Deckbound: collectible card games based on bitcoin

[salsacz]

Deckbound mentioned: http://www.coinssource.com/a-growing-trend-games-and-digital-currencies/

[garethjenkins]

We just put up a intro/overview for Deckbound at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_-mxgUNiOM

G.

[prophetx]

how many blocks will there be and what is the projected maximum supply?

[prophetx]

also once i buy some of this can i transfer them to someone else?

[garethjenkins]

Hey Prophetx,

how many blocks will there be and what is the projected maximum supply?

Blocks will continue to be created in proportion to card demand, and cards will be issued in proportion to block size. As the price of cards from a specific block increases once a block reaches its target size, there is effectively a target card distribution for each block -- which itself varies based on player demand for cards. This is detailed at https://www.deckbound.com/genesis-block with some examples.

also once i buy some of this can i transfer them to someone else?

At the moment, you can do this via a private sale for blocks 1 and 2. But you would need to arrange sale and transfer of the controlling email address or private key used to make the direct purchase.

Having said that, we're working on the token issue to Genesis Block purchasers... which is ultimately used in card creation. This will likely be the default for Block 3 and beyond (i.e. tokens are issued at the time of sale) and depending on finalising some details, may also apply to Block 1 & 2 purchases.

G.

[prophetx]

Hey Prophetx,

how many blocks will there be and what is the projected maximum supply?

Blocks will continue to be created in proportion to card demand, and cards will be issued in proportion to block size. As the price of cards from a specific block increases once a block reaches its target size, there is effectively a target card distribution for each block -- which itself varies based on player demand for cards. This is detailed at https://www.deckbound.com/genesis-block with some examples.

also once i buy some of this can i transfer them to someone else?

At the moment, you can do this via a private sale for blocks 1 and 2. But you would need to arrange sale and transfer of the controlling email address or private key used to make the direct purchase.

Having said that, we're working on the token issue to Genesis Block purchasers... which is ultimately used in card creation. This will likely be the default for Block 3 and beyond (i.e. tokens are issued at the time of sale) and depending on finalising some details, may also apply to Block 1 & 2 purchases.

G.

to be honest this is a little too complicated to understand

also the risk versus reward is not so good from what i think i understood

[garethjenkins]

Hey -- just launched the first version of the Deckbound Explorer... so figured I'd include some details here for those following along.

The explorer is a visual browser that you can use to look at Deckbound cards -- a bit like blockchain.info or insight... but for Deckbound cards, and in 3D.

https://www.deckbound.com/img/ci-explorer-full.png

It's in a very early stage, but you can already use it to look at test cards and live transactions pulled from the Bitcoin network (Deckbound cards are all based on Bitcoin transactions, so we can simulate cards by looking at live transactions on the Bitcoin network).

There's a intro video explaining all this at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_5GhGhI-k

https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/bct-video-preview.png

If you just want to play around with it, point your WebGL-compatible browser at http://index.deckbound.com/explorer... it works well with any recent GPU and the recent versions of Chrome & Firefox. Should also be okay in Safari and IE as well.

To make all this work we did a bunch of work on procedural generation and determinism using Bitcoin transactions (and Deckbound card IDs)... you can read more about that at https://www.deckbound.com/card-inception.
 
This also marks the first public release of the Deckbound API -- you can get the raw information about Deckbound cards and build your own explorer should you want to. Find out more at http://index.deckbound.com/

[Gumbork]

how many blocks will their be for sale?

[garethjenkins]

how many blocks will their be for sale?

Hi Gumbork. Ultimately the number of blocks are dependent upon the number of cards bought by players. Given the size of Block 2, this could be -- and this is an estimate -- between 500k and 2m cards. Once those cards have been sold, it becomes more expensive for players to buy cards from that block and we will offer cards for sale from the next block at the regular price.

