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Trezor - 26 (86.7%)
Blockchain.info + 2FA - 4 (13.3%)
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August 14, 2014, 01:14:01 AM
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If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too?

Technically, you don't have to write the seed down if you don't want and then it wouldn't be recoverable. But, people in general do want this.

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August 14, 2014, 08:17:36 AM
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TREZOR, any day. More secure.


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August 14, 2014, 03:51:36 PM
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I think Blockchain it's a good wallet , because im never use Bitcoin Trezor and 2FA  Grin

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August 14, 2014, 04:22:41 PM
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I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.   

Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use.   The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info.

Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin.   Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer.

I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor).


IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. 
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August 14, 2014, 07:04:20 PM
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I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.   

Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use.   The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info.

Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin.   Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer.

I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor).


IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. 

Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it!

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August 14, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
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I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.   

Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use.   The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info.

Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin.   Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer.

I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor).


IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. 

Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it!

I've never actually had to use a backup seed before, is it really as easy as typing in the words, and then you are off and running?
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August 14, 2014, 07:39:19 PM
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I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.   

Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use.   The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info.

Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin.   Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer.

I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor).


IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. 

Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it!

I've never actually had to use a backup seed before, is it really as easy as typing in the words, and then you are off and running?

Yes it is. And after importing this one seed you have access to ALL privatekeys you could ever accessed with that trezor account.

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August 14, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
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I preffer the option with lowest possibility to loose my Bitcoins. Trezor wins, but Trezor does not offer additional security for those not understanding how Trezor exactly works, so non tech people are likely to loose Bitcoins when using Trezor at compromised computer/server and revealing seed or not checking the transaction details on Trezor when signing or accepting not signed firmware

If you reveal your seed, you will basically lose your BTC with any type of wallet.  I haven't received my Trezor yet (I thought it was arriving today), but I thought one of the whole points of it was to be able to use it securely even if you have a compromised computer...

Yes, trezor is secure on a compromised computer, but you still could be tricked, like asking to sign different transaction (so always check transaction details on trezor display). There are more ways how to trick you when using trezor at compromised computer, so the user is the weak point with trezor
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August 14, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
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I love the look of Trezor and think I'll be getting it but its a little expensive for me at the moment.
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August 14, 2014, 10:06:26 PM
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If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too?

Technically, you don't have to write the seed down if you don't want and then it wouldn't be recoverable. But, people in general do want this.

I definitely would not recommend not saving the recovery seed.   Since these are so new, I'm sure a hardware failure isn't out of the question
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August 14, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
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I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.   

Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use.   The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info.

Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin.   Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer.

I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor).


IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. 

Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it!

I've never actually had to use a backup seed before, is it really as easy as typing in the words, and then you are off and running?

Yes it is. And after importing this one seed you have access to ALL privatekeys you could ever accessed with that trezor account.

Thanks, are you plugging in your trezor every time you check your balance, or are you just entering the receiving address? 

I have not really used a block explorer before...I have just sat on my coins (and spent some here and there), how come when I enter the receiving address into blockchain.info, it doesn't show any transactions for the address?
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August 14, 2014, 11:30:37 PM
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I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.   

Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use.   The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info.

Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin.   Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer.

I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor).


IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. 

Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it!
Blockchain.info does use something similar to a seed, it uses a group of words that is based on your password that will allow you to have access to your identifier and password. The problem with having a seed is that it is a weak link to possibly access your money. People generally will not protect their seed in the same ways they would protect their password so there is a greater chance that someone would be able to steal bitcoin via someone's seed.

 
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August 15, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
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I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.   

Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use.   The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info.

Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin.   Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer.

I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor).


IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. 

Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it!
Blockchain.info does use something similar to a seed, it uses a group of words that is based on your password that will allow you to have access to your identifier and password. The problem with having a seed is that it is a weak link to possibly access your money. People generally will not protect their seed in the same ways they would protect their password so there is a greater chance that someone would be able to steal bitcoin via someone's seed.
I think this is why blockchian.info = 2Fa is much more secure then using a seed. If someone were to mess up their security with their seed then they would likely have their coins stolen, however if someone messed up their security with their password and identifier then they would still have a very strong layer of protection to keep their coin safe.
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