Loan for community in mountains

[jonald_fyookball]

We can be friends. 

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

[Buffer Overflow]

I think you missed everything I said in my last post, let me quote it for you again.

As a society, we are on the road towards extinction.  We are living completely unsustainably.

As a person, I'm using minimal resources in order to bring about a change in society.  Is the cotton tent I plan on living in made from fibers from earth?  Yes.  Does the 77 pound tent use nearly as much resources as a 100 ton house?  No.

The major issue is that we are not living our own lives, we are living a facade for the will of something other than us.  If we all did what made us happy, by helping others, we wouldn't have the problems we have in the world today.  We wouldn't have these trillion dollar big pharma, big oil and big banking industries.  We wouldn't have war.  We would have prosperity and progression.  Such a gross amount of energy is going towards consumptuous life styles and building an exponentially growing society that is completely out of line with nature.  The average person leaves a negative footprint on the world, I'm doing my best to live a simplistic life while contributing to others by creating food, music and ideas for a better world.

Do I use things that were made by society?  Yes.  I wear shoes, I wear pants, shirts, underwear all manufactured by large corporations.  I ride a motorcycle manufactured in Japan because that's what society offered.  The society I was born into was molded this way, so I am working with what I have.

I have a Fender Strat and Marshall amplifier, both of which I'm sure are registered as incorporation, but I am utilizing these tools to distribute a positive message of love through music.

I'm going to organize a music festival of a large scale, that will use a 140' stage, over 100 array speakers, 100 lights, a large LED video wall and a shit ton of porta pottys, all manufactured by companies.

You fall short to see the intentions of my life.  I'm living to make a positive change.  I have handed my life into the will of god, which is why I can do the things I do without fear.  I have nothing but faith, and as every day passes, that power only grows.

Don't think I think you're all horrible people for consuming earth and building society as you did, I don't.  We all do the best we can with the information given.  You did your best, just as I did my best when conducting my business with squall.  Now that doesn't mean we should close ourselves off from growing and learning.  Change is hard to do, that's human nature, but when presented with a higher understanding of life and how it could be, we oughta strive to manifest it into reality, not cling to the way it is.  If we always held onto the past, we would never move forward through time.

I believe everyone is a good person deep down.  What matters is if you believe you're a good person, not what you think but what you believe.

We had to make society the way it is for it to be as it is now.  We needed people like Hitler, Bush and Obama.  We needed them to fuck things up a bit for us to become aware of the nature of the world and learn from it.  We needed WWII to give birth to the counter culture in the 60's.  We need error in human life to learn as a species and grow.  It is the human experience.  It is all perfect is you truly see it so.  But at some point, we need to simply man up and take the information we have learned and do something with it.  We needed to create and destroy earth in order to develop intellectually to where we are now.  But now that we have found a higher level of understanding, with the power of the internet, psychedelics and the will of youth, we need to do something with it.

Rather than living the same pattern of a life indefinitely until you die, let's create a new way of life.  Let's create a world where people don't die.  I know it's possible, I know how to do it, I know I will not die, so let's stop the stupid games of judgment and doubt.  Take a step back and find some humility.  We all make mistakes, we all are wrong.  I have been wrong so many times in my life, but the only thing that matters is that I have acknowledged when I was wrong and only once you see and accept your misconceptions can you find the truth.  If you cling to the delusion you were brought up with forever, you will never find the true state of reality.

Why can't we love each other?  Why can't we be friends?  Why can't you ask questions rather than call names?  Why can't we be the product of millions of years of evolution that we are?

Maybe we are the ones trying to help you, and you just can't see it.

Anyway, back to the iPhone...

[dank]

We can be friends. 

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

[jonald_fyookball]

We can be friends.  

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

I think you have potential, you have some good thoughts.  
But, nearly everyone here sees you as a mooch, at the least...
because of all the loan requests, the sporadic repayments,
the refusal to get a job, etc.

So, I can consider you like that friend who's kind of a mooch.
You love him but you don't want to enable his mooching ways,
or give him money.