Having fixed blocks (instead of an endless supply from one infinite block) allows for an ongoing iteration of new card properties and abilities. A lot of CCGs do this -- Magic, as an example, issues 2-3 core "sets" per year. I expect that we'd be looking to adjust the size of blocks to the ongoing demand for cards. As the player base increases the blocks get larger to anticipate demand.

For the first few blocks we've intentionally kept the size small (2m cards isn't very many when you consider that average players may have 250 or more cards in their collection). Because of this, we're being careful to only release block sales as and when we're ready (especially as we've not launched any games yet). At launch of the block system we announced blocks 1 and 2. Block 1 is fully sold and block 2 is over 70% sold now, but as it currently stands we haven't sized Block 3. It's likely that there'll be a gap between blocks 2 and 3.

G.

[Voltarius]

This can kill some of my little free time. I should try it

[garethjenkins]

Hey. I just posted some information to the email newsletter and wanted to repeat here for anyone following just this thread...

You can get 30% more tokens in Block 1 & 2

We've been working on the details for the issue of Genesis Tokens to Genesis Block Holders.

https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/gbh-token-card.png

Genesis Tokens are used to create & incept Deckbound cards. Buying Genesis Blocks will result in you being issued a number of tokens proportional to the size of your purchase and the size of the block. The Deckbound system will automatically manage the use and sale of these tokens into card packs across the lifetime cost curve of a Genesis Block's cards. You will also be able to do that manually.
 
We've been working on getting the legal and technical specifics right for this token issue. I was at MIT a few weeks ago for the legal/technical workshops -- see http://crypto.sabir.cc/?page_id=147 -- on various crypto/legal issues, including the issue of product tokens. This was a fantastic event that has allowed us to accelerate what we're doing with Genesis Tokens.
 
We'll be simplifying some of the block size and card issue details, including specifically the target "block size". This is currently at 130% of the BTC size of the block. To clarify how this works, we're going to make the block size and the block target the same thing… but modify the mechanics of how card prices increase such that the demand curve for higher priced cards kicks in sooner.
 
Block 1 & 2 purchases get 30% extra tokens
 
As a thank you to early purchasers in Blocks 1 & 2, and to avoid any confusion, we're going to convert Block 1 & 2 ownership at 130%…. giving you 1.3x the tokens you paid for.
 
This also applies for any additional purchases in Blocks 1 & 2, until Block 2 has sold out. If you'd like to take advantage of this while there's still some of Block 2 left, you can credit your reserved funding address or use the links at https://www.deckbound.com/genesis-block-purchase
 
Genesis Block sales fund the ongoing development of Deckbound and your support is very much appreciated.

G.

[garethjenkins]

Hey -- we just posted some important news to the newsletter, I've copied the newsletter content & press release below... as well as the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes Click through to see them bigger at https://www.deckbound.com/heroes


Two bits of exciting news: we've secured an investment from Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC and we can show you the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes!

I met Aaron in Boston at the crypto legal workshop in January, where we worked together on defining and discussing applicable issues on a variety of related crypto/token/product areas. Aaron will be joining our board of directors, and Gusrae Kaplan will be representing EVA Plexus as US counsel. I've copied the full press release below.

Screenshots! These are from the Deckbound Heroes preview. They're not final art, but they're close enough to be representative of the art and UI style that'll be used in Heroes. We've a tentative launch date of April for the Alpha.

We're doing some limited demos of the Deckbound Heroes preview starting at GDC next week. If you're in SF for GDC let me know and we'll arrange a demo. Otherwise watch this space (and the Deckbound Heroes page) for upcoming video previews.

https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/deckbound-heroes-preview-river-550.jpg   https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/deckbound-heroes-preview-jungle-550.jpg

EVA Plexus Limited -- February 24th 2015:

We are pleased to announce that Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC has made an investment in EVA Plexus Limited. The investment will help further the development of the Deckbound technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform.

EVA Plexus is also delighted to welcome Aaron to its board of directors. In addition, Gusrae Kaplan has been appointed as our United States counsel to represent the business in this key market, and help the company navigate the U.S. regulatory and legal landscape.

