAKERS FOR THE IP???
No. Chance to find a vulnerability is too low to waste time on that. |
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neha (OP)
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August 19, 2014, 01:20:22 AM |
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ANY TAKERS FOR THE IP???
No. Chance to find a vulnerability is too low to waste time on that. She has made an iron door for her bamboo cottage and asking everyone not to brute force the bamboo wall, but to break in the iron door. Once people fail to do that, she'll boast it everywhere that how secured her system is. I feel pity for her customers, as they're gonna lose everything so fast !!! You talk too much. If you have any sort of skills, prove it. Help me not boast it. Otherwise....let it be. |
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neha (OP)
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August 19, 2014, 01:05:57 PM |
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How their system is designed makes it difficult to attack but for sure its not impossible.
The first bounty:
Has shown how difficulty it is to find the application server. I have an experiment running in form of a tor entry node where I get an email once someone would use my tor entry node to connect to the global tor network and who would got an ip starting 5 (could even be 54 accordingly to the list) and would ending up with 13.
So far this did not happened but this also can be because of the huge amount of servers and per default a new circuit is just created every 10 minutes which leads to ~ 6 connections/hour or 144/day. For sure if they have made a special setup things can be different here.
This shows how difficulty it is to find the application server also knowing some parts of the ip. In case of not knowing this information it becomes really worse. You then would need some thousand tor nodes (entry, middle, exit) and probably a couple of weeks/months to find them.
The 2nd bounty:
Here you need for example some kind of exploit either an already existing one or you would inject one by a successfully malicious pull request to bitcoin/armoryd or you need to directly work for amazon or the state with the right access levels for sure. But these are just theoretical principles.
In general I can congratulate you.
A successfull hack in the future would probably be based on human errors like someone would hack you personally or some other guys of your company and then install some kind of trojan. Thats probably much more easier than to get directly into the server. Therefore you should have the same cold/hot wallet policy that also exchanges have got.
Thanks Gitju for your remarks. We already have designed the service around Armory Cold Wallet and all the deposits will come to an armory address(cold) and we will transfer it to hot wallet as per demand. |
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