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August 16, 2014, 05:00:44 AM |
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that's exactly the questions I asked in their thread, glad you posted a thread to discuss it. thanks.
I have this question myself for some time, I saw your message in their thread. It's better have a separate thread to discuss it. I would suggest you look at XC's Dev, Dan Metcalf's resume, and see that he is quite capable of what he says. Also, you will have a nice shot at a very nice bounty very soon with the 3.0 release and a look at the whitepaper coming out soon. Resume does not mean anything, do you know satoshi's resume? People put all bullshits in their resumes. If the XC truly supports multisig, just show a multisig address as greenclover asked. Very simple. If you ask me whether Mammothcoin / supercoin's supersend really support multisig or not, I can show you their multisig address/tx in 10 secs, very easy. So don't talk garbage here, show the facts. It is always nice to see people called out in clear, concise language and then just have to sit back to see how they respond. So, how about it? Can anyone post details of multisig tx in XC? What clear and concise language? It appears most of your fudcrew lack the basic grammar skills required to construct a simple sentence. Half of you sound like cavemen, enjoy your woolly mammoth :-)
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August 16, 2014, 05:33:17 AM |
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I thought the mammoth went extinct?
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August 16, 2014, 05:35:53 AM |
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I thought the mammoth went extinct?
XCactly my point ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 16, 2014, 05:37:07 AM |
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XC absolutely have nothing, just cheating. Their supporters must ask from dev (the authority lol.) pay for their potential loses in the future!They seem buzz words experts but absulately not multisig ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Are you the Mammoth coin dev, posting under another account? Your English usage is very similar.
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August 16, 2014, 05:53:23 AM |
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I don't mind of Mamm goes up. Though I don't think it will rival XC. But ..who knows. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Here are my most recent purchases. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) CLOSED DATE OPENED DATE TYPE BID/ASK UNITS FILLED MAMM UNITS TOTAL MAMM ACTUAL RATE COST / PROCEEDS 08/13/2014 08:57:10 08/11/2014 10:01:41 Sell Partial 0.00000650 103.64185073 5000.00000000 0.00000649 0.00067199 08/11/2014 10:23:37 08/11/2014 10:02:25 Sell Partial 0.00000600 1195.23863612 5000.00000000 0.00000604 0.00720535 08/04/2014 20:17:00 08/02/2014 19:49:25 Buy 0.00000260 10000.00000000 10000.00000000 0.00000259 0.02606498 08/01/2014 05:37:01 07/31/2014 16:08:50 Buy 0.00000250 10000.00000000 10000.00000000 0.00000250 0.02506249 07/30/2014 16:22:25 07/30/2014 08:39:18 Buy 0.00000231 10000.00000000 10000.00000000 0.00000230 0.02313224 07/30/2014 06:57:20 07/30/2014 06:57:19 Buy 0.00000261 10000.00000000 10000.00000000 0.00000261 0.02616525 The mammothcoin dev wants the coin to be in the top 3 coins. I hope he succeeds after buying so cheaply. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We have great technology and purpose. I want to see mammoth top 3 famous coins in 2 months and i need help from you to do this.
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August 16, 2014, 05:54:36 AM |
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Have any one watched this video?
Yes..what about it?
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August 16, 2014, 05:57:02 AM |
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XC, a hot alt coin, claims that it is a trustless system and uses multisig technology to do it. See below ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2F3kzdq8no3%2FCapture.png&t=665&c=9xuOQF49fO8_6w) But I am puzzled by the fact that despite they talk like this, I don't see a single multisig address in XC nor do I see any multisig tx. As we all know, these are the central parts, if we do use this technology, we will see a lot talk about it, like in whitepaper, in thread discussions, the multisig addresses and tx are shown in the blockchain explorer etc (look at Superoicn/MammothCoin's threads, there are plenty talk on that. I can find quickly 10 multisig addresses and associated with transactions, they are currently doing alpha tests in mammothcoin network, so all the multisig addresses are for Mammothcoin, soon I expect to see for supercoinsm which is scheduled for beta tests). Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions? This should be an easy thing to do. But since I don't see any, I doubt if the multisig is really implemented in XC. It looks more like a scam to me. Also, when I search the XC thread, I see this from someone (likely a dev of XC): ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Flqf8b7ngd%2FCapture.png&t=665&c=9xV7kDziHCvnPA) m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever? Do you guys understand what is a multisig address and how to use it? It looks like this is a scam. Otherwise please show me some good examples you use in XC. BTW, for Mammothcoin, they are testing for multisig trustless systems now, you see plenty multisig addresses and transactions there, you can even join the tests I think. There are some recordings in Mammothcoin/Supercoin's thread, for example: http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/c2j2IinsMOand this is one of many multisig address with some transactions associated with it (there are plenty similar ones): http://chainz.cryptoid.info/mamm/address.dws?bTz39geL1BR5UUdAciB8oh1F33eW1FXFcW.htmAlso they explained very clearly the concept and detailed workflow they use for the multisig trustless system: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736705.msg8324932#msg8324932Can you show me similar details in XC? If it is really there ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Good thread title, did you stop going to school in grade 3 ?