EVA Plexus Limited is an innovative new startup based in the Isle of Man. It is building the Deckbound suite of technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform. The Deckbound systems allow for the creation of digital collectible trading cards that are directly owned by players. Deckbound also solves the problem of guaranteed unique and provable card distribution by leveraging the cryptographic properties of the blockchain. In addition, it uses these properties to provide for the procedural generation of card abilities, art and other attributes. Owners of Deckbound cards can play those cards in any supporting game, the first of which will be Deckbound Heroes, launching in 2015. The bitbind.io platform allows digital assets to be attached to the Bitcoin blockchain using a namespace-based hierarchical tagging mechanism.

Aaron L. Kaplan is an associate at Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC, a Wall Street based securities law firm. Aaron concentrates his practice in the areas of virtual currency regulation and capital formation.

EVA Plexus is working up toward the launch of first Deckbound game, Deckbound Heroes. More information about that and the purchase of the Genesis Blocks used for the creation of cards in Deckbound games can be found at https://www.deckbound.com.

In response to the news, Brian Donegan, Head of Operations for e-Business with the Isle of Man Government’s Department of Economic Development said:

"We are very pleased that Gareth from EVA Plexus has secured this investment from Kaplan and decided to relocate to the Isle of Man, a nation which is fast becoming a 'digital currency friendly zone'. We wish him every success with his plans and welcome EVA Plexus to our Island’s growing cluster of e-Business, which is the Isle of Man’s fastest growing sector and which represents around 20% of our economy.

EVA Plexus is one of a number of digital currency businesses that have established themselves in the Isle of Man and the technology they are building to support the Deckbound digital collectible trading card games is one of many such initiatives looking to exploit not only the power of bitcoin, but the decentralised nature of the blockchain itself."

[IamNotSure]

Excellent news ! I don't get why this isn't getting more attention. Online games with bitcoin integration might drive adoption big time !

Hey -- we just posted some important news to the newsletter, I've copied the newsletter content & press release below... as well as the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes Click through to see them bigger at https://www.deckbound.com/heroes


Two bits of exciting news: we've secured an investment from Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC and we can show you the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes!

I met Aaron in Boston at the crypto legal workshop in January, where we worked together on defining and discussing applicable issues on a variety of related crypto/token/product areas. Aaron will be joining our board of directors, and Gusrae Kaplan will be representing EVA Plexus as US counsel. I've copied the full press release below.

Screenshots! These are from the Deckbound Heroes preview. They're not final art, but they're close enough to be representative of the art and UI style that'll be used in Heroes. We've a tentative launch date of April for the Alpha.

We're doing some limited demos of the Deckbound Heroes preview starting at GDC next week. If you're in SF for GDC let me know and we'll arrange a demo. Otherwise watch this space (and the Deckbound Heroes page) for upcoming video previews.

   

EVA Plexus Limited -- February 24th 2015:

We are pleased to announce that Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC has made an investment in EVA Plexus Limited. The investment will help further the development of the Deckbound technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform.

EVA Plexus is also delighted to welcome Aaron to its board of directors. In addition, Gusrae Kaplan has been appointed as our United States counsel to represent the business in this key market, and help the company navigate the U.S. regulatory and legal landscape.

EVA Plexus Limited is an innovative new startup based in the Isle of Man. It is building the Deckbound suite of technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform. The Deckbound systems allow for the creation of digital collectible trading cards that are directly owned by players. Deckbound also solves the problem of guaranteed unique and provable card distribution by leveraging the cryptographic properties of the blockchain. In addition, it uses these properties to provide for the procedural generation of card abilities, art and other attributes. Owners of Deckbound cards can play those cards in any supporting game, the first of which will be Deckbound Heroes, launching in 2015. The bitbind.io platform allows digital assets to be attached to the Bitcoin blockchain using a namespace-based hierarchical tagging mechanism.