I agree with the idea that you should work on your dreams
WHILE you're earning a living.  That's what I did... That's
what a lot of honest, hardworking folk do that have high
aspirations.

[Buffer Overflow]

We can be friends.  

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

Shill for whom?

By the way, what makes you think I've got tons of Bitcoins?

Am I in this supposed "scamring"?

[jonald_fyookball]

if it wasnt for me, vod, and buffer, you wouldn't get any attention lol

[bbeesley]

I have a Fender Strat and Marshall amplifier

Oh good, cause I was just going to put up a post about my starting a band.  The only thing I am missing is a Fender Strat and a Marshall amp

my plan is to create an environment where great music is generated, we get a big record contract, and I can pay back my investors in spades

I look forward to your donation of your axe and amp to the cause because I am sure you will be wanting to get involved in the ground floor of this artistic opportunity

[bigasic]

you mean to tell me that we all should be living in fucking tents? drinking water from a stream that could have a dead animal up stream contaminating everything? Oh, dont forget about the solar panels that are expensive as hell, well, you can do it cheap if all you want to do is run a 20 watt light bulb 3 or 4 hours a day..

Then, where are you going to get all the wood for your wood burning stoves? you just cant go cut down trees that are on government ground. they would have to come off the land you own.. There was a really funny movie with jennifer anniston that came out a year or two ago that you would relate to.

I just dont know what else to say.. but you are very entertaining.. just when I think ive heard it all, I read one of your threads... What are you smoking these days?

[bigasic]

I found 20 acres of land going for 400 a month as a rental.  I could get this community going for $10,000, starting with 5 rental tents.  At $15,000 we could have 12 tents up and making anywhere up to $1500/month income - meaning the loan could be paid back within a year and a half to two years.

At $20,000 we could have 18 tents up generating around $2500/month.  If we only subtract enough money for the cost of the land, the loan could be paid off within a year.

Interest would be on your terms.

Where is exactly is this location you are talking about?

[dank]

you mean to tell me that we all should be living in fucking tents? drinking water from a stream that could have a dead animal up stream contaminating everything? Oh, dont forget about the solar panels that are expensive as hell, well, you can do it cheap if all you want to do is run a 20 watt light bulb 3 or 4 hours a day..

Then, where are you going to get all the wood for your wood burning stoves? you just cant go cut down trees that are on government ground. they would have to come off the land you own.. There was a really funny movie with jennifer anniston that came out a year or two ago that you would relate to.

I just dont know what else to say.. but you are very entertaining.. just when I think ive heard it all, I read one of your threads... What are you smoking these days?

A Sibley cotton tent is 500-1200 dollars, up to 300 square feet.  Solar panels are about $1500 for 1000 watts, that's enough to power a 100W 4.5 cuft refrigerator, a computer and plenty of lights.  Reverse osmosis system will run you about $500-$1000 dollars depending on your clean water needs.  Add a stove for $100 or so.

So, around $4000 for a comfortable setup in a tent, or $40,000-$400,000+ for an inefficient debt machine of a house.

Yeah, what's wrong with that?

I plan on having my own land.  But speaking on the matter, government's land?  Last time I checked, the government was of the people, by the people, for the people.  That is our land.

I found 20 acres of land going for 400 a month as a rental.  I could get this community going for $10,000, starting with 5 rental tents.  At $15,000 we could have 12 tents up and making anywhere up to $1500/month income - meaning the loan could be paid back within a year and a half to two years.

At $20,000 we could have 18 tents up generating around $2500/month.  If we only subtract enough money for the cost of the land, the loan could be paid off within a year.

Interest would be on your terms.

Where is exactly is this location you are talking about?

Appalachian mountains.

[DigitalCurrencyConsultant]

seem like a great idea. Maybe you could build some earthships, and cob style houses with solar and all of us might come since we get free electricity and also maybe you could call us Bitcoin city USA since we could mine and trade all day. I think it's a great idea myself but I have no Bitcoin to loan. But I'm in support of your project.