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August 16, 2014, 06:06:00 AM |
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Have any one watched this video?Mammothcoin is the First Truly Decentralized Anonymous Crypto Currency. *based on multisig
Learn more what and how multisig used for truly decentralized products : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK85PCee3pUIt is clear and understandable. I watched video i think XC dev should also watch it to learn some real stuff. 5 and 6 MAMMs transfer tests with truly Decentralised Anonmous currency1 http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/c2j2lynsM2 *new one coming soon 2 http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/c2j2IinsMOfirst 5 MAMM send to outside wallet by SuperSend you notice it sends little more 10.5001 Because 5 MAMM is your coin 5 MAMM is used for escrow exactly same amount with initial transfer 0,0001 is the transfer fee *you are paying this in standart transfers as well 0.5 MAMM is transfer fee which basicly splits between (mixer) and guarantor escrow 5 MAMM coin returns back to you after transfer successfully completes so when mixer send 5 coins to the destination, you verified, and happy and i run the command getlastanontxinfo it is special command works in our p2p decentralised system wallets multisig address starts with b created during the process it is unknown to anyone then i visited block explorer and showed the transaction logs there... for more details you can refer to detailed explanation given at this source https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736705.msg8324932#msg8324932You can watch 1 and 2 videos to see process how fast and easy p2p decentralised transfer happens really fast. As far as i know its the fastest yet. I saw some people claim XC is a trustless and using multisig tx ask your dev to post the block explorer link to a multisig address. Otherwise it's a pure hype. I posted lots of multisig address in my videos. Check them. Stop the fud over Mammothcoin. Don't spend my time. I find it utterly hilarious that your dumbass dev is trying to spread FUD about another coin in the god damn OP of the MAMM thread. Seriously, I have not a single clue what the hell you guys are smoking over there, but multisig has been proven to work since 7/7. Test it yourself, there is no reason to prove anything because we already have it and it has been confirmed by several members if you even bother reading through our thread. No one from the XC community will take you guys seriously when stupid threads like this are posted.
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August 16, 2014, 06:43:09 AM |
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This is pathetic lol ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) XC sure makes you guys scared hey...everything you want to know is in our thread, if you want to know read it, why should we do the work for you just to prove you wrong, we don't care....and there is a month old bounty still unclaimed for 2 BTC if you can connect the sender to receiver address, so go ahead knock yourselves out, cheplin from DRK did..it was extremely amusing he wanted that BTC but he...failed and gave up, now you can fail and give up while we all watch...have fun.
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August 16, 2014, 06:54:10 AM |
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It is always nice to see people called out in clear, concise language and then just have to sit back to see how they respond.
Or not respond. I guess the people who like XC, will buy XC, and the people who like Mammoth or other coins will buy those coins. Mammoth could go up ten times its current price is and it would still be way cheaper than XC. So it's pretty clear what to do. But I should disclose that I bought quite a few Mamm around the 250 Satoshi mark, so I don't mind if it goes up. I would have thought the smart thing to do for people who really believe the Mammoth story would have been to buy Mammoth rather than trash other coins.
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August 16, 2014, 07:10:18 AM |
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+100000 Post up multi-sig block-chian proof please - I have had these concerns for a while.
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August 16, 2014, 07:12:11 AM |
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How about no... go read the thread no one cares if any of you invest...no one owes you any explanation, god gave you a brain, and a pair of eyes so use them.
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August 16, 2014, 08:04:07 AM Last edit: August 16, 2014, 08:19:24 AM by adhitthana |
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+100000 Post up multi-sig block-chian proof please - I have had these concerns for a while.