Aaron L. Kaplan is an associate at Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC, a Wall Street based securities law firm. Aaron concentrates his practice in the areas of virtual currency regulation and capital formation.

EVA Plexus is working up toward the launch of first Deckbound game, Deckbound Heroes. More information about that and the purchase of the Genesis Blocks used for the creation of cards in Deckbound games can be found at https://www.deckbound.com.

In response to the news, Brian Donegan, Head of Operations for e-Business with the Isle of Man Government’s Department of Economic Development said:

"We are very pleased that Gareth from EVA Plexus has secured this investment from Kaplan and decided to relocate to the Isle of Man, a nation which is fast becoming a 'digital currency friendly zone'. We wish him every success with his plans and welcome EVA Plexus to our Island’s growing cluster of e-Business, which is the Isle of Man’s fastest growing sector and which represents around 20% of our economy.

EVA Plexus is one of a number of digital currency businesses that have established themselves in the Isle of Man and the technology they are building to support the Deckbound digital collectible trading card games is one of many such initiatives looking to exploit not only the power of bitcoin, but the decentralised nature of the blockchain itself."

[Jybrael]

First time checking this out...though I don't must like Card games this game seems to be very interesting in its own right. I might as well try it out as soon as I can. And I hope this will also allow for more bitcoin adoption.

[worldinacoin]

Sorry for replying to such an old thread, just hoping to know what is the status of the games?

[garethjenkins]

Sorry for replying to such an old thread, just hoping to know what is the status of the games?

Hi -- Deckbound Heroes will be launching in invite-only alpha end of October (if you've bought cards via early access or redeemed an invite code you'll get access to this) and Deckbound Quest is being previewed at events in the coming months.

There'll be some more updates going out in the coming week... including more info on Deckbound Quest, but here's a preview of what we've been up to -- https://www.flickr.com/photos/deckbound -- taken from Deckbound Heroes' first major public outing at Gamescom a couple of weeks ago.

[SISAR]

This whole deal is puzzling me for many months now so I decided to finaly ask for some help. I don't find Deckbound website informative enough especially in end-user topics, there is a ton of info written but none of it really helps someone who just want to join for fun. For example, at https://www.deckbound.com/earlyaccess I can buy cards but upon clicking "buy now" button I've been redirected to Coinbase, what is not explained at all is if I'm supposed to send BTC from address I own or I can send BTC from anywhere, like exchanges. What happens after I send BTC to Coinbase address? And then what exactly I'm buying because "3-pack, 1-hero pre purchase" means absolutely nothing to me? Why would I need more then 1 hero? How many cards are in a card pack? Am I getting cards from block 1 or 2?

Also, http://index.deckbound.com/explorer does not work with Firefox.

[Kakmakr]

I like the whole concept of a digital collectible card game and it is a excellent idea to track it on the Blockchain. The free to play option is a bonus, and for the real enthusiast you could buy special cards. The key to the success of this project are going to be the quality of the graphics being done.

The more impressive the graphics, the more desirable the cards. Looking forward to see the final project. ^hmmm^

[Zombie123]

Can you explain what happens to initial investors. If they don't want to buy cards do you return in USD or Bitcoin ?

[SISAR]

This whole deal is puzzling me for many months now so I decided to finaly ask for some help. I don't find Deckbound website informative enough especially in end-user topics, there is a ton of info written but none of it really helps someone who just want to join for fun. For example, at https://www.deckbound.com/earlyaccess I can buy cards but upon clicking "buy now" button I've been redirected to Coinbase, what is not explained at all is if I'm supposed to send BTC from address I own or I can send BTC from anywhere, like exchanges. What happens after I send BTC to Coinbase address? And then what exactly I'm buying because "3-pack, 1-hero pre purchase" means absolutely nothing to me? Why would I need more then 1 hero? How many cards are in a card pack? Am I getting cards from block 1 or 2?

Also, http://index.deckbound.com/explorer does not work with Firefox.

Still looking for answers, anyone?