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March 25, 2012, 04:41:24 AM
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next-test is a branch of the mainline bitcoind & Bitcoin-Qt with as many pull requests merged as possible, to aid in testing them. This branch can be used to test many pull requests in your daily Bitcoin use. The goal is to help pull requests get the testing they need to be merged into the main tree, so once you test a change, please comment in the relevant pull request (ideally with details).

Please note these might possibly corrupt your wallet. No warranty of any kind of provided. BACKUP YOUR WALLET

Also note this is the first next-test that excludes my Coinbaser enhancement. Click here for details.
It is also the first next-test to include coderrr's coin control features.


Today's next-test includes the following pull requests (green are merged now; red are disputed):

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March 25, 2012, 10:19:16 AM
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While it is great that Luke has put the time into preparing these next-test builds Cheesy. I just wanted to explain why the maroon pull patches are contested.



The problem is that this may (quite unlikely) correct to an unspendable address.

 

Support URI with Satoshi or Hex or (Tonal, that is just hex with funny characters).  Problem.  People want URI's to be easily human readable.



Danger of buffer overflow, (if there is a bug in the to hex code).  Virtually no real-life performance gain.



Tonal support, tonal is base 16 numbers with strange characters for the numbers higher than 9.
Problem: nobody cares about tonal other than Luke.

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March 25, 2012, 12:48:02 PM
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Danger of buffer overflow, (if there is a bug in the to hex code).  Virtually no real-life performance gain.
6% performance gain, to be specific.

Tonal support, tonal is base 16 numbers with strange characters for the numbers higher than 9.
Problem: nobody cares about tonal other than Luke.
Or from others' perspective, nobody cares about Bitcoin other than Luke. Wink

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April 30, 2012, 04:00:43 PM
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Any newer releases?
On my setup (Win7 64, main client v0.6, wallet upgraded) , bitcoin-next-test-20120324-win32 crashes all the time Sad I liked coin control features.

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April 30, 2012, 04:04:36 PM
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Any newer releases?
On my setup (Win7 64, main client v0.6, wallet upgraded) , bitcoin-next-test-20120324-win32 crashes all the time Sad I liked coin control features.
I'll probably spin another next-test pretty soon. Stay tuned Wink

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April 30, 2012, 04:05:37 PM
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Nice! Thaanks!! Cheesy

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May 01, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
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This next-test has been superceded.

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Tonal support, tonal is base 16 numbers with strange characters for the numbers higher than 9.
Problem: nobody cares about tonal other than Luke.

I find very interesting the Tonal discussion. Computers use it all the time. Music also. And when I'm slicing pizza.

And astronauts:



http://history.nasa.gov/computers/Ch4-7.html

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May 02, 2012, 03:48:49 AM
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Tonal support, tonal is base 16 numbers with strange characters for the numbers higher than 9.
Problem: nobody cares about tonal other than Luke.

I find very interesting the Tonal discussion. Computers use it all the time. Music also. And when I'm slicing pizza.

And astronauts:

http://history.nasa.gov/computers/p126.jpg

http://history.nasa.gov/computers/Ch4-7.html
But do you use the fonts that nobody can read? The alternate name to throw people off the fact that it is just hex?

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May 02, 2012, 04:08:22 AM
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The alternate name to throw people off the fact that it is just hex?
Except it's not.

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May 02, 2012, 04:23:41 AM
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Please, Luke, enlighten me.

Where did you see Tonal (or Hex) in Bitcoins?

I see that there is 21000000.00000000 Bitcoins, that's 16 numbers (is it a clue?)

But the units are decimals (0-9), so, where does it fits? Mathematically? (Something tells me that one or another type of measure will have non-round numbers).

I'd like to see examples of simple conversions so maybe I can grasp it.


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May 02, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
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Please, Luke, enlighten me.
Unlike the later invention of hexadecimal, which only provides digits for base 8*2 (and hijacks them from the Latin alphabet), Tonal also provides pronunciations (an, de, ti, go, su, by, ra, me, ni, ko, hu, vy, la, po, fy, ton), fractions (forbidden in hexadecimal), and units for measurement of length (the Earth's circumference is 1,0000 millmeters), time/circles/compass (each day is divided into 10 tims), capacity (1 gall = 1 cubic meter), weight (1 pon = 1 gall of water), power (1 effect = 1 pon lifted 1 meter in 1 timmill), money (cents, shillings, and dollars), postage stamps, the calendar (ANuary, DEbrian, TImander, GOstus, SUvenary, BYlian, RAtamber, MEsudius, NIctoary, KOlumbian, HUsamber, VYctorious, LAmboary, POlian, FYlander, TONborious), temperature/heat (10 temps = 100 celcius), music, and abacus/stchoty.

Where did you see Tonal (or Hex) in Bitcoins?
As no government has adopted Tonal for currency, there has been a void. The day I discovered Bitcoin, it seemed obvious it could fill this void.

I see that there is 21000000.00000000 Bitcoins, that's 16 numbers (is it a clue?)

But the units are decimals (0-9), so, where does it fits? Mathematically? (Something tells me that one or another type of measure will have non-round numbers).

I'd like to see examples of simple conversions so maybe I can grasp it.
There are technically 2,100,000,000,000,000 actual items in the Bitcoin protocol. For whatever reason, Satoshi chose to set the unit of "BTC" at 100,000,000 of these. TBC, on the other hand, is exactly 1,0000 (tonal, remember) items. Therefore, 1 TBC = 0.00065536 BTC and 1 BTC = 55.1 TBC (the wiki has a nice chart of units). Since the decimal and tonal units are fundamentally different, they can mostly function as independent currencies (for example, clients can detect whether a transaction is BTC or TBC based on its value) while still being directly exchanged between single-number-system users without confusion (since their client will only show the units they understand) and cooperating on mining efforts, adoption, etc.

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May 02, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
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The alternate name to throw people off the fact that it is just hex?
Except it's not.
Nice selective quoting/arguing, and dodging around the fact that it is a base 16 numbering system. Since it will never be used by the greater masses, there is no need to be worried about it. Just keep it the fuck out of my bitcoin client, thank you.

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