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April 02, 2012, 03:26:22 PM
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It doesent make sense to me...at first I thought they were just being objective, but now I see they are all a bunch of dicks

http://gizmodo.com/5898303/it-makes-total-sense-that-the-bankers-who-destroyed-our-economy-are-now-trading-bitcoin
http://gizmodo.com/5885040/bitcoin-suffers-another-setback
http://gizmodo.com/5828710/the-bitcoin-is-dying-whatever
http://gizmodo.com/5838089/world-famous-economist-paul-krugman-talks-a-whole-lotta-shit-about-bitcoin
http://gizmodo.com/5813622/bitcoin-price-tumbles-after-massive-account-hack-and-sell+off-on-trading-site-mtgox

Whats with the vendetta? Is it because their readership just doesent like Bitcoin or do they always hate on things?

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April 02, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
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Gawker..the name says it all. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gawker

Wonder if anyone there owns any....

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April 02, 2012, 03:29:28 PM
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WOW...

Noun   1.   gawker - a spectator who stares stupidly without intelligent awareness

..says it all.

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April 02, 2012, 03:32:50 PM
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As I remember Gizmodo was an Apple fan ( before the lawsuit against them ), Apple stay at the opposite side of freedom.
I think that the two things are related.

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April 02, 2012, 03:34:59 PM
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Sites like that (dailytech is another example) are heavily biased by the authors.  If a site has a concentration of authors who have a snap judgement about Bitcoin then articles will be slanted that way.

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The ignore phase was 2009 & 2010.  2011 was mostly the laugh phase.  If you look at the article in sequence the tones goes from one of laughably and mocking to harsh and biting.  People who thought Bitcoin was "stupid" in 2010 are getting frustrated because it is still around. 

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April 02, 2012, 03:38:19 PM
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http://gizmodo.com/5838089/world-famous-economist-paul-krugman-talks-a-whole-lotta-shit-about-bitcoin

Whats with the vendetta? Is it because their readership just doesent like Bitcoin or do they always hate on things?

"world-famous-keynesian-assclown-paul-krugman-talks-a-whole-lotta-shit-about-bitcoin" give me a fucking break

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April 03, 2012, 08:56:27 PM
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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/04/the-bankers-who-destroyed-our-economy-are-now-trading-bitcoin/ - "The Bankers Who Destroyed Our Economy Are Now Trading Bitcoin"

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April 03, 2012, 09:04:27 PM
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Yes, but if you notice the comments in each article you'll see that they are much more defensive of Bitcoin in the last article than ever before.  If anyone will change their tone it is their commenters.
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April 03, 2012, 09:57:10 PM
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As I remember Gizmodo was an Apple fan ( before the lawsuit against them ), Apple stay at the opposite side of freedom.
I think that the two things are related.

Even after that they still defending Apple in so many ways.

As DeathAndTaxes said what they produce depends a lot about the author opinion. That's called trash journalism if you can't keep your opinion out you're a bad journalist.

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April 03, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
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Please wrap those links with code tags...

I'm not asking, I'm FUCKING DEMANDING IT!
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ok ok, j/k, but you should know why I'm asking...

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April 04, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
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I assume they are embarrassed that they have been proven wrong and rather than admitting this, they are dubbing down. One need look no further than religious zealots, Obama birthers, UFO researchers, etc., to see this type of self delusion. It is in the nature of the absolutist mindset. This is why the world is changed by those who can be self critical, while the rigid stand by saying "This is not happening!".

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April 04, 2012, 01:33:55 AM
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I think people who are into computers and tech stuff will feel like they're supposed to have a strong opinion of Bitcoin, but they don't actually (necessarily) understand the social aspects of it. 

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April 04, 2012, 01:40:47 AM
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They don't know what they are talking about, plain and simple.

There's a point where someone is so monumentally wrong, so ass backwards on every point made, that arguing would serve no purpose. That's where Gizmodo is. They are a tabloid and a joke.
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April 04, 2012, 04:24:46 AM
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Any press is good, right? At least they’re keeping it in the news and making it current. We’re in trouble if they stop writing about Bitcoin.

