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August 01, 2012, 04:03:25 AM
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I'd just like to say I'm calling bullshit on the pirate photo. Here's the list of people I met during Defcon, and none of them are in that picture. I find it hard to believe that none of the people I met can identify anyone in those photos from our offline discussions - or I haven't see a post from them confirming it. If you're on this list below and spoke with anyone at defcon in that picture, speak up and correct me.

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  • Teflon
  • eCrash (teflon's friend)
  • Mike Caldwell
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  • Elliot (asian guy from LA)
  • The anti-forensics speaker dude


Hi Tuxavant,

I never claimed to be going to defcon. I have said this multiple times. I sure you met coingenuity (coinabul) and phantomcircuit who can verify that I was in Vegas along with others in the photo.

I'm not sure what your problem is.

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August 01, 2012, 04:14:39 AM
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Amazing isnt it - Also Giga VPS who was BFL's big shill in the early days now shills for Pirate.....
Then we have the multi trillion air that flew to BFL to reassure everyone (ask me anything, LOL SORRY CANT ANSWER ANYTHING YOUR FUCKING DUMB FOR NOT SPENDING MORE WITH BFL).

I'll bet you didnt meet any of the well known forum shills, ie Giga.

mem,

Maybe you should look through my post history to get a clue about what you are saying.

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August 01, 2012, 04:17:34 AM
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I'd just like to say I'm calling bullshit on the pirate photo. Here's the list of people I met during Defcon, and none of them are in that picture. I find it hard to believe that none of the people I met can identify anyone in those photos from our offline discussions - or I haven't see a post from them confirming it. If you're on this list below and spoke with anyone at defcon in that picture, speak up and correct me.

  • SethSethSeth
  • AndrewBitcoiner
  • Teflon
  • eCrash (teflon's friend)
  • Mike Caldwell
  • BitBlitz ?
  • Alexmat
  • Elliot (asian guy from LA)
  • The anti-forensics speaker dude


I met Goat in person and did a deal for a gold and silver coin.  He did not come into town for DefCon and did not have a DefCon badge - he said he was in Vegas to see Pirate.  We therefore met outside the DefCon conference area.  The person I met looks the same as the person in Goat's avatar (without the chopsticks), and also appears to be the person in the "PIRATE" photo 2nd from the right saying "hasa diga" with his middle finger.

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August 01, 2012, 04:34:00 AM
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I'd just like to say I'm calling bullshit on the pirate photo. Here's the list of people I met during Defcon, and none of them are in that picture. I find it hard to believe that none of the people I met can identify anyone in those photos from our offline discussions - or I haven't see a post from them confirming it. If you're on this list below and spoke with anyone at defcon in that picture, speak up and correct me.

  • SethSethSeth
  • AndrewBitcoiner
  • Teflon
  • eCrash (teflon's friend)
  • Mike Caldwell
  • BitBlitz ?
  • Alexmat
  • Elliot (asian guy from LA)
  • The anti-forensics speaker dude


Hi Tuxavant,

I never claimed to be going to defcon. I have said this multiple times. I sure you met coingenuity (coinabul) and phantomcircuit who can verify that I was in Vegas along with others in the photo.

I'm not sure what your problem is.

Regards,
gigavps

Actually you have been insinuating the opposite constantly and suggesting that anyone not believing the entire story is an idiot.

edit: this is the first post I have seen (you may have already made it known earlier) that clearly states you were not at DefCon and cannot verify if pirate was present.

Many people have asked you these specific questions which you have avoided (unless you did reply and I did not see).

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August 01, 2012, 04:40:18 AM
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I'd just like to say I'm calling bullshit on the pirate photo. Here's the list of people I met during Defcon, and none of them are in that picture. I find it hard to believe that none of the people I met can identify anyone in those photos from our offline discussions - or I haven't see a post from them confirming it. If you're on this list below and spoke with anyone at defcon in that picture, speak up and correct me.

  • SethSethSeth
  • AndrewBitcoiner
  • Teflon
  • eCrash (teflon's friend)
  • Mike Caldwell
  • BitBlitz ?
  • Alexmat
  • Elliot (asian guy from LA)
  • The anti-forensics speaker dude


Hi Tuxavant,

I never claimed to be going to defcon. I have said this multiple times. I sure you met coingenuity (coinabul) and phantomcircuit who can verify that I was in Vegas along with others in the photo.

I'm not sure what your problem is.

Regards,
gigavps

Actually you have been insinuating the opposite constantly and suggesting that anyone not believing the entire story is an idiot.

edit: this is the first post I have seen (you may have already made it known earlier) that clearly states you were not at DefCon and cannot verify if pirate was present.

Many people have asked you these specific questions which you have avoided (unless you did reply and I did not see).

I'm starting to question your reading comprehension.

1.  Please link to or quote a post where gigavps says he was going to defcon.
2.  Where does he say he cannot verify pirate.  He's in a picture with him and has stated several times he met with him.
3.  What questions are you talking about?  Every time pirate gets involved the threads turn into clusterfucks and it is impossible to keep track of every question, especially when most of them are off the wall stupid.

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August 01, 2012, 04:43:33 AM
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I'm starting to question your reading comprehension.

Ask away, what specifically about my reading comprehension would you like to question.

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August 01, 2012, 04:44:39 AM
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I'm starting to question your reading comprehension.

Ask away, what specifically about my reading comprehension would you like to question.

Way to ignore the problems I pointed out with your accusations.

