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Question: How many backup copies have you for the wallet ? (i mean, physical copies like files or paper)
1 copy
2 copies
3 copies
more than 5 copies
The Force keep my copy in my body ! (Brain password wallet = no physical copy)

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August 17, 2014, 07:18:41 PM
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Can a USB fail?

I use the Electrum wallet so my backup is a 12 word seed.  Actually seeds as I have multiple wallets.

2 copies are with people who I can trust my life with.  I have access to one of the sd boxes.  This also means if when I die my btc lives on.

1 copy is in a wall in my house.

You got me thinking.  I need to bury one at my summer home.
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August 17, 2014, 07:30:03 PM
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3 are enough I think
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August 17, 2014, 07:33:13 PM
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3 copies in separate areas.
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August 17, 2014, 08:20:04 PM
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I had 2 paper wallets but I accidentally opened one of them instead of another so I lost my backup.
I hope my house doesn't flood.
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August 17, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
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Can a USB fail?

No if you don't use it.
Yes ... but always because of the software that it restore.  Grin
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August 17, 2014, 09:18:20 PM
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Can a USB fail?

No if you don't use it.
Yes ... but always because of the software that it restore.  Grin
It can fail mechanicaly by too big moisture, by bad manipulation or by short circuit quite easily, you should rather go for more expensive and known brands.
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August 17, 2014, 09:20:30 PM
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on SD perhaps (contact are very cheap) ... but not with soldering memory on USB real plug.
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August 17, 2014, 09:41:04 PM
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Can a USB fail?

No if you don't use it.
Yes ... but always because of the software that it restore.  Grin
It can fail mechanicaly by too big moisture, by bad manipulation or by short circuit quite easily, you should rather go for more expensive and known brands.
It is generally best to keep multiple copies of your backup in various storage formats, eg, paper wallets, USB drive, flash drive (from different manufacturers). This would lessen the chances that you would have no access to your keys.

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August 17, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
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I have 4 copies in different locations but thats only for my cold storage wallet.

That is risky, because if one is in the wrong hand, others become useless. I'd prefer to have only one that is well secured.

I have pendrives with truecrypt volumes and the wallet is encrypted itself. So I have two layers of encryption. There is no problem if someone gets one copy. Also I have a few copies and also memorized of the electrum seeds, which I have rewritten into some pages that only me knows how to interpret.
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August 18, 2014, 12:48:15 AM
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Only have 1 copy because i don't have much btc in my wallet
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August 18, 2014, 03:54:04 AM
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I remember someone had hundreds of wallets and he don't need a back up. If one of those wallets are compromised he will start to move the others, but to manage so many wallets, you must be a IT professional with good scripting skill

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August 18, 2014, 06:56:11 AM
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I have 3 copies, none on paper all 3 on different usb drives and I think it's enough.

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August 18, 2014, 09:11:37 AM
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I have 4 copies in different locations but thats only for my cold storage wallet.

That is risky, because if one is in the wrong hand, others become useless. I'd prefer to have only one that is well secured.

No. You can have multiple layers of security.

For example:

1. Set a good walletpassword. A long string, 35+char with special signs.
2. PGP encrypt the wallet itself.
3. Use stenography to put it inside a picture.

What somebody peaking at your usb-stick would see would just be vacation001.jpeg etc, and no wallet.dat. They wouldn't even know it's there, and if they knew, they sure as hell would be unable to extract anything from it.

You can also rent a few VPS'es, and save the wallets there (password protected wallets that are also pgp encrypted), and name it like something innocent, like wifi-driver.bin or something.

So, even if your house burned down, you'd be safe.

I kinda like the stenography concept myself but the truth is that there are tools that easily detect such techniques. If an attacker is specifically targeting your bitcoins he will probably discover pretty fast in which files you are hiding something.

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1. Set a good walletpassword. A long string, 35+char with special signs.


This is top security.

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2. PGP encrypt the wallet itself.


Top security, but probably overkill considering you already did 1.

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3. Use stenography to put it inside a picture.


Only 3 would be very bad security, combined with 1 (and/or 2) is OK but quite unnecessary IMO. The bad side of techniques like stenography is that they might seem like the most secure option to a non-savvy user - and a false sense of security is the mother of all hacks Smiley

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August 18, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
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6 backups at the moment, encrypted on USB's and SD cards. Two of them are stored in safe deposit boxes (two different companies), gave two out to some trusted friends and buried the others up a mountain (in two different locations)  Grin

ahhh correct, i forgot my CDs  Cheesy

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you gave it to friends? do you think this is a good idea? hopefully encrypted?

Yeah all my backups are encrypted, the friends I gave a copy to are completely unaware what's stored on the USBs  Wink
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August 22, 2014, 08:06:37 PM
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It depends how much bitcoin you want to store.I have few bitcoin to store.so i have only one copy of my wallet.
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August 22, 2014, 10:11:09 PM
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I'm using coinbase so I don't need copy Tongue

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Never ever . 
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August 22, 2014, 10:12:03 PM
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6 backups at the moment, encrypted on USB's and SD cards. Two of them are stored in safe deposit boxes (two different companies), gave two out to some trusted friends and buried the others up a mountain (in two different locations)  Grin

ahhh correct, i forgot my CDs  Cheesy

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you gave it to friends? do you think this is a good idea? hopefully encrypted?

Yeah all my backups are encrypted, the friends I gave a copy to are completely unaware what's stored on the USBs  Wink


okay, at least they dont have a clue. you should keep it that way.

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August 22, 2014, 11:10:21 PM
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How many copies I have?
I'm sorry, but that is confidential information
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August 23, 2014, 04:50:23 AM
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Around 5 all being BIP-38 password-encrypted wallets. :-) I also have them on a couple of spare USBs that have never been connected to an internet enabled device.
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August 23, 2014, 08:15:39 AM
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2 copies, one on my table and one in my wardrobe..sufficient for me ..

Why would someone need 10+ copies?
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