Also nice music

Dream Big and don't let anybody squash your dreams.  

[dank]

seem like a great idea. Maybe you could build some earthships, and cob style houses with solar and all of us might come since we get free electricity and also maybe you could call us Bitcoin city USA since we could mine and trade all day. I think it's a great idea myself but I have no Bitcoin to loan. But I'm in support of your project.

Also nice music

Dream Big and don't let anybody squash your dreams.  

Thanks man, really appreciate it.  Cob houses would be awesome but they can take a while to build unless you have a good amount of people working on them.  Especially compared to these tents, they take about 20 minutes to pitch.  One day though..

Can't say the community will be bitcoin based though, I'm looking for this community to transcend beyond money with time.  Just humans helping humans live, like the good ole days.

Maybe we could all build a community cob house if the manpower is there.

[Buffer Overflow]

Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

[dank]

Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

I have no problem with tits personally.

But in all seriousness, tent stoves exist and will suffice in keeping the area warm.

Cold is also in your head.  You're only cold if you think you're cold.  A good friend told me that back in the day.  Temperature is all relative to perception.

And I love the snow, should be awesome.

[DigitalCurrencyConsultant]

Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

hey the cold could be resolved by geothermal heating also.  
and dank I sent you a message

[dank]

Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

hey the cold could be resolved by geothermal heating also.  
and dank I sent you a message

Would that work with the constructs of a tent on a small budget?

[Buffer Overflow]

Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

I have no problem with tits personally.

But in all seriousness, tent stoves exist and will suffice in keeping the area warm.

Cold is also in your head.  You're only cold if you think you're cold.  A good friend told me that back in the day.  Temperature is all relative to perception.

And I love the snow, should be awesome.

Well you won't be needing heating then will you? Remember dank, think warm!!
I highly recommend you ignore this friend of yours. He/she is spoon feeding you complete rot.

We can be friends. 

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

Shill for whom?

By the way, what makes you think I've got tons of Bitcoins?

Am I in this supposed "scamring"?

Well?

[DigitalCurrencyConsultant]

@ Dank
Geothermal would work around building snow walls around the tent to keep some of the wind and cold out. So you can do that cheap and free but takes time. Start with bushes and rock wall in the fall so the snow can fall on it then start piling snow on it during the winter. It will help keep heat in and the cold out  

sent you a second message)

[bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc]

''Trust: -20: -5 / +0(0)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
Ignore''

Why do you even bother? Don't you feel ashamed? No self-respect, nothing.

[dank]

Camp sounds fun...

...till winter sets in.

Cold, wet, hungry. Everyone starts getting on each others tits and wants to go home.

Wasn't there a film sort of like this? Set on an island?
Turned out to be a living hell.

I have no problem with tits personally.

But in all seriousness, tent stoves exist and will suffice in keeping the area warm.

Cold is also in your head.  You're only cold if you think you're cold.  A good friend told me that back in the day.  Temperature is all relative to perception.

And I love the snow, should be awesome.

Well you won't be needing heating then will you? Remember dank, think warm!!
I highly recommend you ignore this friend of yours. He/she is spoon feeding you complete rot.

We can be friends. 

Are you still going to be my friend when I tell people not
to loan to you because you haven't paid back the previous loan?

That's not very friendly of you.  Friends normally understand one another.

Buffer, you, vod and jonald are all shills.  Do you think someone with this level of awareness would not notice after being shilled for nearly three years?

I have been told personally that vod is within a scamring of early adopters that are comparable to the greediest fucks in charge today.  All they give a damn about is securing their wealth in BTC so they can live their grandiose delusion of a materialistic life of greed just to have a miserable death.  It's not hard to feel the hate resonating off the posts of vod.

Shill for whom?

By the way, what makes you think I've got tons of Bitcoins?

Am I in this supposed "scamring"?

Well?

No, it is completely true.  If you constantly tell yourself you're cold, you're going to feel a lot colder than if you don't think about it at all.

I don't care who you shill for, it doesn't matter, what matters is that you do.