How to make own asics

[birkomester]

Hi i want to know how people are making asics.
I don't want to make my own i know its very expensive i just want to know how are they working.

[OnkelPaul]

Since you don't say what you already know about chipmaking, it's impossible to fill in the missing bits for you.
Basically, ASICs are normal integrated circuits that are produced according to the customer's design, while off-the-shelf CPUs or other chips are made to the chipmaker's design.
For detailed information, you'd probably best start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASIC

Onkel Paul

[birkomester]

TY.
And is building a BTC miner on breadboard without asic is possible?

[btmtb]

Hi i want to know how people are making asics.
I don't want to make my own i know its very expensive i just want to know how are they working.

I'll take a slightly different interpretation of your request, and assume you want to learn about assembling asics into usable devices. There have been some excellent discussions about this here on our own forum, the NanoFury project is a great resource https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321287.0;topicseen as a starting point.

Have a look at that, see if it's interesting to you.

Regarding the development of ASICs themselves,  you could look into some of Global Foundries generic videos for background info. If you really want see a clear example from the other side of the fence, of ASIC development failure look into Black Arrows incompetent development methods. That was a text-book example in how to underestimate the scale of work involved in developing at ASIC. They have ended up with a working chip, but are facing massive accusations of fraudulent claims, incompetent management, poor service, and basically alienated the entire mining community in the process. It seems like their engineers initially had no clue and failed on various basic electrical engineering challenges, including their own back-planes.

[azrin619]

You need some basic stuff like a HUGE POWER SUPPLY and a few rigs!

The schema looks like this

CPU=====USB HUBS(POWER IT)====ASIC Coinmine chips

U need to power AT LEAST 1000W of 5V dc to get it rigged up...

Might as well buy one from China costing u less than $1000 for 1Ths.
Most use Raspberry Pi

[OnkelPaul]

TY.
And is building a BTC miner on breadboard without asic is possible?

Possible?
Yes, in theory, with enough breadboard space and enough ICs.

Practical?
Not at all. The logic for bitcoin hashing would need several dozen separate ICs for just one hashing circuit, but the whole thing would be slow as hell and eat lots of power. It doesn't even have educational merit.

Do you have any specific goal in mind? If so, it's much easier if you tell us what you want to achieve instead of asking questions about specific parts of your plan that probably can't work as a whole.

Onkel Paul

[birkomester]

TY.
And is building a BTC miner on breadboard without asic is possible?

Possible?
Yes, in theory, with enough breadboard space and enough ICs.

Practical?
Not at all. The logic for bitcoin hashing would need several dozen separate ICs for just one hashing circuit, but the whole thing would be slow as hell and eat lots of power. It doesn't even have educational merit.

Do you have any specific goal in mind? If so, it's much easier if you tell us what you want to achieve instead of asking questions about specific parts of your plan that probably can't work as a whole.

Onkel Paul

 I have no goal.
I just want to know if an asic is just a mini-circuit?

[btmtb]

I have no goal.
I just want to know if an asic is just a mini-circuit?

ASIC

An application-specific integrated circuit (ASIC) (pronounced /ˈeɪsɪk/) is an integrated circuit (IC) customized for a particular use, rather than intended for general-purpose use.

Doesn't have to be an ASIC, FPGA's are more general purpose but less efficient and powerful.

FPGA

A field-programmable gate array (FPGA) is an integrated circuit designed to be configured by a customer or a designer after manufacturing – hence "field-programmable".

[MuttaFuttaGentleman]

I dont even know how to put a lightbulb, cant help you with this 

[MichaelBliss]

If what you want is something "hands on" I think ASICMINER is still offering an assemble-yourself miner.  You can build the miner yourself but it costs millions to develop the chip though.

[techgeek]

You need a right circuit board to be printed, and the software, chips etc, so then thats only for starters.

There are companies who build theses, but its expensive.

[tinof]

You need a semiconductor fabrication plant to manufacture ASIC chip.

There are less than a handful of them in the world due to cost and shortage of labor with highly specialized skill.

[MelodyRowell]

Making own asics is not easy, unless you are having like few hundred thousand of sales, its not worth to manufacturing yourself. Buy from bitmain instead.

[notlist3d]

To truly have your own "asic" if you mean from scratch it would be LOTs of money.

Your better off getting a asic miner (avoid pre-orders) made by someone already.

[melisande]

I have read on this forum that to setup ASIC is pretty expensive so why not wait till you have enough BTC in your wallet.

[DannyHamilton]

I have no goal.
I just want to know if an asic is just a mini-circuit?

An ASIC is an Application Specific Integrated Circuit.

So, while it is conceptually just an extremely small version of a discrete circuit that is build for a single purpose, an integrated circuit has some important benefits over a discrete circuit.

There are two main advantages of ICs over discrete circuits: cost and performance. Cost is low because the chips, with all their components, are printed as a unit by photolithography rather than being constructed one transistor at a time. Furthermore, much less material is used to construct a packaged IC die than to construct a discrete circuit. Performance is high because the components switch quickly and consume little power (compared to their discrete counterparts) as a result of the small size and close proximity of the components.

If you want to build an ASIC yourself, you'll need access to the necessary photolithography equipment and materials.

[Omikifuse]

First learn VHDL and do some courses on computer architeture and logical circuits, then you will be able to specializa yourself in ASICs and Bitcoin ASICS if you want to. I think you can find some introductory courses on Coursera

[BitCoinDream]

Hi i want to know how people are making asics.
I don't want to make my own i know its very expensive i just want to know how are they working.

U might find some related Schematics & PCB here - https://mega.co.nz/#!UwY0hbrK!xwLhgHgP0YgjfO8hxSxmLvjS4k_2lXLIlfHSK8AKnpw

p.s. Please note that I'm no master of this and I did not check the download myself. So, it is suggested to verify the downloadable for virus & malware check before U actually download it.

[Ayers]

not possible, you need to be a professional engineer, and even then you need to buy the chip, you can't simply make it, not to mention the programming part, impossible for one person only

[BitCoinDream]

not possible, you need to be a professional engineer, and even then you need to buy the chip, you can't simply make it, not to mention the programming part, impossible for one person only

AFAIK, this type of project does not get done by any single person. One needs to provide required design to a chip-manufacturing firm, which in turn gives back the customized chip. Its a bit different than how software industry works.