Not necessarily. When the only press is completely devoid of facts, insists that it's a scam, or insists that it's only purpose is child pornography and terrorism, then the next step is an uninformed congressman lobbying to "shut it down." (Which, ironically, would make the lies of the sensational press come true.)
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April 04, 2012, 04:45:55 AM
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Exactly how would they go about "shutting it down?"

No idea how they would attempt to accomplish such a task (from what I understand, it would be akin to making linux "illegal," probably more difficult). But that wouldn't stop some senator or congressman from using the child pornography/terrorism angle from trying to make a big deal about it (and a name for his or her self) in congress. And then what happens to any attempt to encourage further legitimate adoption?

It would fall under the same stigma that Tor seems to be getting. I run a relay from my PC often, and I had friend over who say Vidalia running on my machine. He looked at me and asked, "what are you doing? looking at kiddie porn or something?" That's the rep it has, at least with some folks. I don't know the very long term goals of the project, but I know that growth is essential to the Bitcoin project. If people recoil, laugh, or assume you're a terrorist when you mention Bitcoin, then we will have a problem.

I have no idea what the power of the SEC would be in this matter, but I'm sure there is some government acronym that has the power to declare all Bitcoin commerce illegal. No legitimate business or non-profit can use bitcoins to transfer funds. Then what? \

I guess all I'm saying is that bad press is bad press, especially when it's fear mongering, bullshit press.
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April 04, 2012, 05:22:09 AM
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Any press is good, right? At least they’re keeping it in the news and making it current. We’re in trouble if they stop writing about Bitcoin.

Not necessarily. When the only press is completely devoid of facts, insists that it's a scam, or insists that it's only purpose is child pornography and terrorism, then the next step is an uninformed congressman lobbying to "shut it down." (Which, ironically, would make the lies of the sensational press come true.)

Exactly how would they go about "shutting it down?"
They come in your house and find bitcoin on your computer and arrest you for terrorism and child porn. Then you are in jail.
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April 04, 2012, 05:43:51 AM
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Well that's good. "Tried and died" is a better position that riding the hype to shut it down. I had known they wanted to shut down some of the markets, but I didn't realize they wanted to "shut down" bitcoin itself.

I'm still worried about the how the bad press will affect wider adoption, though.
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April 04, 2012, 06:00:40 AM
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I am going to start calling Gizmodo a ponzi developed by the pornography industry to funnel money to Islamic terrorists. And I would know, I'm kind-of computer guy.

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April 04, 2012, 11:19:29 AM
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ponzi developed by the pornography industry to funnel money to Islamic terrorists <--- like this.

Now, wrap those other links in code tags. Or do you guys want that any of those articles to pop up on Google's 1st page when people search for bitcoin?
Giving them backlinks, even without an anchor, from a related site, which bitcointalk.org is, is helping them to rank for the search term "bitcoin" with those articles.

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April 04, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
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And how would that shut down Bitcoin?

Shutting down is likely impossible but Congress Critters talk it sound bites.

"shutting down" = make it extremely difficult to use and allow the network to atrophy.

They "shut down" Online Poker in the US.  Now you still can play but they have made it so hard that the casual players ($$$$$) have all but dried up greatly reducing the profitability on regulars.  In poker people of equal skill lose money in the long run playing against each other (it all goes to the house slowly).

So have they "shutdown" online poker in the US.  Well technically no.  I still have accounts on a handful of sites.  I can still get money into them by sending $1000 by western union to a random person in vietnam who hand carries it to an affiliate who then drops notifies the poker site who updates my balance. 

Have they "effectively" shutdown online poker in the US ... Yes.

So how could they "effectively shutdown Bitcoin" in the US?
1) Prohibit bank transfers to bitcoin exchanges (including Dwolla).
2) Require ISP to use deep packet inspection and drop Bitcoin packets.
3) Require ISP to report users running Bitcoin and send users a letter about said reporting.
4) Hold larger enterprises responsible for Bitcoin traffic (schools, companies, ISP, webhosting providers)
5) Actively engage in reporting and disruption activities (imagine casual user getting letter from FBI asking them to explain why their IP was relaying terrorist funds)

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