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August 01, 2012, 04:47:16 AM
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I'm starting to question your reading comprehension.

Ask away, what specifically about my reading comprehension would you like to question.

Way to ignore the problems I pointed out with your accusations.

Answer the question so I can answer yours. What specifically about my reading comprehension do you have questions about ?

Its the 1st Q raised and unfortunately you were not very clear about your confusion on the subject.

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August 01, 2012, 04:54:21 AM
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I'm starting to question your reading comprehension.

Ask away, what specifically about my reading comprehension would you like to question.

Way to ignore the problems I pointed out with your accusations.

Answer the question so I can answer yours. What specifically about my reading comprehension do you have questions about ?

Its the 1st Q raised and unfortunately you were not very clear about your confusion on the subject.

I spelled it out already:
1.  Please link to or quote a post where gigavps says he was going to defcon.
2.  Where does he say he cannot verify pirate.  He's in a picture with him and has stated several times he met with him.
3.  What questions are you talking about?  Every time pirate gets involved the threads turn into clusterfucks and it is impossible to keep track of every question, especially when most of them are off the wall stupid.

But, you're just trolling.

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August 01, 2012, 04:58:13 AM
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I'm starting to question your reading comprehension.

Ask away, what specifically about my reading comprehension would you like to question.

Way to ignore the problems I pointed out with your accusations.

Answer the question so I can answer yours. What specifically about my reading comprehension do you have questions about ?

Its the 1st Q raised and unfortunately you were not very clear about your confusion on the subject.

I spelled it out already:
1.  Please link to or quote a post where gigavps says he was going to defcon.
2.  Where does he say he cannot verify pirate.  He's in a picture with him and has stated several times he met with him.
3.  What questions are you talking about?  Every time pirate gets involved the threads turn into clusterfucks and it is impossible to keep track of every question, especially when most of them are off the wall stupid.

But, you're just trolling.

Damn no bites.

Yes I did mis-read.

1. Giga does indeed seem to be shilling hard for Pirate and claiming to have met etc etc. I had questions about his honesty due to relations with BFL. Now he endorses pirates obvious ponzi scheme and mocks anyone for doubting such an obvious scheme - I have no doubt Giga is directly involved in the long con (or is trusting idiot with to much money).
2. He still cannot verify pirate (hey look a photo).
3. No argument.

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August 01, 2012, 12:20:39 PM
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Damn no bites.

Yes I did mis-read.

1. Giga does indeed seem to be shilling hard for Pirate and claiming to have met etc etc. I had questions about his honesty due to relations with BFL. Now he endorses pirates obvious ponzi scheme and mocks anyone for doubting such an obvious scheme - I have no doubt Giga is directly involved in the long con (or is trusting idiot with to much money).
2. He still cannot verify pirate (hey look a photo).
3. No argument.


Since I am "shilling hard for Pirate" I will quote what I said in the only other thread talking about meeting up in Vegas (and specifically not going to Defcon).

It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.

I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.

I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.

Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.

For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.
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August 01, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
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Dont know why Giga is so defensive either.. I never directed any question to him directly..

It wasn't you that irked him, it was mem:
Amazing isnt it - Also Giga VPS who was BFL's big shill in the early days now shills for Pirate.....

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I'll bet you didnt meet any of the well known forum shills, ie Giga.

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August 02, 2012, 09:35:01 AM
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Damn no bites.

Yes I did mis-read.

1. Giga does indeed seem to be shilling hard for Pirate and claiming to have met etc etc. I had questions about his honesty due to relations with BFL. Now he endorses pirates obvious ponzi scheme and mocks anyone for doubting such an obvious scheme - I have no doubt Giga is directly involved in the long con (or is trusting idiot with to much money).
2. He still cannot verify pirate (hey look a photo).
3. No argument.


Since I am "shilling hard for Pirate" I will quote what I said in the only other thread talking about meeting up in Vegas (and specifically not going to Defcon).

It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.

I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.

I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.

Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.

For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.

Hi Giga,

So you have met pirate (or met someone who you believed to be) that sounds fair.
What is your current position on his operation and how would you advise potential new investors (if you would at all) ?

People seem desperate for info and others like myself are hungry for the gossip.

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August 02, 2012, 11:34:02 AM
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Hi Giga,

So you have met pirate (or met someone who you believed to be) that sounds fair.
What is your current position on his operation and how would you advise potential new investors (if you would at all) ?

People seem desperate for info and others like myself are hungry for the gossip.

Hi mem,

I will quote myself from the other thread again.

Best,
gigavps

Consider how this appears from those outside looking in.  Some of the biggest names in Bitcoin meet with the 'biggest dog' (known, that is) in Bitcoin.  Yet, after this meeting, not much at all is said.

Thanks for your post. I can appreciate you being open and honest about your desire for me to confirm or deny facts. Consider my point of view though. I would like to think that I have a pretty good reputation on the forums because I have always tried to be helpful, share information and be respectful (most of the time). I hope I have earned this respect / trust over the last year and I would like to think that it is worth something.

That said, all of pirate's detractors here on the forums are on a witch hunt. If I confirm or deny ANYTHING, they will twist what I say to fit their point of view and keep the flame war going. So, I am in the unenviable position of "damned if I do, damned if I don't". The hostile environment created here is not conducive to sharing information in a way that is either helpful or respectful.

I have confirmed along with others on the forums that pirateat40 showed up and we had a good time.
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