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March 27, 2012, 05:01:28 PM
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I saw this story linked on Daily Paul.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035372_Michigan_pigs_farm_freedom.html#ixzz1qJqG9lz

Then watched this video linked to in the article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843yH_0RMIA&feature=youtu.be

Then visited the website of the family farm.

http://www.bakersgreenacres.com/

And thought it would be a good idea to ask them to put up a Bitcoin donation address. Whether or not they can stave off the onslaught coming from the Michigan State government is of little importance to me. I'm more concerned about getting a family farmer and someone who is very unhappy with the government to learn about and incorporate Bitcoin into their lives.

I'm going to contact them and offer them a small donation as soon as they put up a Bitcoin address.

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March 27, 2012, 10:22:16 PM
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Farmers are more upset with Wall St and MF Global for stealing their funds:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204083204577078512195569398.html
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March 27, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
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Yes, but how are we going to convince them to accept Bitcoin? The nice the about converting somebody to Bitcoin is that it's a lot easier when they're asking for a donation.  Wink

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March 27, 2012, 11:18:22 PM
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not sure how you'd tap into all that anger and distrust but its there.
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March 27, 2012, 11:22:25 PM
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Seems like most of the guidelines are hair related: maybe they should shave their pigs?
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March 28, 2012, 12:57:57 AM
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Maybe it is time to move to the freest state in America.

http://freestateproject.org/

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March 28, 2012, 01:13:54 AM
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Maybe it is time to move to the freest state in America.

http://freestateproject.org/

I almost mentioned that in my email to him but decided against it. Chances of him moving his whole farm aren't likely to happen unless he LOSES his whole farm. Would be nice though...

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March 28, 2012, 01:20:55 AM
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Insane Michigan government announces plan to destroy ranch livestock based on hair color and arrest hundreds of ranchers as felons

What the actual fuck is this shit? Sounds like it's time to start using the Second Amendment rights and have a local militia to defend against the government. That is exactly why the amendment is there, although it is certain that the Federales would call it murder and not defense.

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March 28, 2012, 01:38:36 AM
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not sure how you'd tap into all that anger and distrust but its there.

It'll be easy to tap in this case, for Mark stated he's seeking dollars to fight this war and at the end of the video he said...

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I would of like to have been there at the revolution. I really would of.

First and foremost, any Bitcoin donation address should be controlled by him or some trusted member on this forum.

A unique vanity address should be created: 1BGAcres or something similar comes to mind.

Although this doesn't fit the criteria, Bitcoin 100 could do everything in its power to guarantee at least 100 BTC will be donated to their cause, short of extracting a single Satoshi from what has already been donated. After 30 days, if the 100 BTC goal is not met, I will provide the balance at that time. If somebody else comes forward and states the same, then my liability would be halved (likewise, if a third party joins, etc.). Either way, at the end of 30 days, there will be at least 100 BTC donated to this cause, even if I have to donate 95 BTC if only 5 BTC is donated. Quite frankly, I don't give a shit.

Somebody, please quote me.

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March 28, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
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Although this doesn't fit the criteria, Bitcoin 100 could do everything in its power to guarantee at least 100 BTC will be donated to their cause, short of extracting a single Satoshi from what has already been donated. After 30 days, if the 100 BTC goal is not met, I will provide the balance at that time. If somebody else comes forward and states the same, then my liability would be halved (likewise, if a third party joins, etc.). Either way, at the end of 30 days, there will be at least 100 BTC donated to this cause, even if I have to donate 95 BTC if only 5 BTC is donated. Quite frankly, I don't give a shit.

I pledge 2 BTC to the cause.
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March 28, 2012, 02:46:36 AM
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These kind of situations can be addressed by targeting the cause of the problem namely in this case the members of the Michigan Pork Producers Association with a punitive consumer boycott. The boycott to remain in place until one of two things happen: The harassment of the small farmers by the state ends or the members of the Michigan Pork Producers Association declare bankruptcy.

When businesses that lobby government for oppressive laws start to feel the financial pressure the impact of the lobbying will be minimized and more often than not the oppressive laws will go nowhere. We saw this for example with SOPA and the GoDaddy flip flop.

I am not convinced that getting the farmers in question to accept Bitcoin will do much for the cause.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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March 28, 2012, 03:32:40 AM
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Great idea.  I'll just get right on boycotting food producers by not eating.  That will show them.

Do you really not see the difference between boycotting digital goods that are infinitely fungible and boycotting the producers of actual goods that are backed by hundreds of millions of dollars in physical infrastructure?  In the middle of an inflationary depression in which commodity prices are soaring and an all-time record 45 million Americans are on food stamps?  I mean, are you one of those people who thinks boycotting gasoline is a good idea as well?

Pork producers don't care whether a few uppity hipsters buy their sausages or not.  They can always sell directly to the welfare state, which will extract payment from you regardless of your consent.

This is called fascism.  Recognize it.  Learn to deal with it on the correct terms.  This guy at least seems to realize what he's up against.

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March 28, 2012, 06:26:11 AM
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Great idea.  I'll just get right on boycotting food producers by not eating.  That will show them.

Ever heard of a farmers market? slow food? the 100 mile diet? There a lot of food options that do not support large multinational agri business and guess what are far healthier than the heavily marketed, chemical laden, nutrient depleted "food" that many Americans eat. Guess what it is even available from the same supermarkets. Furthermore your body will thank you for it. By the way obesity and related diseases are an epidemic in the United States.

Do you really not see the difference between boycotting digital goods that are infinitely fungible and boycotting the producers of actual goods that are backed by hundreds of millions of dollars in physical infrastructure?  In the middle of an inflationary depression in which commodity prices are soaring and an all-time record 45 million Americans are on food stamps?  I mean, are you one of those people who thinks boycotting gasoline is a good idea as well?
No I do not. Consumer boycotts work regardless of whether the goods are actual or digital. As for boycotting gasoline. A lot of good can come from parking ones car once in a while and walking, riding a bike, taking transit etc. Your pocketbook, body and the environment will thank you for it.

Pork producers don't care whether a few uppity hipsters buy their sausages or not.  They can always sell directly to the welfare state, which will extract payment from you regardless of your consent.

It is called the bottom line and business does care about the bottom line.

This is called fascism.  Recognize it.  Learn to deal with it on the correct terms.  This guy at least seems to realize what he's up against.

A consumer boycott is one of many effective weapons to have against fascism.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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March 28, 2012, 12:50:53 PM
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Maybe it is time to move to the freest state in America.

http://freestateproject.org/

I almost mentioned that in my email to him but decided against it. Chances of him moving his whole farm aren't likely to happen unless he LOSES his whole farm. Would be nice though...

wouldn't be a "decentralized" free state much less vulnerable anyway?

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April 16, 2012, 10:41:39 PM
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And here's what happened. Pretty heavy duty if you ask me.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035585_Michigan_farms_raids.html

I never did receive a reply back from that one farmer though about accepting Bitcoins. I can understand he's probably got enough on his plate right now he's not thinking about learning how to implement Bitcoins because one person promised a small donation.

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April 16, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
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Send it as an email with an attached wallet.dat file.

Introduced 3 people to BTC like that AND saved the hassle of buying gifts!

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