Did you test for yourself? Have you followed the developments made public in various XC discussions? Added in edit: The important thing IMHO to show is not that a transaction can't be followed superficially on the blockchain but that it is also immune from various strategies to identify transactions via other means than merely the addresses. XC went through this long ago, and not only that, but XC had someone who really wanted to disprove it fail to do so, someone involved with DRK and who is quite bright. Have any other privacy coins had this done? Mammoth from what I understand has shown that it can obscure the path of transactions, but it was shown by those who wanted mammoth to succeed. This doesn't mean it doesn't work, but it's not quite as good IMHO
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August 16, 2014, 08:11:49 AM |
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+100000 Post up multi-sig block-chian proof please - I have had these concerns for a while.
Did you test for yourself? Have you followed the developments made public in various XC discussions? This is the big problem with people today they expect everything to be given, and want other people to do the work for them, i got a harsh reality for all people who think this way, you will fail miserably in all aspects of life, business, relationships, investments etc life is a two way street no one cares what u want u have to care enough to go get it yourself.
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August 16, 2014, 08:34:27 AM |
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August 16, 2014, 08:46:36 AM |
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Sorry guys, with over 1000 pages on the XC thread I can't find where this was dealt with, but it is some time ago. There are just too many pages. The best way, the surest way, is to test it yourself.
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August 16, 2014, 09:17:52 AM |
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Without even reading this properly i can tell you it's a Super/Mammouth coin yuppie writing this, I mean really think about it, Mammouth Coin, say it out loud right now a few times and ask yourself, is this the future........ Mammouths are Extinct and Coins is just following the garden path to try and succeed off Bitcoins back.
XC is next Generation XCurrency, it is break through technology following a new path which Super and Mammouth are trying to follow. The truth is a bunch of yuppies missed the XC Boat and are trying to create a life raft.
The fact XC development didn't get involved in these attempts by yuppie "Coins" to make a quick profit off the hard work of the next Generation XC XCurrency, goes to show just how dedicated and professional they are. It wouldn't surprise me if a public Launch of the Currency happened soon to.
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August 16, 2014, 09:54:02 AM |
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that's exactly the questions I asked in their thread, glad you posted a thread to discuss it. thanks.
I have this question myself for some time, I saw your message in their thread. It's better have a separate thread to discuss it. I would suggest you look at XC's Dev, Dan Metcalf's resume, and see that he is quite capable of what he says. Also, you will have a nice shot at a very nice bounty very soon with the 3.0 release and a look at the whitepaper coming out soon. Resume does not mean anything, do you know satoshi's resume? People put all bullshits in their resumes. If the XC truly supports multisig, just show a multisig address as greenclover asked. Very simple. If you ask me whether Mammothcoin / supercoin's supersend really support multisig or not, I can show you their multisig address/tx in 10 secs, very easy. So don't talk garbage here, show the facts. hmm... noob question here, but i want to figure this out. what exactly is a multisig address? i thought the multisig is to ensure that no coins are stolen on anon transactions, ergo it is trustless. but why would you store it on the blockchain? or is a multisig address kind of a stealth address? because those are in the works since XChat rev is finished.
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August 16, 2014, 10:08:05 AM Last edit: August 16, 2014, 10:23:19 AM by synechist |
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Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions? Would these satisfy your curiosity? - http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?62014.htm- http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?229177.htmYou're an arse for fudding instead of just downloading the wallet and trying out Privacy Mode. m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever? So, your reasoning process: - timerland doesn't understand the point of m-of-m multisig. - timerland doesn't bother to ask people from XC what m-of-m is used for. - timerland simply concludes, with the foolhardiness of a drunk pullet, that the truth is not that he lacks understanding but that XC is a scam. You're not very civil are you? Just come and ask us questions next time instead of creating a fruitless and irritating FUD thread. If you have further questions, you're welcome to ask, nicely.
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August 16, 2014, 11:12:36 AM |
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But I am puzzled by the fact that despite they talk like this, I don't see a single multisig address in XC nor do I see any multisig tx. As we all know, these are the central parts, if we do use this technology,
Except multi-sig is only part of what XC is doing. With XC we have a developer who is very interested in the underlying issues and concepts, and a man who has some very relevant technical experience in the field. So we have something a bit different, an entire platform with many different facets.
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